Weight Gain

[Guest guest]

I don't recall experiencing any weight change until I started the tx, then it went down, down, down... -dz-rick <r_martin85@...> wrote:

Ok, I have a question. Let me start from the beginning. Before I was dx, i wasn't feeling well, thought i had the flu or a virus. Then I started retaining fluid. I ended up in the hospital. After running tests, ultra sound, ct scan i was dx with hep c. While in the hospital my weight dropped from 170 to 140. After I got home and started feeling better i started gaining my weight back, but thus far have not stopped. I now weigh approximately 215. Has anyone else gained weight after being dx? thanks Rick

[Guest guest]

Hi Rick,

Since you were dx with hep c have you been taking antidepressants?

The reason I ask is because some antidepressants can cause you to

gain weight. My doctor has been trying me out on a few and none of

them agree with me, but when I asked about Paxil he said I would kill

him if he put me on Paxil because it makes you hungry and gain

weight.

So anyway, if you started taking antidepressants after your dx, that

could be the reason for the weight gain.

Chris

> Ok, I have a question. Let me start from the beginning. Before I

> was dx, i wasn't feeling well, thought i had the flu or a virus.

> Then I started retaining fluid. I ended up in the hospital. After

> running tests, ultra sound, ct scan i was dx with hep c. While in

> the hospital my weight dropped from 170 to 140. After I got home

> and started feeling better i started gaining my weight back, but

> thus far have not stopped. I now weigh approximately 215. Has

> anyone else gained weight after being dx? thanks Rick

[Guest guest]

-Thanks and yes i am on paxil. when i was last at dr. i asked

if it was fluid he said no all you lol. thanks Rick

-- In , " "

<chrissea10@h...> wrote:

> Hi Rick,

> Since you were dx with hep c have you been taking

antidepressants?

> The reason I ask is because some antidepressants can cause you to

> gain weight. My doctor has been trying me out on a few and none

of

> them agree with me, but when I asked about Paxil he said I would

kill

> him if he put me on Paxil because it makes you hungry and gain

> weight.

> So anyway, if you started taking antidepressants after your dx,

that

> could be the reason for the weight gain.

> Chris

>

>

>

> > Ok, I have a question. Let me start from the beginning. Before

I

> > was dx, i wasn't feeling well, thought i had the flu or a

virus.

> > Then I started retaining fluid. I ended up in the hospital.

After

> > running tests, ultra sound, ct scan i was dx with hep c. While

in

> > the hospital my weight dropped from 170 to 140. After I got

home

> > and started feeling better i started gaining my weight back, but

> > thus far have not stopped. I now weigh approximately 215. Has

> > anyone else gained weight after being dx? thanks Rick

[Guest guest]

Hey Rick,

I remember gaining a few pounds when I tried Paxil as well.I'm taking

Effexor XR now and have found a big differance in my appetite.TAM---

In , " rick " <r_martin85@y...>

wrote:

> -Thanks and yes i am on paxil. when i was last at dr. i

asked

> if it was fluid he said no all you lol. thanks Rick

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In , " "

> <chrissea10@h...> wrote:

> > Hi Rick,

> > Since you were dx with hep c have you been taking

> antidepressants?

> > The reason I ask is because some antidepressants can cause you to

> > gain weight. My doctor has been trying me out on a few and none

> of

> > them agree with me, but when I asked about Paxil he said I would

> kill

> > him if he put me on Paxil because it makes you hungry and gain

> > weight.

> > So anyway, if you started taking antidepressants after your dx,

> that

> > could be the reason for the weight gain.

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > > Ok, I have a question. Let me start from the beginning.

Before

> I

> > > was dx, i wasn't feeling well, thought i had the flu or a

> virus.

> > > Then I started retaining fluid. I ended up in the hospital.

> After

> > > running tests, ultra sound, ct scan i was dx with hep c. While

> in

> > > the hospital my weight dropped from 170 to 140. After I got

> home

> > > and started feeling better i started gaining my weight back,

but

> > > thus far have not stopped. I now weigh approximately 215. Has

> > > anyone else gained weight after being dx? thanks Rick

[Guest guest]

-Tammie thanks i may have to ask dr. about something else to take.

