lymph nodes

[Guest guest]

Scarey! My gut reaction were I in your situation would be to do a

course of Essiac and to drink red clover blossom tisanes. Herbal is

always my first choice of cure, then vitamin, then stress-control.

(Actually combined, not sequential like it sounded.) After a little

thought (and if fear was enough of a motivation),I'd probably go with

a macrobiotic diet, too. There are so many choices these days, with

folks like Weil giving us across-the-health-spectrum advice.

It's not like we're in the medical dark totally relying on the Family

Doctor for answers. Dr. Google is always there, too. Be positive!

That said, is it possible that the node enlargement is coming from

something other than the cancer? An infection? How is the cause of

the lymph change determined?

Dani

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Well, just got my results from my latest CT scan and there is

changes. The cancer is not stable any more. My lymph nodes in my neck

show more enlargement and increased in numbers. The ones in my lungs

are now enlarged and increased in numbers. Both so far are normal in

appearance though other than enlarged. But this is a change in the

last 3 months.

>

> I am working really hard on sticking with the WAP diet but would

like to hear of some other things I should be doing in this situation.

I am not sure I will go through conventional treatment if there is a

true flare so need info on natural steps to take and who to go and see

too.

>

> Thanks all!

> ~Kimi~

[Guest guest]

Kimi, some suggestions:

Study information available from Jerry Brunetti who used WAP nutrition

information plus other natural protocols to heal himself of cancer (lymphoma)

and check out the website www.healingcancernaturally.com There is a lot of

valuable information there. Also, Body Ecology teaches some important

principles for healing the immune system and related health conditions

www.bodyecology.com. And be positive and don't succumb to fear!!! You can do

it!

God bless you on your healing journey!

Carr

Natural Health Unlimited*Golden Age Cultures

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Lymph nodes

Well, just got my results from my latest CT scan and there is changes. The

cancer is not stable any more. My lymph nodes in my neck show more enlargement

and increased in numbers. The ones in my lungs are now enlarged and increased in

numbers. Both so far are normal in appearance though other than enlarged. But

this is a change in the last 3 months.

I am working really hard on sticking with the WAP diet but would like to hear

of some other things I should be doing in this situation. I am not sure I will

go through conventional treatment if there is a true flare so need info on

natural steps to take and who to go and see too.

Thanks all!

~Kimi~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All things are an opportunity to grow, but some times God needs to use a bit

of manure to fertilize us so we can grow better, stronger and more beautiful. ~

KW~

www.Jremedies.com

2 , 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior

Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

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[Guest guest]

Kimi,

I know this addresses a different condition, but perhaps you could

start at the following page and find some useful resources through it?

http://www.pancreatic.org/site/c.htJYJ8MPIwE/b.891939/k.B029/Holistic_Approach.h\

tm

here is the short version:

http://tinyurl.com/2n642v

He seems to have had some good results using non-allopathic techniques.

HTH,

Genie

[Guest guest]

Kimi,

Sorry to hear about your situation. First, before you do anything else is, you

need to address the reason for your cancer in the first place. Most believe it

is due to toxins. I would start with a total body cleanse. Liver, gallbladder,

kidney etc. You can go to www.naturalcures.com to get some ideas of cleanses or

go to Dr. Schulzes " Incurable " plan. You can find it at www.dr-schulze.com

Good luck and my prayer is with you. Blessing Jane

Re: Lymph nodes

Kimi,

I know this addresses a different condition, but perhaps you could

start at the following page and find some useful resources through it?

http://www.pancreatic.org/site/c.htJYJ8MPIwE/b.891939/k.B029/Holistic_Approach.h\

tm

here is the short version:

http://tinyurl.com/2n642v

He seems to have had some good results using non-allopathic techniques.

