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Welcome Andy,

Marilyn said you can on a Foreman type grill.

> I am getting ready to start the intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I

> have a question about the preparation of the meat. Why does the

> fish /

> beef patty have to be broiled? Can I grill them instead?

>

> -Andy

> UC 10 years / SCD tomorrow :)

>

>

Carol F.

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Is there something about a propane grill that is not SCD compliant?

Carol Frilegh wrote:

Welcome Andy,

Marilyn said you can on a Foreman type grill.

> I am getting ready to start the intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I

> have a question about the preparation of the meat. Why does the

> fish /

> beef patty have to be broiled? Can I grill them instead?

>

> -Andy

> UC 10 years / SCD tomorrow :)

>

>

Carol F.

Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy

http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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At 07:49 PM 1/1/2008, you wrote:

I am getting ready to start the

intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I have a question about the preparation

of the meat. Why does the fish / beef patty have to be broiled? Can I

grill them instead?

What kind of grill? An electric grill, such as a Foreman is OK. If you're

taking about an out door type grill, such as a propane BBQ pit, that's a

little more problematic, because the smoke can be rather advanced for

some of us. (I know, I know, propane is supposed to be clean burning, but

the juices from the meat drip down and burn, and then smoke the meat.)

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

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Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if yes, which one????

Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox?See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter.

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Would Costco New York have the same??

It's at Whole Foods in Toronto, Daiter's, Pusateri's and Costco

On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:08 PM, aproposofaol wrote:

Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if yes, which one????

In a message dated 1/2/2008 4:05:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, c.frileghsympatico (DOT) ca writes:

Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox?

Carol F.

Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy

http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter.

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Carol,

This article refers to organic chemicals that are "probably"

carcinogenic to humans when cooking meat on a charcoal grill. I am

using a propane grill and am not cooking dried meat.

"The level of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), the organic

chemicals that are probably carcinogenic to humans, is generally higher

in charcoal-grilled or dried meat." ... "An analysis of the

cooking methods showed that charcoal grilling gave rise to

significantly higher levels of PAHs than gasgrilling or electric-oven

roasting"...""The trade is therefore advised to use gas grilling or

electric-oven roasting to make 'siu mei', and electric grilling to cook

dried meat, in order to reduce PAH levels,"

Regardless, I still don't understand why using a gas grill would be

illegal for the SCD diet. If you broil, you will induce smoke from the

meat as well.

Thanks again for your time and your patience with my newbie questions...

-Andy

Carol Frilegh wrote:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200407/14/eng20040714_149472.html

> Carol,

>

> You have been most helpful with everything I posted and I thank

you

> for your patience. I must ask, why using a grill is bad for you?

> What is it about the smoke that is harmful? Do you know of any

> resources where I can get more info?

> -Andy

>

Carol F.

Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy

http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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Marilyn,

That would make me very sad not to be able to grill my food. I have

been known to use my grill year round - even during

snowstorms. Is it something I can try and see if I tolerate after the

intro diet or do I just have give it up completely?

-Andy

Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

At 07:49 PM 1/1/2008, you wrote:

I am getting ready to

start the

intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I have a question about the

preparation

of the meat. Why does the fish / beef patty have to be broiled? Can I

grill them instead?

What kind of grill? An electric grill, such as a Foreman is OK. If

you're

taking about an out door type grill, such as a propane BBQ pit, that's

a

little more problematic, because the smoke can be rather advanced for

some of us. (I know, I know, propane is supposed to be clean burning,

but

the juices from the meat drip down and burn, and then smoke the meat.)

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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But it would make you happy to heal Andy. Am I sad without bagels and croissants? Not really. I had so many before I got sick, I think "-been there-done that!"Saeson up your meat and you'll get over being grilled:-) Marilyn, That would make me very sad not to be able to grill my food.  I have been known to use my grill year round - even during snowstorms.  Is it something I can try and see if I tolerate after the intro diet or do I just have give it up completely? -Andy Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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Oh, I have MCS so don't do propane gas. Maybe propane is a  different case scenario. We'll see what the Mighty Marilyn says.I eat naturally smoked salmon. Smoked paprika is legal too.  Carol, This article refers to organic chemicals that are "probably" carcinogenic to humans when cooking meat on a charcoal grill.  I am using a propane grill and am not cooking dried meat. "The level of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), the organic chemicals that are probably carcinogenic to humans, is generally higher in charcoal-grilled or dried meat." ...  "An analysis of the cooking methods showed that charcoal grilling gave rise to significantly higher levels of PAHs than gasgrilling or electric-oven roasting"...""The trade is therefore advised to use gas grilling or electric-oven roasting to make 'siu mei', and electric grilling to cook dried meat, in order to reduce PAH levels," Regardless, I still don't understand why using a gas grill would be illegal for the SCD diet.  If you broil, you will induce smoke from the meat as well. Thanks again for your time and your patience with my newbie questions... -Andy Carol Frilegh wrote: http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200407/14/eng20040714_149472.html > Carol, > > You have been most helpful with everything I posted and I thank you > for your patience. I must ask, why using a grill is bad for you? > What is it about the smoke that is harmful? Do you know of any > resources where I can get more info? > -Andy > Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox?