Rick

-- In , " Tammie "

<beachbrat5@y...> wrote:

> Hey Rick,

> I remember gaining a few pounds when I tried Paxil as well.I'm

taking

> Effexor XR now and have found a big differance in my appetite.TAM--

-

> In , " rick " <r_martin85@y...>

> wrote:

> > -Thanks and yes i am on paxil. when i was last at dr. i

> asked

> > if it was fluid he said no all you lol. thanks Rick

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- In , " "

> > <chrissea10@h...> wrote:

> > > Hi Rick,

> > > Since you were dx with hep c have you been taking

> > antidepressants?

> > > The reason I ask is because some antidepressants can cause you

to

> > > gain weight. My doctor has been trying me out on a few and

none

> > of

> > > them agree with me, but when I asked about Paxil he said I

would

> > kill

> > > him if he put me on Paxil because it makes you hungry and gain

> > > weight.

> > > So anyway, if you started taking antidepressants after your

dx,

> > that

> > > could be the reason for the weight gain.

> > > Chris

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Ok, I have a question. Let me start from the beginning.

> Before

> > I

> > > > was dx, i wasn't feeling well, thought i had the flu or a

> > virus.

> > > > Then I started retaining fluid. I ended up in the

hospital.

> > After

> > > > running tests, ultra sound, ct scan i was dx with hep c.

While

> > in

> > > > the hospital my weight dropped from 170 to 140. After I got

> > home

> > > > and started feeling better i started gaining my weight back,

> but

> > > > thus far have not stopped. I now weigh approximately 215.

Has

> > > > anyone else gained weight after being dx? thanks Rick

[Guest guest]

Angie, that is some of the wonderful effects of Prednisone. I was on

the med, and weaned myself off it. It caused me terible headaches,

insomnia, and weight gain.

Some benefit a great deal from the drug. I just didn't won't all

those side effects. How much Prednisone are you on? Tawny

>

> Has any one else had any wieght gain while they were on medicine.

I

> heard the predisone can do it Is it true in the last 6 weeks I

> have gained weight and haven't been eating a whole lot just don't

> feel like it too tired to eat that much If anyone else has

> experienced this please let me know as I would love to know that

the

> meds can do this and what to do about it

> Thank you for any advice also anyone have secrets on sleeping I am

> so tired but I go to bed and can't sleep My feet and legs hurt and

> cramp so much while I am in bed

> Thanks

> Angie

[Guest guest]

I must be the odd one here. I have been on 5mg/day of Prednisone for 3 years and

I weigh less now than when I first started taking it. My biggest side affect is

my skin is like tissue paper and every little bump either bleeds or ends up with

massive bruising. As much as I would like to be off it, it does help me.

Hugs

June

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[Guest guest]

I managed to not gain weight while on prednisone by eating as few carbs

as I could manage. I have diabetes and was already limiting carbs, but

had to limit them even more. The prednisone seemed to know when I ate

carbs, LOL, and my blood glucose would go up more than usual. So

limiting the white carbs (potatoes, bread, pasta, etc.) might be worth

a try.

As far as sleep goes, I also have insomnia. Many nights I'm still lying

there awake at three o'clock. If you discover the secret, let me know,

too.

Sue

On Thursday, January 13, 2005, at 05:34 AM, along302003 wrote:

>

> Has any one else had any wieght gain while they were on medicine. I

> heard the predisone can do it Is it true in the last 6 weeks I

> have gained weight and haven't been eating a whole lot just don't

> feel like it too tired to eat that much If anyone else has

> experienced this please let me know as I would love to know that the

> meds can do this and what to do about it

> Thank you for any advice also anyone have secrets on sleeping I am

> so tired but I go to bed and can't sleep My feet and legs hurt and

> cramp so much while I am in bed

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all who replied I have been on the predisione now for

about 7 months never had a problem till the last time and I don't

eat much at all everyone always complains are you not eating more

I wish I could go off it but as I am still having a lot of pain and

inflamation and I don't think it will happen

Thanks

Angie

>

> Has any one else had any wieght gain while they were on medicine.