HTH,

Genie

[Guest guest]

I've heard some very posotive things about the Gerson therapy. They have clinics

in the US but they have a hospital in Mexico where it is LEGAL to treat cancer

without chemo and radiation. Here is their web address: http://www.gerson.org/

Beth

Lymph nodes

Well, just got my results from my latest CT scan and there is changes. The

cancer is not stable any more. My lymph nodes in my neck show more enlargement

and increased in numbers. The ones in my lungs are now enlarged and increased in

numbers. Both so far are normal in appearance though other than enlarged. But

this is a change in the last 3 months.

I am working really hard on sticking with the WAP diet but would like to hear

of some other things I should be doing in this situation. I am not sure I will

go through conventional treatment if there is a true flare so need info on

natural steps to take and who to go and see too.

Thanks all!

~Kimi~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All things are an opportunity to grow, but some times God needs to use a bit

of manure to fertilize us so we can grow better, stronger and more beautiful. ~

KW~

www.Jremedies.com

2 , 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior

Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kimi,

I would get on the trad food group through WAP. There are international members

there who have loads of good info. There is info in the groups files about

cancer. It is sooo good to talk with people in this group.

I believe you can find it in the webwatch section of WAP. Apply to become a

member, but before you are accepted you can still read past and present posts.

Best to you,

Anne

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[Guest guest]

I have heard (though not tried) a castor oil pack on

painful lymph nodes. I gleaned that from the acor.org

list. You might want to search on the archives there.

Here's another site:

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/dietarytherapy/a/CastorOilPack.htm

It has a seemingly dubious history of 'detoxifying'

and all of that nonsense. However, perhaps the

lingering heat makes a difference, at least in

comfort.

Here are parts of two posts from acor.org. I make no

claims about the positives or minuses of such

treatment.

" To reduce pain and shrink lymph nodes, you should do

the castor oil pack treatment for about one hour

daily. At

first the feeling of relief is wonderful and the warm

packs

are very comfortable. Then after three-four days

somehow

they become uncomfortable as the body seems to want to

reject them. I think that is the time to stop. By then

the

lymph nodes should be soft and on their way out in any

case.

So you can't overdo this treatment!

And:

Castor Oil Packs

The function of the packs is to improve blood and

lymph flow. Applied to the swollen nodes daily, for at

least a week, for sixty minutes each time, it will

relieve pain and soften and shrink the nodes. The

packs should be made up of wool or cotton flannel,

folded four-ply, (old socks are great too), saturated

with cold-pressed castor oil (cloth should not be

dripping).

The oil-saturated flannel is then placed directly on

the skin and covered with a piece of plastic, such as

a plastic bag. Place an old towel over it. Apply heat,

in the form of a hot water bottle or heating pad over

the pack. Recline on the bed or couch, but cover it

well with plastic first to protect it from the oil.

Make this sixty minutes the " quiet time " of the day,

meditate, read something uplifting or listen to music.

After the treatment, you can clean your skin with a

solution of two teaspoons of baking soda dissolved in

one quart of water.You can use the same castor oil

pack for additional applications. It is important to

discard the pack after a certain number of uses or

when it becomes rancid. It may be helpful to store the

pack in a plastic storage container and refrigerate

between uses. Add extra castor oil as needed. The wool

or cotton flannel packs can be used for approximately

25-30 applications before they are to be discarded.

Avoid eating animal fats for the duration of this

treatment, use only olive oil.

The group CLL Alternatives may have something on

the treatment as well. You might check there.

CLL_Alternative_Therapies/?yguid=65296451

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> I am wondering if anyone out there has a solution to

> minimize sore swollen lymph nodes. About every 4

> months, one or two of my lymph nodes will act up and

> get somewhat painful. Does anyone have any

> recommendations to remove the pain?

> Thanks in advance.

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[Guest guest]

a,

Experience with the Lymph Nodes is what I had to learn with .

Her's would pop up and the Dr would give her Antibotics but this did not make

it

go away a lot of the time. Another thing about it is also another place in

which the glands will pop up. On the back of her neck she would have knots on

her neck the Dr checked these as well. Checking a Pattern of the Asthma and

the JA Flares. When her JA would act up these Lymph Nodes would be swollen.