>

> Oh, I have MCS so don't do propane gas. Maybe propane is a different

> case scenario. We'll see what the Mighty Marilyn says.

>

> I eat naturally smoked salmon. Smoked paprika is legal too.

>

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Yes, lox and I am in Canada and use Nanuk sugar free.

nanuk @ compuserve. com

> Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox?

>

>

>

>>

>> Oh, I have MCS so don't do propane gas. Maybe propane is a different

>> case scenario. We'll see what the Mighty Marilyn says.

>>

>> I eat naturally smoked salmon. Smoked paprika is legal too.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

Carol F.

Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy

http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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It's at Whole Foods in Toronto, Daiter's, Pusateri's and Costco Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if yes, which one????   Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox? Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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vitalchoice.com is a good site to buy fish from. all wild and a lot

less metals in the fish due to practices they enforce from growing to

fishing. more expensive but worth it. unfortunately the lox there

has sugar in it. but the canned fish and fresh fish is great.

>

> > Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if

> > yes, which one????

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 1/2/2008 4:05:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > c.frilegh@... writes:

> > Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox?

>

> Carol F.

> Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy

> http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

> http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

>

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Marilyn, Thanks. I will go through the first month with out my

precious grill and see how I do. I really want to give this diet a

fair shake and if the grill has the potential to skew the results, then

its probably not worth it. From what I have been reading, I will know

whether or not the diet works after the first month anyway.

Where can I find these wonderful seasoning recipes?!

-Andy

Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

At 02:30 PM 1/2/2008, you wrote:

That would make me very

sad not

to be able to grill my food. I have been known to use my grill year

round - even during snowstorms. Is it something I can try

and see if I tolerate after the intro diet or do I just have give it up

completely?

Andy,

Well, I understand the grill year 'round notion, because I use my

Foreman

grill year round. What I can tell you is that for four days after

Hurricane Katrina, since the friend who gave us shelter was without

power, we either cooked on a propane camp stove or a natural gas grill,

and I had no problems with the food.

However, DO keep in mind that I was, at that point, four years on the

diet, and so my tolerances would be expected to be somewhat higher than

a

newcomer's.

I can also say that earlier than that, I have used my Cameron's

stove-top

smoker, and had no hassle with the food.

If you're determined to hang onto your grill, I'd say to try it after

the

intro diet, BUT, if you do not see the results you hope for from SCD,

that is one of the first things I would pull. (Ask me about pulling

fruit

smoothies.... love 'em. They (still) don't love me....)

Besides, with Cajun BBQ seasoning, blackened beef seasoning, blackened

fish seasoning, and blackened chicken seasoning, not to mention Creole

Seasoning and Cajun seasoning , my food has PLENTY of pizzazz! (all

homemade, of course!)

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

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At 09:11 AM 1/3/2008, you wrote:

Where can I find these wonderful

seasoning recipes?!

<evil chuckle>

Just ask.... my current all-purpose one is Cajun BBQ. I use it on grilled

(oops, I shouldn't mention that if you're giving up your grill!) fish, or

shrimp, or sauteed crab meat.

However, I recommend that you do the intro diet with just salt and

pepper. Well, okay, maybe some mustard powder. And, er...

<thwack!>

Uhm, sorry about that. I was just thumping that part of my cook's soul

which has become enamored of Cajun and Creole spices in the 40+ years

I've lived in New Orleans. It suffered a severe shock right after

Hurricane Katrina, as the friend we stayed with did not, at that time,

have any legal spice mixtures on hand (she has since remedied the

matter.) and I ended up back on just salt and pepper for ten mortal

days. Quelle horreur!

When I began, I had been very ill with gall bladder disease for two

months. I was MOSTLY on SCD for that time, as in, I'd begun the yogurt,

eliminated all starches and refined sugars. (My spice mixtures weren't

yet legal.) I was in hospital for four days for what was supposed to be

same-day surgery. (Too much anesthesia, body didn't detox properly, I

passed out every time I tried to stand up.)

When I got home from the hospital, I told Harry that NOW was the time.

All legal, all the time. (Well, barring the newbie mistakes we all seem

destined to make, no matter how careful we are!)

I was too sick to make chicken soup. Harry is not a cook. (Making SCD

gelatin for me while I was in hospital was pretty much his limit.) So I

began with roast beef, roast pork, steamed zucchini, and soft-boiled

eggs.

If I remember correctly, it was around four weeks, I was well enough to

start making yogurt again, and learned that I did much, much better if it

was dripped. Around eight weeks, well, it was Christmas, and although I

was all SCD, some of the stuff was too advanced. <wry

grin>

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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