I

> heard the predisone can do it Is it true in the last 6 weeks I

> have gained weight and haven't been eating a whole lot just don't

> feel like it too tired to eat that much If anyone else has

> experienced this please let me know as I would love to know that

the

> meds can do this and what to do about it

> Thank you for any advice also anyone have secrets on sleeping I

am

> so tired but I go to bed and can't sleep My feet and legs hurt

and

> cramp so much while I am in bed

> Thanks

> Angie

[Guest guest]

Hi and Debra,

This was brought up before, and I have found it easier to pack on the

pounds since beginning Enbrel, also. However, I firmly believe that

it is the result of my being able to sleep more soundly, and because I

have much less pain (whether sleeping or not). Less pain results in

less adrenal gland action - which leads to lower heart-rate, slower

respiration, and better digestion. Less pain also leads to clearer

thinking which means less frustration and a generally improved

emotional state. All of these things mean that my body is operating

more efficiently and; therefore, requires less energy. So, for me, I

need fewer calories, even though I am able to do more things. I have

to eat less with Enbrel, but I don't blame the Enbrel - I look at it

as a benefit.

P.S. I've been to Poulsbo a few times, and found it very nice - even

with the 10,000 RVs.

> This is in response to Debra's question about weight gain. I have

certainly packed on the pounds...and then some!! I do not take

Methotrexate, but have been on Enbrel for several years now. I eat

too much, always have, but this weight gain is not just from that, I

am sure. No one has ever said Enbrel made you gain weight, but I sure

think so! in Poulsbo,Wa.

>

> From: " Debra " <lildebfin@a...>

> Subject: Weight Gain

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:19:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lbschroeder@... writes:

No one has ever said Enbrel made you gain weight, but I sure think so!

in Poulsbo,Wa.

Hey , I have found the same

[Guest guest]

Why is it that every doggone med they put us on makes us gain weight?

Or, it seems that way. I take several meds for PA, Diabetes and HBP

and since beginning them have gained weight! I need to lose

weight...not gain!

Sharon Hanna

>

>

> In a message dated 12/16/2005 7:19:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> lbschroeder@e... writes:

>

> No one has ever said Enbrel made you gain weight, but I sure think

so!

> in Poulsbo,Wa.

>

>

>

>

> Hey , I have found the same

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Few seem to realise the increased metabolic demands on the body imposed by a

hyperproliferative or degenerative disease. If you have psoriasis on 50% of

your body surface area then your body might be making as many skin cells as 4

normal people. The tearing down and rebuilding of tissue that takes place

in degenerative arthritis such as RA or PA can also consume a lot of calories,

vitamins and minerals.

Also with increased bloodflow close to the surface, as may be evidenced by

redness and swelling, you will loose more body heat which must be made up for

by burning calories which is of particular importance this time of year.

So if you significantly reduce the symptoms of P and/or PA you can expect to

reduce caloric intake or gain weight. Orin

In a message dated 12/18/2005 7:37:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,

hanna1946@... writes:

Why is it that every doggone med they put us on makes us gain weight?

Or, it seems that way. I take several meds for PA, Diabetes and HBP

and since beginning them have gained weight! I need to lose

weight...not gain!

Sharon Hanna

[Guest guest]

Hi Orin,

Does that mean that I can be in pain, but be thin and look great!!

Only kidding of course, But I remind myself every time I moan about

hating to go to the gym and sweat, that I am very lucky that I'm able

to and it wasn't all that long ago I couldn't.

Stay Well,

[Guest guest]

- your humor is not far off the mark. Although I was only

diagnosed this summer, the flare started in the spring slowly, and I

lost 20 lbs over the next 3 months. Once I was on Plaquenil 5 weeks my

apetite started coming back with a vengence. However even eating more

I've barely gained 5 lbs back. What Orin mentioned is right on - I

fully expect when I have very good pain control that the weight will

start going up again and I'll have to start watching what I eat more.

-

>

> Hi Orin,

> Does that mean that I can be in pain, but be thin and look great!!

>

> Only kidding of course, But I remind myself every time I moan about

> hating to go to the gym and sweat, that I am very lucky that I'm able

> to and it wasn't all that long ago I couldn't.