Sometimes just alittle then sometimes big. So watch for this. When I found out

about these knots I would automatically check these areas often. Sometimes they

hurt would say. Another thing I noticed about this was if

had a virus these knots would pop up as well. At times the neck would be to

sore to move. I am not sure if it is always related to JA but with it

was a Pattern. I never knew we had glands in the neck so I learned alot. We

have Lymph nodes in places you would not think about.

Robbin

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[Guest guest]

Robbin. our son (now 32) has had these all his life...that I can remember. He is

very healthy but his lymph glands in his neck are always big and get bigger when

he is sick. He has his own internist now and when he was sick last..the doctor

asked him if he had had his tonsils out. He has had them out when he was little.

The doc said that the lymph nodes collect viral/bacterial infection. That keeps

it from infecting his whole body. I have worried about them for so many years

and the doc along the way told me that they wern't a prob. So far they have not

been. Hope this helps! So sorry has to go thru this!

Re: Lymph Nodes

a,

Experience with the Lymph Nodes is what I had to learn with .

Her's would pop up and the Dr would give her Antibotics but this did not make

it

go away a lot of the time. Another thing about it is also another place in

which the glands will pop up. On the back of her neck she would have knots on

her neck the Dr checked these as well. Checking a Pattern of the Asthma and

the JA Flares. When her JA would act up these Lymph Nodes would be swollen.

Sometimes just alittle then sometimes big. So watch for this. When I found out

about these knots I would automatically check these areas often. Sometimes

they

hurt would say. Another thing I noticed about this was if

had a virus these knots would pop up as well. At times the neck would be to

sore to move. I am not sure if it is always related to JA but with it

was a Pattern. I never knew we had glands in the neck so I learned alot. We

have Lymph nodes in places you would not think about.

Robbin

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

[Guest guest]

I am still new at this but our rheumy always makes comments about calebs lymph

nodes he said that this is a chacteristic that they look for with systemic. I

am so sorry to hear that you are having such a rough time. you and jordan are in

my thoughts and prayers.

paula <sapphire61768@...> wrote: Hi everyone,

As you know its been a tough couple weeks for Jordan, the mysterious

pain in her back and the white cell count doing its own thing and the

doctors stumped.

Well tonight she complained that her neck was hurting, just under

the jaw, I felt and her lymph nodes are swollen and hard as a rock,

just looking at her you can see how swollen her face is.

We havent had lymph node issues since her dx. Is this something

common? I will be taking her tomorrow to our primary but he usually

isnt very usefull accept to send us to the ER..

Thanks again, just looking for a little reassurance, seems like

everytime you think you are starting to understand this disease

something else goes wrong.

a and Jordan (9, systemic)

[Guest guest]

I wish I had answers.. I need some help too.

About three weeks ago I discovered enlarged lymph nodes in Cade's (4

years old, poly) neck. The next day I found a sore in his mouth,

that

lasted only for a day or two, I thought okay they are enlarged

because

of the sore but the nodes are still enlarged on both sides basically

starting at the collar bone and going up. I don't know what to do

either. I have read that systemic can cause enlarged nodes. ??

Thanks for letting me jump on !

Cheryl and Cade (4,Poly )

>

> Hi everyone,

> As you know its been a tough couple weeks for Jordan, the

mysterious

> pain in her back and the white cell count doing its own thing and

the

> doctors stumped.

> Well tonight she complained that her neck was hurting, just

under

> the jaw, I felt and her lymph nodes are swollen and hard as a rock,

> just looking at her you can see how swollen her face is.

> We havent had lymph node issues since her dx. Is this

something

> common? I will be taking her tomorrow to our primary but he usually

> isnt very usefull accept to send us to the ER..

> Thanks again, just looking for a little reassurance, seems like

> everytime you think you are starting to understand this disease

> something else goes wrong.

