feeling panicky

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I just had a not-so-pleasant realization today. I was reading the

Intuitive Eating book and Overcoming Overeating book. I realized that

I have not been able to completely give up my diet mentality at all.

I am " legalizing " foods carefully and with the awareness of how much

I'm eating and what I'm eating. I still have a lot of " bad "

food " good " food thoughts/lists in my head. I'm gaining weight,and

I'm terrified of that. The fear of weight gain is keeping me from

fully letting go of the diet mentality. I'm bingeing again - not

nearly so much, but still.

I'm still going to OA meetings - not many people there know what I'm

attempting to do with Intuitive Eating. I still sponsor people!! I

feel like a complete hypocrite when I tell my sponsees to " stick to

their food plan " . OMG.

I have lost 30-35 lbs w/OA. I'm realizing how difficult it is for me

to give up the diet mentality and risk gaining weight because of my

recent weight loss. Wow, the fear of weight gain is SO entrenched in

my head. I'm scared people in OA will notice the bit of weight I've

put on (I don't weigh myself, so I don't know exactly how much it

is).

I'm really feeling freaked out and terrified. Of course, I'm

thinking " I just need to lose the few pounds I've put on, then start

again " . OMG - crazy!!! I KNOW diets don't work!!

[Guest guest]

Hang in there. With my first attempt at IE, I realized that I gained alot of weight and started dieting. And without fail, the diet failed and I was back to binging. Just keep reminding yourself that diets don't work. Think about where dieting has landed you and how it isn't a place you want to be.

Hi everyone,I just had a not-so-pleasant realization today. I was reading the Intuitive Eating book and Overcoming Overeating book. I realized that I have not been able to completely give up my diet mentality at all.

I am " legalizing " foods carefully and with the awareness of how much I'm eating and what I'm eating. I still have a lot of " bad " food " good " food thoughts/lists in my head. I'm gaining weight,and

I'm terrified of that. The fear of weight gain is keeping me from fully letting go of the diet mentality. I'm bingeing again - not nearly so much, but still.I'm still going to OA meetings - not many people there know what I'm

attempting to do with Intuitive Eating. I still sponsor people!! I feel like a complete hypocrite when I tell my sponsees to " stick to their food plan " . OMG. I have lost 30-35 lbs w/OA. I'm realizing how difficult it is for me

to give up the diet mentality and risk gaining weight because of my recent weight loss. Wow, the fear of weight gain is SO entrenched in my head. I'm scared people in OA will notice the bit of weight I've

put on (I don't weigh myself, so I don't know exactly how much it is). I'm really feeling freaked out and terrified. Of course, I'm thinking " I just need to lose the few pounds I've put on, then start

again " . OMG - crazy!!! I KNOW diets don't work!! -- ~c~

[Guest guest]

Hang in there, Kim - I am an ex-OA'r too. It must be extra hard to

be sponsoring people! I finally left because I was not getting what

I needed out of the program, all I could hear were the punitive

aspects and how deeply into black-n-white thinking most people were

there.

I now attend an eating disorder support group once a week and find

that the support there is much, much better with more body-positive

messages and ways to cope. There is a better way!

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just had a not-so-pleasant realization today. I was reading the

> Intuitive Eating book and Overcoming Overeating book. I realized

that

> I have not been able to completely give up my diet mentality at

all.

> I am " legalizing " foods carefully and with the awareness of how

much

> I'm eating and what I'm eating. I still have a lot of " bad "

> food " good " food thoughts/lists in my head. I'm gaining weight,and

> I'm terrified of that. The fear of weight gain is keeping me from

> fully letting go of the diet mentality. I'm bingeing again - not

> nearly so much, but still.

>

> I'm still going to OA meetings - not many people there know what

I'm

> attempting to do with Intuitive Eating. I still sponsor people!! I

> feel like a complete hypocrite when I tell my sponsees to " stick to

> their food plan " . OMG.