>

>

> Stay Well,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Orin, I had not thought of it that way....food for thought! I have

good pain control right now and I was overweight before I was

diagnosed...though the PA had been coming on for years before that

and no one could diagnose me. I never ever lose my appetite..even

when I have a stomach virus I still have an appetite! I am trying

to cut way back on eating and watching what types of foods I eat

because my blood sugar is out of control right now and hopefully I

will lose some weight. I was put on Avandamet for the diabetes and

have seen over on the diabetes forum that most people or a lot of

them anyway lose weight on that drug. Guess I will find out! It

gives me diarrhea though!

Sharon>

>

> Few seem to realise the increased metabolic demands on the body

imposed by a

> hyperproliferative or degenerative disease. If you have psoriasis

on 50% of

> your body surface area then your body might be making as many skin

cells as 4

> normal people. The tearing down and rebuilding of tissue that

takes place

> in degenerative arthritis such as RA or PA can also consume a lot

of calories,

> vitamins and minerals.

> Also with increased bloodflow close to the surface, as may be

evidenced by

> redness and swelling, you will loose more body heat which must be

made up for

> by burning calories which is of particular importance this time

of year.

> So if you significantly reduce the symptoms of P and/or PA you

can expect to

> reduce caloric intake or gain weight. Orin

>

> In a message dated 12/18/2005 7:37:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> hanna1946@y... writes:

>

> Why is it that every doggone med they put us on makes us gain

weight?

> Or, it seems that way. I take several meds for PA, Diabetes and

HBP

> and since beginning them have gained weight! I need to lose

> weight...not gain!

>

> Sharon Hanna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You just won't be able to lose weight without T3. Get it as soon as you

can. Dr. Lowe is very good, especially about fibromyalgia. Ignore the

bad docs and look for a good one. I posted some websites previously.

Gracia

> hello to all,

>

> I have been dealing with hypothyroidism for over 20yrs. Lately I have put

> on over 25lbs. in

> a short time. I am telling my endocrinologist I think I am not converting

> T4 into T3. My

> levels for T3 total are 85 (normals are 80 to 200) and my free t3 was 2.8

> (normal are 2.3

> to4.2) She is reluctant to use t3.

>

> Has anyone used t3 and found their weight gain subside? I have heard it

> is important to

> use the right amount of t3 along with t4. How do I know what is the right

> amount.

>

> Does anyone know anything about a Dr. C. Lowe, he has done much

> research etc

> regarding hypothyroidism and fibromyalgia. He is located in Boulder Co.

> In going to his

> website, I feel he may be able to help me. But I would like some feedback

> from someone

> who knows more about him and his practice.

>

> Hope to hear from you soon!

> Venizia1948

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've had similar issues. I've also had a recent round of antibiotics

and it has totally annihilated me. I've never been so exhausted and

unwell. I am fighting candida worse than ever now, it's a battle

bigtime.

The weight loss side of it, is probably long term loss of appetite and

the stomach shrinks and then you just cannot sustain an appetite from

then on, plus not absorbing nutrients due to yeast overgrowth robbing

you of need nutrition to gain normal weight and a healthy appetite.

The only thing I could do really was eat things like meat (with the fat

on), eggs, and using fats like butter, olive oil, coconut oil and being

pretty darned liberal with it all. And of course having vegets too,

but mainly I would make sure I was having heaps of protein and fats.

I'm still slender, but it's the only way to keep anything on me at

all. Thinking I'll put on weight if I go and eat sugars etc, it should

occur (because it used to occur when I had toruble LOSING weight) but

not it's the oppsosite. I cheat now and I end up losing more in the

long run.

If you keep on the candida diet and eats these good fats and proteins

etc, and stay off the sugars, yeasts, gluten grains, fruits, milk etc,

your body can begin to absorb more nutrients and you can start to heal

and gain some weight and a more healthy appetite. Just as someone who

is overweight can begin to lose weight for the same reasons.