> a and Jordan (9, systemic)

>

[Guest guest]

From what I have read lately..lymph nodes under jaw and the ones' near collar

bone can be two different diagnoses. I would definately ask the ped what the

difference is.

Cynde

Re: Lymph Nodes

I wish I had answers.. I need some help too.

About three weeks ago I discovered enlarged lymph nodes in Cade's (4

years old, poly) neck. The next day I found a sore in his mouth,

that

lasted only for a day or two, I thought okay they are enlarged

because

of the sore but the nodes are still enlarged on both sides basically

starting at the collar bone and going up. I don't know what to do

either. I have read that systemic can cause enlarged nodes. ??

Thanks for letting me jump on !

Cheryl and Cade (4,Poly )

>

> Hi everyone,

> As you know its been a tough couple weeks for Jordan, the

mysterious

> pain in her back and the white cell count doing its own thing and

the

> doctors stumped.

> Well tonight she complained that her neck was hurting, just

under

> the jaw, I felt and her lymph nodes are swollen and hard as a rock,

> just looking at her you can see how swollen her face is.

> We havent had lymph node issues since her dx. Is this

something

> common? I will be taking her tomorrow to our primary but he usually

> isnt very usefull accept to send us to the ER..

> Thanks again, just looking for a little reassurance, seems like

> everytime you think you are starting to understand this disease

> something else goes wrong.

> a and Jordan (9, systemic)

>

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[Guest guest]

Well we went to the peds and as I suspected his answer was, its probably the JRA

so lets wait and see if it gets worse.The way our luck has been going it will

get worse over the weekend,seems to be how it always works for us. I just wish

Boston was closer, feel better when the rheumatologist says its nothing to worry

about.

Thanks everyone,

a and Jordan

cynde lee <blooms@...> wrote:

From what I have read lately..lymph nodes under jaw and the ones' near

collar bone can be two different diagnoses. I would definately ask the ped what

the difference is.

Cynde

Re: Lymph Nodes

I wish I had answers.. I need some help too.

About three weeks ago I discovered enlarged lymph nodes in Cade's (4

years old, poly) neck. The next day I found a sore in his mouth,

that

lasted only for a day or two, I thought okay they are enlarged

because

of the sore but the nodes are still enlarged on both sides basically

starting at the collar bone and going up. I don't know what to do

either. I have read that systemic can cause enlarged nodes. ??

Thanks for letting me jump on !

Cheryl and Cade (4,Poly )

>

> Hi everyone,

> As you know its been a tough couple weeks for Jordan, the

mysterious

> pain in her back and the white cell count doing its own thing and

the

> doctors stumped.

> Well tonight she complained that her neck was hurting, just

under

> the jaw, I felt and her lymph nodes are swollen and hard as a rock,

> just looking at her you can see how swollen her face is.

> We havent had lymph node issues since her dx. Is this

something

> common? I will be taking her tomorrow to our primary but he usually

> isnt very usefull accept to send us to the ER..

> Thanks again, just looking for a little reassurance, seems like

> everytime you think you are starting to understand this disease

> something else goes wrong.

> a and Jordan (9, systemic)

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I don't know of any way to shift nodes around but can recommend an old

remedy from Granny Barb's list for the pain: soak a square of tightly

woven (not fuzzy) wool in Castor oil and apply. Do it on and off when

needed for about 10 minutes, as I remember. Anyone remember more

about this? Also just a thought -- when my underarm nodes got big, so

did some nodes inside my stomach and groin area; a CT Scan would show

if other nodes are present and what they're up to.

But I also had discomfort there; if you don't, I'd think the CT would

be very optional.

Let us know if the oil helps!

Best - Ellen D.

