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Deb,

I am pretty sure that should be CIN-2 but not sure about the XMX.

Debrah Strader wrote:

>The patient had a renal cell carcinoma stage X/L stage II-TIN-XMX. Can anybody

tell me if I am hearing this correctly and how do you write it please? Thank

you. Deb

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I forgot one more thing. If you hear " TIS " it would be written as Tis (with the

T capitalized and the " is " in small letters). The " T " indicates the size of the

tumor and the " is " stands for in situ.

Morrow, CMT

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STAGING QUESTION

> The patient had a renal cell carcinoma stage X/L stage II-TIN-XMX. Can

anybody tell me if I am hearing this correctly and how do you write it please?

Thank you. Deb

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I don't know a whole lot about it, so don't take it as any kind of criticism

from me, but would CIN-2 actually fit in this instance. The reason I ask is

that in AAMT BOS on page 49, it says that CIN stands for cervical

intraepithelial neoplasia, and we're talking about renal cancer here.

I was wondering if this could all be under the TNM classification of

malignant tumors explained on pages 50 and 51 of AAMT BOS. You express TNM

classifications with arabic numerals and commas: T2, N1, M1 or T4, N3, M1.

Besides those numbers, you could also have an " X " after the T, N or M which

means assessment cannot be done, or 0 (zero, not o), which means no evidence

found, and Tis indicates in situ tumor: Tis, N0, M0.

Staging indicators are used along with TNM criteria to define cancers and

assess stage. These are expressed with capital letters and arabic numerals.

grade GX, G1, G2, G3

host performance H0, H1, H2, H3, H4

lymphatic invasion LX, L0, L1, L2

residual tumor RX, R0, R1, R2

scleral invasion S0, S0, S1, S2 (hmmm...wondering if that first one

should have been SX...why would they put S0 twice?)

venous invasion VX, V0, V1, V2

Lowercased prefixes with TNM and other symbols indicate criteria used to

describe and stage the tumor. Place the prefix on-line, e.g., cTNM, aT2.

I don't know if any of this helps, but it just appears to match more closely

to what you have typed with the X's and L, T and M. Maybe you can make some

sense out of it since you're the one actually hearing what the doc is

saying. Hope it helps. :o)

----Original Message Follows----

To: Debrah Strader , nmtc <nmtc >

Subject: Re: STAGING QUESTION

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:08:16 -0800

Deb,

I am pretty sure that should be CIN-2 but not sure about the XMX.

Debrah Strader wrote:

>The patient had a renal cell carcinoma stage X/L stage II-TIN-XMX. Can

anybody tell me if I am hearing this correctly and how do you write it

please? Thank you. Deb

>

>

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I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but did any of you see the post I

sent in yesterday on T, N, M staging? I'm wondering because I never got it and

I always do if stuff is posted to the list. I explained T, N, and M in the same

manner as J. L. below.

OK, so I can deal with not RECEIVING e-mail but now apparently I can't trust

that my responses are going out. Great! Lovely! Think I'll quit now.

Grrrr...COMCAST!

Morrow, CMT

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Re: STAGING QUESTION

> >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:08:16 -0800

> >

> >Deb,

> >

> >I am pretty sure that should be CIN-2 but not sure about the XMX.

> >

> >

> >

> >Debrah Strader wrote:

> >

> > >The patient had a renal cell carcinoma stage X/L stage II-TIN-XMX. Can

> >anybody tell me if I am hearing this correctly and how do you write it

> >please? Thank you. Deb

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Wait, wait. I'm thinking after I posted that, I did see that you had

responded with something similar before me and I just hadn't read it yet.

So it got through okay, I think. :o)

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To: nmtc <nmtc >

Subject: Re: STAGING QUESTION

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:08:42 -0500

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but did any of you see the post I

sent in yesterday on T, N, M staging? I'm wondering because I never got it

and I always do if stuff is posted to the list. I explained T, N, and M in

the same manner as J. L. below.

OK, so I can deal with not RECEIVING e-mail but now apparently I can't trust

that my responses are going out. Great! Lovely! Think I'll quit now.

Grrrr...COMCAST!

Morrow, CMT

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Re: STAGING QUESTION

> >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:08:16 -0800

> >

> >Deb,

> >

> >I am pretty sure that should be CIN-2 but not sure about the XMX.

> >

> >

> >

> >Debrah Strader wrote:

> >

> > >The patient had a renal cell carcinoma stage X/L stage II-TIN-XMX.

Can

> >anybody tell me if I am hearing this correctly and how do you write it

> >please? Thank you. Deb

> > >

> > >

> > >

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