> i recently encountered candida overgrowth due to over use of

> antibiotics. I also loss a lot a weight(due to die off symptoms/not

> eating due to feeling really sick)... now i am underweight and in

> desperate need to gain weight.. I am 5'8 and weigh 114 llbs. please

> help? What can I do? Help?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there, the idea of consuming any of those things (ice cream,

chocolate etc) is disastrous for anybody suffering with yeast

overgrowth (especially after a round of antibiotics).

Thsi person who has been made ill after them, has lost wight and their

appetite, will continue to spiral down if they do not address the

overgrown yeast from the antibiotics. The same thing has happened to

me. Any sugar eating tips me over the edge to the point I am extremely

ill for a long time after it (week or more). If anything, I end up

having to start from scratch, end up losing even more weight, and can

hardly function. A person has got to keep the diet and battle the die

off out so they can get on top of the yeast.

Which will allow them to eventually heal and absorb nutrietns, then the

weight will go back on. it will not go back on by eating ice cream,

chocolate etc, they will worsen their existing condition and remain ill

and never get on top of the what the antibiotics have caused.

Don't take offense, I'm just responding because a recent round of

antibiotics has just about finished me and sugar is a total disaster to

me now.

> You can get some weight supplements at the gmc store. They wil help

> you gain weight. Also a favorite of mine is to eat and go lay down

> right after. Eat Hot water corn bread with greens and lay down. Ice

> cream and chocolate helps too.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Do not be concerned about such messages. Obviously the person joined

to cause trouble, so I have banned them.

Cheers, Bee

>

> Hi there, the idea of consuming any of those things (ice cream,

> chocolate etc) is disastrous for anybody suffering with yeast

> overgrowth (especially after a round of antibiotics).

[Guest guest]

>

> i recently encountered candida overgrowth due to over use of

> antibiotics. I also loss a lot a weight(due to die off symptoms/not

> eating due to feeling really sick)... now i am underweight and in

> desperate need to gain weight.. I am 5'8 and weigh 114 llbs. please

> help? What can I do? Help?

==>Hi there. What is your name please? Welcome to our group my friend.

==>When your body is riddled with candida weight is the least of your

problems, and it will normalize as you progress on my candida program.

First concentrate on getting the nutrients your body needs. I

recommend you start with Bee's Raw Egg Drink - see our Recipe Folder

(in the files on the left menu) under Drinks & Teas. It is important

that you read my main article which was sent to you when you

joined " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " - it is also in our Files

in the 1st folder. Also see the other article in that Folder " Candida,

How to Get Started " .

==>At one point during my candida program I was losing 3 lbs per day.

A man could wrap his fingers around my thigh. But I persisted on the

program and my weight normalized to where it should be. You cannot

increase your weight effectively until you get rid of the candida

overgrowth because any foods that put on weight also feed the candida.

We are here to help and support your, so please read the article

thoroughly first and then get back to us.

The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

I thank you that truly helps.. It is such a relief to hear this.. I

will continue to eat the healthly fats.. I want to get stronger and

healthier not worse.. I have now burning, tingling, aches, pain,

fatigue, nausea, dizziness, off balance. Do you do any special

exercises to help?

>

> I've had similar issues. I've also had a recent round of

antibiotics

> and it has totally annihilated me. I've never been so exhausted

and

> unwell. I am fighting candida worse than ever now, it's a battle

> bigtime.

> The weight loss side of it, is probably long term loss of appetite

and

> the stomach shrinks and then you just cannot sustain an appetite

from

> then on, plus not absorbing nutrients due to yeast overgrowth

robbing

> you of need nutrition to gain normal weight and a healthy

appetite.

> The only thing I could do really was eat things like meat (with

the fat

> on), eggs, and using fats like butter, olive oil, coconut oil and

being

> pretty darned liberal with it all. And of course having vegets

too,

> but mainly I would make sure I was having heaps of protein and

fats.

>

> I'm still slender, but it's the only way to keep anything on me at

> all. Thinking I'll put on weight if I go and eat sugars etc, it

should

> occur (because it used to occur when I had toruble LOSING weight)

but

> not it's the oppsosite. I cheat now and I end up losing more in

the

> long run.