I remember it helping me. Where I got the square of wool I don't

remember -- it was firmOn Mar 4, 2009, at 9:33 AM, DAngelo wrote:

> I was diagnosed in 3/07, and am on watch and wait for now. My question

> is about lymph nodes. The bulky nodes in my neck have receeded some,

> but now I have a huge (golf ball sized) inflamed node in my armpit

> that is quite uncomfortable. Can anyone share with me if they have

> experience shifting in node size and suggestions for the discomfort.

> Thanks,

> D.

> (unmutated, 38+, 48 yrs old)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I've read that CLL can wax and wane, and regress spontaneously* perhaps not as

commonly as for follicular b-cell lymphoma (FL).

Such episodes (abrupt nodal swelling) are pretty common in FL and can recede

slowly after occuring. You may want to monitor your temperature to help your

doc determine if it's possibly reactive ... a response to an infection for

example.

~ Karl

* Spontaneous clinical regression in chronic lymphocytic leukaemia.

R, Ribeiro I, Shepherd P, P, Cook M, Lakhani A, Kaczmarski R,

Carrington P, Catovsky D.

Br J Haematol. 2002 Feb;116(2):341-5.

>

> I was diagnosed in 3/07, and am on watch and wait for now. My question is

about lymph nodes. The bulky nodes in my neck have receeded some, but now I

have a huge (golf ball sized) inflamed node in my armpit that is quite

uncomfortable. Can anyone share with me if they have experience shifting in

node size and suggestions for the discomfort.

> Thanks,

> D.

> (unmutated, 38+, 48 yrs old)

>

[Guest guest]

Chloe has had very swollen lymph nodes after several of her surgeries, but they have always resolved on their own after a few months. She is one week post op, and she has two the size of large, hard marbles. They do not bother her, unless they are touched.

 

Good luck!

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:44 AM, rebecca_tatreau <rebecca_tatreau@...> wrote:

Hello!Has anyone had issues with infected Lymph Nodes after Radical Mastoidectomy?Just looking for feedback

Thanks!------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Give a coure of antibiotics,they will subside.

Dr. Arun, India 

On 5/29/09, rebecca_tatreau <rebecca_tatreau@...> wrote:

Hello!Has anyone had issues with infected Lymph Nodes after Radical Mastoidectomy?Just looking for feedback :)Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Mine were swollen. They went back to normal after a short period of

time. I had wondered if it was because my immune system was overloaded

from the surgery. I treated mine as I would have if I was coming down

with the flu or a cold - get plenty of rest, fluids, good nutrition,

and eliminate junk foods, or anything else that would wear on your

immune system. Sorry, it's been over a year now, I don't remember

specifically how long it lasted, but it was several days.

On 5/29/09, rebecca_tatreau <rebecca_tatreau >

wrote:

Hello!

Has anyone had issues with infected Lymph Nodes after Radical

Mastoidectomy?

Just looking for feedback

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hi group. I was wondering if anyone with RA also has problems with swollen lymph

nodes. I currently have a bunch under both arms and behind both knees, and to

top it off a lump in my breast. I am going to the doctor tomorrow, but am

terrified. I have had swollen lymph nodes before, but not to the extent that

they currently are and never behind the knees. Was just wondering if anyone else

has had this and what the doctor said. Thanks, Donna

[Guest guest]

Hmmm I had a really big painful one in my left armpit. Oddly enough it just went

away while I was pregnant... Which further confirms my theory hormones have a

lot to do with RA!

Candace

No shadows to depress you

Only joys to surround you

Many friends to love you

God himself to bless you

These are my wishes for you,

For today, tomorrow & everyday.

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On Aug 26, 2010, at 8:38 AM, " koala2u " <koala2u@...> wrote:

> Hi group. I was wondering if anyone with RA also has problems with swollen

lymph nodes. I currently have a bunch under both arms and behind both knees, and

to top it off a lump in my breast. I am going to the doctor tomorrow, but am

terrified. I have had swollen lymph nodes before, but not to the extent that

they currently are and never behind the knees. Was just wondering if anyone else

has had this and what the doctor said. Thanks, Donna

>

>