>

> I have lost 30-35 lbs w/OA. I'm realizing how difficult it is for

me

> to give up the diet mentality and risk gaining weight because of my

> recent weight loss. Wow, the fear of weight gain is SO entrenched

in

> my head. I'm scared people in OA will notice the bit of weight

I've

> put on (I don't weigh myself, so I don't know exactly how much it

> is).

>

> I'm really feeling freaked out and terrified. Of course, I'm

> thinking " I just need to lose the few pounds I've put on, then

start

> again " . OMG - crazy!!! I KNOW diets don't work!!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

I have never been a to an OA meeting, but I have been a member of

another 12-step gtoup for 18 years. I have thought about checking out

OA since becoming an IE'r. I just thought the two would be very

compatible. I understand some people not wanting to be around

dieters all the time, but I don't think that would bother me. I'm

around dieters all the time anyways and it's okay with me. Please

see my comments below.

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just had a not-so-pleasant realization today. I was reading the

> Intuitive Eating book and Overcoming Overeating book. I realized

that

> I have not been able to completely give up my diet mentality at

all.

> I am " legalizing " foods carefully and with the awareness of how

much

> I'm eating and what I'm eating. I still have a lot of " bad "

> food " good " food thoughts/lists in my head. I'm gaining weight,and

> I'm terrified of that. The fear of weight gain is keeping me from

> fully letting go of the diet mentality. I'm bingeing again - not

> nearly so much, but still.

>

> I'm still going to OA meetings - not many people there know what

I'm

> attempting to do with Intuitive Eating. I still sponsor people!! I

> feel like a complete hypocrite when I tell my sponsees to " stick to

> their food plan " . OMG.

I don't really understand the conflict here. If you have done the

steps then you should be able to help others do the same. Correct me

if I'm wrong, but I don't think OA dictates what your food plan

should be, so why can't you choose IE as your food plan? It is a

plan, it is good, sensible advice on a way to eat. I still support

other people (including my wife) in their choices to diet. I feel it

would be very arrogant for me to expect everyone to do what I do. I

don't think there is anything hypocritical about it. I think it has

more to do with having respect for other people. (more comments below)

>

> I have lost 30-35 lbs w/OA. I'm realizing how difficult it is for

me

> to give up the diet mentality and risk gaining weight because of my

> recent weight loss. Wow, the fear of weight gain is SO entrenched

in

> my head. I'm scared people in OA will notice the bit of weight

I've

> put on (I don't weigh myself, so I don't know exactly how much it

> is).

>

> I'm really feeling freaked out and terrified. Of course, I'm

> thinking " I just need to lose the few pounds I've put on, then

>start

> again " . OMG - crazy!!! I KNOW diets don't work!!

This I really understand. I started IE when I was down 20 lbs on a

diet and have been periodically freaked out that I'm gaining it back.

But really I think I have stayed close to the same. I gain a few,

lose a few, but I'm working on not making that a measuring stick of

my success. My success on IE is better measured by how many periods

of calm out-weigh, the periods of panick. And that is getting better.

Arnie

IEing since August 2008

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Arnie - your comments really helped

Kim

IE since Aug 08

Subject: Re: feeling panickyTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 1:11 PM

Hi Kim,I have never been a to an OA meeting, but I have been a member of another 12-step gtoup for 18 years. I have thought about checking out OA since becoming an IE'r. I just thought the two would be very compatible. I understand some people not wanting to be around dieters all the time, but I don't think that would bother me. I'm around dieters all the time anyways and it's okay with me. Please see my comments below. >> Hi everyone,> > I just had a not-so-pleasant realization today. I was reading the > Intuitive Eating book and Overcoming Overeating book. I realized that > I have not been able to completely give up my diet mentality at all. > I am "legalizing" foods

