Interesting Discovery from the folks at Enbrel re: H1N1

[Guest guest]

I just got off the phone with the Enbrel Support Team, one of their RN's, they

give 24/7 phone support. They say:

They have yet to have any research with the H1N1 Vaccine, plus they say we

cannot take live vaccines. H1N1 Vaccine is live (even if attenuated, it still

has live virus in it), plus this is from their website:

All vaccines should be brought up-to-date before starting ENBREL. Patients

taking ENBREL should not receive live vaccines.

and third:

http://www.infowars.com/swine-flu-vaccines-contain-live-h1n1-virus/

Now, I am not one to tell anyone what to do, but I am not a SHEEPLE that can be

led blindly to take something that is not researched, being forced down my

throat, and third a law was passed saying that the State Legislators, nor the

drug companies can be held liable for the effects of the H1N1 vaccine, that

really makes me suspect. I dont know about anyone else, but I will rebel and

fight against taking it.

There is NO research, according to Enbrel with the H1N1 Vaccine and its reaction

to the drug.

I think those of us that take Enbrel have enuf to worry about with the drug

itself.

OKD

[Guest guest]

OKD,

Both inactivated (killed) and attenuated (live but weakened) versions

of the H1N1 vaccine will be available.

WHO (Sep 2009):

Q: How many different vaccine candidates will be available for A (H1N1)?

A: About 30. Most will be inactivated virus vaccines made in eggs,

some will be killed virus vaccines made in cell cultures and a few

will be live attenuated virus vaccines. Then you have a lot of

variation in the way vaccine is purified and in whether or not it is

mixed with an additive, called an adjuvant, which is a booster of

immunogenicity (which is the capacity of a vaccine to evoke an immune

response) and which is used with killed virus vaccine. All vaccines

create antibodies to fight the virus; some will produce a local

response, such as attenuated vaccine administered in the nose to give

more immunity at the port of entry of the virus. The industry will use

tiered pricing, so high-income countries might pay between US$ 10–20

per dose, middle-income countries may pay about half that and

low-income half that price again. These are ballpark figures but this

is the order of magnitude.

http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/87/9/09-030909/en/index.html

Not an MD

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM, OKD <Cofade_2000@...> wrote:

> I just got off the phone with the Enbrel Support Team, one of their RN's, they

give 24/7 phone support.  They say:

>

> They have yet to have any research with the H1N1 Vaccine, plus they say we

cannot take live vaccines.  H1N1 Vaccine is live (even if attenuated, it still

has live virus in it), plus this is from their website:

>

> All vaccines should be brought up-to-date before starting ENBREL. Patients

taking ENBREL should not receive live vaccines.

>

> and third:

>

> http://www.infowars.com/swine-flu-vaccines-contain-live-h1n1-virus/

>

> Now, I am not one to tell anyone what to do, but I am not a SHEEPLE that can

be led blindly to take something that is not researched, being forced down my

throat, and third a law was passed saying that the State Legislators, nor the

drug companies can be held liable for the effects of the H1N1 vaccine, that

really makes me suspect.  I dont know about anyone else, but I will rebel and

fight against taking it.

>

> There is NO research, according to Enbrel with the H1N1 Vaccine and its

reaction to the drug.

>

> I think those of us that take Enbrel have enuf to worry about with the drug

itself.

>

>

> OKD

[Guest guest]

Jolene,

This decision will have to be made by you and your physicians for your

particular situation, but the general recommendation for rheumatology

patients on DMARDs, including the biologics, is that they should

receive the appropriate vaccines and immunizations.

Not an MD

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM, <Jolenefive@...> wrote:

> What about other drugs like methotrexate?

>

> Jolene