Re: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson

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For all of you moms who would like to know about Dr. Levinson.........

Dr. Levinson hired Dr. Berger many years ago and they began Vitality Health and Wellness. Dr. Levinson is a Nutritional Psychiatrist. He not only did not know anything about autism but he also never worked with children. Dr. Berger was a Board Certified Pediatrician and a DAN physician. Dr. Berger built the practice that Dr. Levinson owned single handedly. Dr. Levinson eventually was trained to be a DAN physician by Dr. Berger. But here's the difference......Dr. Berger is about recovering children from autism.

One couple whose son was being treated by Dr. Levinson had spent more than $130,000. When the wife lost her job and they could not longer afford treatment for their son, Dr. Levinson's remark was "Do you not love your child?"

Tampa is not that far. It's worth the ride

Badillo

***please note the above represents the opinion of the writer and not the opinion of 's List or the moderator, neither of whom has any first hand experience with the medical practitioner in question***

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I’m sure there are autistic children with gut

problems and need dietary help but to hear that the doctor gave you a special

cream on his foot and the next day he said a word (mamama) and the following

day he said two words to his therapist makes me wonder if some of these doctors

are riding the coattails of a good ABA therapy and/or speech therapy and making

a lot of money doing so? Is it possible that the therapist had something

to do with it? Maybe he would be at the same level without the dietary supplements.

When you are using two different therapies, one proven and one not, it makes it

impossible to attribute success to any one of the therapies. I’ll stick

with the established research. But its your money. Spend it any way you want. I

apologize for butting in.

From: sList

[mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Elsa

Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:29 PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson

> >

> > Going to see Dr. Berger in two weeks. Just got scared all of a

> > sudden. Is it worth the trip? Do I even know what I'm doing?

Have

> > any of you met Dr. Berger? Heard good things; good experiences?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

From my experience with him, Berger is a nice guy. He has a child of his own so he understands kids. He has helped my sons during the time we saw him. As all of the DAN docs, he is not cheap, but I must say that he taught me a lot about the biomedical aspect of autism. It was a long way for our family to travel to Tampa once he moved from Miami. We switched to another DAN doctor who is closer, Dr. Dan Rossignal. I do highly recommend him.

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It is now $475 (which is for an hour and 15 minutes), and you pay a week in advance but just for the first appt. And if you cancel within the cancellation period they will refund that money. At follow-up visits (which you can do by phone) they charge you at the end of your appt, just like any other doctor. At least this is what I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong about how it works. I was also told the nutritionist consultation was optional, although highly recommended. I made it clear that my kids are gluten-free but not casein-free, and she said he would work with whatever we were comfortable with. I'm just wondering how much attitude to expect if we don't follow every single treatment option he recommends. I don't need the doc to be my best friend, but I also don't want to feel criticized/patronized if I decide I am not comfortable with a particular treatment. In that respect I've heard Dr. Berger is a

better choice. Any thoughts?> & gt;> & gt; Going to see Dr. Berger in two weeks. Just got scared all of a > & gt; sudden. Is it worth the trip? Do I even know what I'm doing? Have > & gt; any of you met Dr. Berger? Heard good things; good experiences?> & gt;>

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While it is good to be skeptical, for those wondering about biomedical, please go to ICDRC and look for the document titled: "Simplified Evaluation and Treatment of Autism Using Biomarker Directed Algorithms"

It is useful for both parents, medical professionals and others.

One of the misconceptions about biomedical assumes the treating physician merely says take this supplement, rub this cream on and do chelation.

There are labs to be conducted that can identify a whole host of medical issues for these children. They have commonalities.

My skepticism led me to conduct labs on my son so I could actually see what was going on in his body. It did not seem balanced in terms of what he was taking in.

RE: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson

I’m sure there are autistic children with gut problems and need dietary help but to hear that the doctor gave you a special cream on his foot and the next day he said a word (mamama) and the following day he said two words to his therapist makes me wonder if some of these doctors are riding the coattails of a good ABA therapy and/or speech therapy and making a lot of money doing so? Is it possible that the therapist had something to do with it? Maybe he would be at the same level without the dietary supplements When you are using two different therapies, one proven and one not, it makes it impossible to attribute success to any one of the therapies. I’ll stick with the established research. But its your money. Spend it any way you want. I apologize for butting in.

From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of ElsaSent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 4:29 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson

> >> > Going to see Dr. Berger in two weeks. Just got scared all of a > > sudden. Is it worth the trip? Do I even know what I'm doing? Have > > any of you met Dr. Berger? Heard good things; good experiences?> >>

[Guest guest]

You go girl!!!!! I'm with you!

It is posts like this one that should remind all of us how divided the autism community still is. It is hard enough for all of us parents to bear witness to the judgements of those around us who are not living with autism in their lives, but then to be judged by our own peers with such negative conotations attahed to it should sadden all us. To the original parent who is referred to in this post below if you say your child spoke after biomedical treatments, I believe you, for it is YOU who knows what has helped your child progress, not strangers on a yahoo posting board. I offer up no apologies for butting in, just support to those parents who choose to share their success no matter how controversial their methods may seem. Respectuflly,Beth Vataker

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Wow! That's unbelievable! I also believe that Dr. Levinson is a very smart man, but he's really just in it for the money!