carefully and with the awareness of how much > I'm eating and what I'm eating. I still have a lot of "bad" > food "good" food thoughts/lists in my head. I'm gaining weight,and > I'm terrified of that. The fear of weight gain is keeping me from > fully letting go of the diet mentality. I'm bingeing again - not > nearly so much, but still.> > I'm still going to OA meetings - not many people there know what I'm > attempting to do with Intuitive Eating. I still sponsor people!! I > feel like a complete hypocrite when I tell my sponsees to "stick to > their food plan". OMG. I don't really understand the conflict here. If you have done the steps then you should be able to help others do the same. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think OA dictates what your food plan should be, so why can't you choose IE as your food plan? It is a plan, it is good,

sensible advice on a way to eat. I still support other people (including my wife) in their choices to diet. I feel it would be very arrogant for me to expect everyone to do what I do. I don't think there is anything hypocritical about it. I think it has more to do with having respect for other people. (more comments below)> > I have lost 30-35 lbs w/OA. I'm realizing how difficult it is for me > to give up the diet mentality and risk gaining weight because of my > recent weight loss. Wow, the fear of weight gain is SO entrenched in > my head. I'm scared people in OA will notice the bit of weight I've > put on (I don't weigh myself, so I don't know exactly how much it > is). > > I'm really feeling freaked out and terrified. Of course, I'm > thinking "I just need to lose the few pounds I've put on, then >start > again". OMG - crazy!!! I KNOW

diets don't work!!This I really understand. I started IE when I was down 20 lbs on a diet and have been periodically freaked out that I'm gaining it back. But really I think I have stayed close to the same. I gain a few, lose a few, but I'm working on not making that a measuring stick of my success. My success on IE is better measured by how many periods of calm out-weigh, the periods of panick. And that is getting better.ArnieIEing since August 2008

[Guest guest]

I've been questioning myself too. The first few weeks on IE I was confident in my decision. But this week I noticed I was flipping over the package to check for calories. And then I started feeling fat and looking at myself unforgivingly in the mirror. I almost put the batteries back in the scale to see if I have gained weight. But you are right, Christie. Going down this path is just going to lead me back to dieting and binging again. What a vicious cycle dieting is. I hate dieting~it is a Liar. It promises me the world and gives me less than nothing in return. It doesn't make me weigh less, it makes me less of a person. IE is my answer to finding myself and filling in the holes that dieting has created. Thank you both for reminding me of that!

Bonnie

To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:55:25 PMSubject: Re: feeling panicky

Hang in there. With my first attempt at IE, I realized that I gained alot of weight and started dieting. And without fail, the diet failed and I was back to binging. Just keep reminding yourself that diets don't work. Think about where dieting has landed you and how it isn't a place you want to be.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM, kimhill38 <kimhill38yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi everyone,I just had a not-so-pleasant realization today. I was reading the Intuitive Eating book and Overcoming Overeating book. I realized that I have not been able to completely give up my diet mentality at all. I am "legalizing" foods carefully and with the awareness of how much I'm eating and what I'm eating. I still have a lot of "bad" food "good" food thoughts/lists in my head. I'm gaining weight,and I'm terrified of that. The fear of weight gain is keeping me from fully letting go of the diet mentality. I'm bingeing again - not nearly so much, but still.I'm still going to OA meetings - not many people there know what I'm attempting to do with Intuitive Eating. I still sponsor people!! I feel like a complete hypocrite when I tell my sponsees to "stick to their food plan". OMG. I have lost 30-35 lbs w/OA. I'm realizing how difficult it is for me to give up the diet

mentality and risk gaining weight because of my recent weight loss. Wow, the fear of weight gain is SO entrenched in my head. I'm scared people in OA will notice the bit of weight I've put on (I don't weigh myself, so I don't know exactly how much it is). I'm really feeling freaked out and terrified. Of course, I'm thinking "I just need to lose the few pounds I've put on, then start again". OMG - crazy!!! I KNOW diets don't work!! -- ~c~