>

> If you keep on the candida diet and eats these good fats and

proteins

> etc, and stay off the sugars, yeasts, gluten grains, fruits, milk

etc,

> your body can begin to absorb more nutrients and you can start to

heal

> and gain some weight and a more healthy appetite. Just as someone

who

> is overweight can begin to lose weight for the same reasons.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > i recently encountered candida overgrowth due to over use of

> > antibiotics. I also loss a lot a weight(due to die off

symptoms/not

> > eating due to feeling really sick)... now i am underweight and

in

> > desperate need to gain weight.. I am 5'8 and weigh 114 llbs.

please

> > help? What can I do? Help?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there, you're welcome. I reckon the diet alone is the key thing

to work out. EVerything else to my mind is secondary. I have found

this out more and more as time has gone on.

With this recent round of antibiotics, I just have no words really

for what it's done and i was only on them for one week. Not a lot I

can do but get back on track with the diet and make sure I simply

don't cheat. Cheating is a disaster for me.

I have to be moderate with exercise, because I have a permanent

condition that causes me to get very ill from exercise and I suffer

for a long time after it. The most I manage is walking on a

treadmill (not using an incline, I'm too sick for htat, wish I could,

it's extremely beneficial), and walking moderately for about 20

minutes or so. Half an hour is good, but I'm too ill right now to do

that.

Aside from that? If I'm able to, I try and do some basic muscle

strengthening exercises for my arms, stomach and backside. Nothing

too much, just a little. I don't use weights, I just do them from a

dressing table and the floor, using my own body really.

That's all I do. Sometimes I use a rebounder too. They are great to

use, but I have to watch myself at the moment, I am just exhausted.

Bee has everything listed on her links and files that will help you

with the diet and also what supplements you can take too to aid you

and many other issues. I would not use antifungals at this stage.

For me I don't want to use them at all, but may have to sometime.

They can release too many toxins at once from yeast and make a person

very sick. Best to use diet until you are stronger. Just my opinion.

The symptoms you're getting sound a lot like die off to me. It's not

nice, but if you can stick with the programme, you should start to

notice improvements down the track. You can also take hot baths and

use epsom salts (this can help sweat and help with toxins via the

pores of the skin).

I also just take thing slike vitamin C, vitamin E, zinc, magesium,

purified fish oil and basically the diet and the exercise and that's

it. I can only hope I will improve, I never want to take antibiotics

again. I bet you feel the same way.

>

I thank you that truly helps.. It is such a relief to hear this.. I

> will continue to eat the healthly fats.. I want to get stronger and

> healthier not worse.. I have now burning, tingling, aches, pain,

> fatigue, nausea, dizziness, off balance. Do you do any special

> exercises to help?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee, I wasn't sure at first. I was surprised there was somone on a

candida support group touting ice cream and chocolate to someone and I

thought they were new and didn't know what this was all about, or doing

it deliberately. My intial message was a lot worse than my edited

one Thanks by the way.

>

>

Hi ,

> Do not be concerned about such messages. Obviously the person joined

> to cause trouble, so I have banned them.

> Cheers, Bee

>

>

> >

> > Hi there, the idea of consuming any of those things (ice cream,

> > chocolate etc) is disastrous for anybody suffering with yeast

> > overgrowth (especially after a round of antibiotics).

>

[Guest guest]

>

> HI Bee,

> I'm noticing that I'm gaining abit of weight especially on the tops

of my legs.I'm following the protocol perfectly and the only thing that

i can see that might be an issue is that i am eating goats butter which

> has 1%salt in it. Do you think that might make me retain water?

==>Are you gaining weight in your legs, or is it water retention?

> I don't mind putting on a bit of weight but I don't really want to

put on anymore. My issue as a raw foodist was similair as soon as i

increased the fats in my diet.. any insights would be helpful.

==>Some people do put on weight eating high amounts of butter,

particularly when it is pasteurized. Coconut oil does not cause anyone

to put on weight however. You should be having a good balance of fats -

butter, coconut oil, lard, etc. - they each provide different health

benefits. Also it is important you are taking cod liver oil for omega

3, and vitamins A & D, as well as vitamin E - all of the fats and oil

vitamins work together so leaving any out of the diet can caused

imbalances. And elimination of bad fats and oils is equally important.

Bee