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Could you please tell me, where is Dr. Dan

Rossignal?

From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of JodiNeuhof@...

Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:24

PM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Re: Dr.

Berger and Dr. Levinson

From my experience with him, Berger

is a nice guy. He has a child of his own so he understands kids. He

has helped my sons during the time we saw him. As all of the DAN docs, he

is not cheap, but I must say that he taught me a lot about the biomedical

aspect of autism. It was a long way for our family to travel to Tampa once he moved from Miami. We switched to another DAN doctor who

is closer, Dr. Dan Rossignal. I do highly recommend him.

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From: " kscelot " <KScelotbellsouth (DOT) net>

It is now $475 (which is for an hour and 15 minutes),

and you pay a

week in advance but just for the first appt. And if you cancel

within the cancellation period they will refund that money. At

follow-up visits (which you can do by phone) they charge you at the

end of your appt, just like any other doctor. At least this is what

I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong about how it works.

I was also told the nutritionist consultation was optional, although

highly recommended. I made it clear that my kids are gluten-free

but not casein-free, and she said he would work with whatever we

were comfortable with. I'm just wondering how much attitude to

expect if we don't follow every single treatment option he

recommends. I don't need the doc to be my best friend, but I also

don't want to feel criticized/patronized if I decide I am not

comfortable with a particular treatment. In that respect I've heard

Dr. Berger is a better choice. Any thoughts?

> & gt;

> & gt; Going to see Dr. Berger in two weeks. Just got scared all of

a

> & gt; sudden. Is it worth the trip? Do I even know what I'm doing?

Have

> & gt; any of you met Dr. Berger? Heard good things; good

experiences?

> & gt;

>

[Guest guest]

Melbourne.

google/yahoo: ICDRC

RE: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson

Could you please tell me, where is Dr. Dan Rossignal?

From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of JodiNeuhofcomcast (DOT) netSent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:24 PMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson

From my experience with him, Berger is a nice guy. He has a child of his own so he understands kids. He has helped my sons during the time we saw him. As all of the DAN docs, he is not cheap, but I must say that he taught me a lot about the biomedical aspect of autism. It was a long way for our family to travel to Tampa once he moved from Miami. We switched to another DAN doctor who is closer, Dr. Dan Rossignal. I do highly recommend him.

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "kscelot" <KScelotbellsouth (DOT) net>

It is now $475 (which is for an hour and 15 minutes), and you pay a week in advance but just for the first appt. And if you cancel within the cancellation period they will refund that money. At follow-up visits (which you can do by phone) they charge you at the end of your appt, just like any other doctor. At least this is what I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong about how it works. I was also told the nutritionist consultation was optional, although highly recommended I made it clear that my kids are gluten-free but not casein-free, and she said he would work with whatever we were comfortable with. I'm just wondering how much attitude to expect if we don't follow every single treatment option he recommends. I don't need the doc to be my best friend, but I also don't want to feel criticized/patronized if I decide I am not comfortable with a particular treatment. In that respect I've heard Dr. Berger is a better choice. Any thoughts?> & gt;> & gt; Going to see Dr. Berger in two weeks. Just got scared all of a > & gt; sudden. Is it worth the trip? Do I even know what I'm doing? Have > & gt; any of you met Dr. Berger? Heard good things; good experiences?> & gt;>

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Dr. Rossignol is located in Melbourne, FloridaHis telephone number is R Gomez wrote: Could you please tell me, where is Dr. Dan Rossignal? From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of JodiNeuhofcomcast (DOT) net Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:24 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Berger and Dr. Levinson From my experience with him, Berger is a nice guy. He has a child of his own so he understands kids. He has helped my sons during the time we saw him. As all of the DAN docs, he is not cheap, but I must say that he taught me a lot about the biomedical aspect of autism. It was a long way for our family to travel to

Tampa once he moved from Miami. We switched to another DAN doctor who is closer, Dr. Dan Rossignal. I do highly recommend him. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "kscelot" <KScelotbellsouth (DOT) net> It is now $475 (which is for an hour and 15 minutes), and you pay a week in advance but just for the first appt. And if you cancel within the cancellation period they will refund that money. At follow-up visits (which you can

do by phone) they charge you at the end of your appt, just like any other doctor. At least this is what I understood. Please correct me if I am wrong about how it works. I was also told the nutritionist consultation was optional, although highly recommended. I made it clear that my kids are gluten-free but not casein-free, and she said he would work with whatever we were comfortable with. I'm just wondering how much attitude to expect if we don't follow every single treatment option he recommends. I don't need the doc to be my best friend, but I also don't want to feel criticized/patronized if I decide I am not comfortable with a particular treatment. In that respect I've heard Dr. Berger is a better choice. Any thoughts? > & gt; > & gt; Going to see Dr. Berger in two weeks. Just got scared all of a > & gt; sudden. Is it worth the trip? Do I even know what I'm doing? Have > & gt; any of you met Dr. Berger? Heard good things; good experiences? > & gt; >