Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Welcome Andy, Marilyn said you can on a Foreman type grill. > I am getting ready to start the intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I > have a question about the preparation of the meat. Why does the > fish / > beef patty have to be broiled? Can I grill them instead? > > -Andy > UC 10 years / SCD tomorrow > > Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Is there something about a propane grill that is not SCD compliant? Carol Frilegh wrote: Welcome Andy, Marilyn said you can on a Foreman type grill. > I am getting ready to start the intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I > have a question about the preparation of the meat. Why does the > fish / > beef patty have to be broiled? Can I grill them instead? > > -Andy > UC 10 years / SCD tomorrow > > Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 At 07:49 PM 1/1/2008, you wrote: I am getting ready to start the intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I have a question about the preparation of the meat. Why does the fish / beef patty have to be broiled? Can I grill them instead? What kind of grill? An electric grill, such as a Foreman is OK. If you're taking about an out door type grill, such as a propane BBQ pit, that's a little more problematic, because the smoke can be rather advanced for some of us. (I know, I know, propane is supposed to be clean burning, but the juices from the meat drip down and burn, and then smoke the meat.) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if yes, which one???? Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox?See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Would Costco New York have the same?? It's at Whole Foods in Toronto, Daiter's, Pusateri's and Costco On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:08 PM, aproposofaol wrote: Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if yes, which one???? In a message dated 1/2/2008 4:05:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, c.frileghsympatico (DOT) ca writes: Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox? Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Carol, This article refers to organic chemicals that are "probably" carcinogenic to humans when cooking meat on a charcoal grill. I am using a propane grill and am not cooking dried meat. "The level of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), the organic chemicals that are probably carcinogenic to humans, is generally higher in charcoal-grilled or dried meat." ... "An analysis of the cooking methods showed that charcoal grilling gave rise to significantly higher levels of PAHs than gasgrilling or electric-oven roasting"...""The trade is therefore advised to use gas grilling or electric-oven roasting to make 'siu mei', and electric grilling to cook dried meat, in order to reduce PAH levels," Regardless, I still don't understand why using a gas grill would be illegal for the SCD diet. If you broil, you will induce smoke from the meat as well. Thanks again for your time and your patience with my newbie questions... -Andy Carol Frilegh wrote: http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200407/14/eng20040714_149472.html > Carol, > > You have been most helpful with everything I posted and I thank you > for your patience. I must ask, why using a grill is bad for you? > What is it about the smoke that is harmful? Do you know of any > resources where I can get more info? > -Andy > Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Marilyn, That would make me very sad not to be able to grill my food. I have been known to use my grill year round - even during snowstorms. Is it something I can try and see if I tolerate after the intro diet or do I just have give it up completely? -Andy Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote: At 07:49 PM 1/1/2008, you wrote: I am getting ready to start the intro diet full-bore tomorrow and I have a question about the preparation of the meat. Why does the fish / beef patty have to be broiled? Can I grill them instead? What kind of grill? An electric grill, such as a Foreman is OK. If you're taking about an out door type grill, such as a propane BBQ pit, that's a little more problematic, because the smoke can be rather advanced for some of us. (I know, I know, propane is supposed to be clean burning, but the juices from the meat drip down and burn, and then smoke the meat.) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 But it would make you happy to heal Andy. Am I sad without bagels and croissants? Not really. I had so many before I got sick, I think "-been there-done that!"Saeson up your meat and you'll get over being grilled:-) Marilyn, That would make me very sad not to be able to grill my food. I have been known to use my grill year round - even during snowstorms. Is it something I can try and see if I tolerate after the intro diet or do I just have give it up completely? -Andy Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Oh, I have MCS so don't do propane gas. Maybe propane is a different case scenario. We'll see what the Mighty Marilyn says.I eat naturally smoked salmon. Smoked paprika is legal too. Carol, This article refers to organic chemicals that are "probably" carcinogenic to humans when cooking meat on a charcoal grill. I am using a propane grill and am not cooking dried meat. "The level of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), the organic chemicals that are probably carcinogenic to humans, is generally higher in charcoal-grilled or dried meat." ... "An analysis of the cooking methods showed that charcoal grilling gave rise to significantly higher levels of PAHs than gasgrilling or electric-oven roasting"...""The trade is therefore advised to use gas grilling or electric-oven roasting to make 'siu mei', and electric grilling to cook dried meat, in order to reduce PAH levels," Regardless, I still don't understand why using a gas grill would be illegal for the SCD diet. If you broil, you will induce smoke from the meat as well. Thanks again for your time and your patience with my newbie questions... -Andy Carol Frilegh wrote: http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200407/14/eng20040714_149472.html > Carol, > > You have been most helpful with everything I posted and I thank you > for your patience. I must ask, why using a grill is bad for you? > What is it about the smoke that is harmful? Do you know of any > resources where I can get more info? > -Andy > Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox? > > Oh, I have MCS so don't do propane gas. Maybe propane is a different > case scenario. We'll see what the Mighty Marilyn says. > > I eat naturally smoked salmon. Smoked paprika is legal too. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yes, lox and I am in Canada and use Nanuk sugar free. nanuk @ compuserve. com > Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox? > > > >> >> Oh, I have MCS so don't do propane gas. Maybe propane is a different >> case scenario. We'll see what the Mighty Marilyn says. >> >> I eat naturally smoked salmon. Smoked paprika is legal too. >> > > > > > Carol F. Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 It's at Whole Foods in Toronto, Daiter's, Pusateri's and Costco Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if yes, which one???? Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox? Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 vitalchoice.com is a good site to buy fish from. all wild and a lot less metals in the fish due to practices they enforce from growing to fishing. more expensive but worth it. unfortunately the lox there has sugar in it. but the canned fish and fresh fish is great. > > > Is there one that can be store bought that is scd legal, and if > > yes, which one???? > > > > > > In a message dated 1/2/2008 4:05:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > c.frilegh@... writes: > > Where do you buy Naturally smoked salmon? Do you mean lox? > > Carol F. > Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy > http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh > http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Go there and have a look for it or phone, Would Costco New York have the same?? Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Marilyn, Thanks. I will go through the first month with out my precious grill and see how I do. I really want to give this diet a fair shake and if the grill has the potential to skew the results, then its probably not worth it. From what I have been reading, I will know whether or not the diet works after the first month anyway. Where can I find these wonderful seasoning recipes?! -Andy Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote: At 02:30 PM 1/2/2008, you wrote: That would make me very sad not to be able to grill my food. I have been known to use my grill year round - even during snowstorms. Is it something I can try and see if I tolerate after the intro diet or do I just have give it up completely? Andy, Well, I understand the grill year 'round notion, because I use my Foreman grill year round. What I can tell you is that for four days after Hurricane Katrina, since the friend who gave us shelter was without power, we either cooked on a propane camp stove or a natural gas grill, and I had no problems with the food. However, DO keep in mind that I was, at that point, four years on the diet, and so my tolerances would be expected to be somewhat higher than a newcomer's. I can also say that earlier than that, I have used my Cameron's stove-top smoker, and had no hassle with the food. If you're determined to hang onto your grill, I'd say to try it after the intro diet, BUT, if you do not see the results you hope for from SCD, that is one of the first things I would pull. (Ask me about pulling fruit smoothies.... love 'em. They (still) don't love me....) Besides, with Cajun BBQ seasoning, blackened beef seasoning, blackened fish seasoning, and blackened chicken seasoning, not to mention Creole Seasoning and Cajun seasoning , my food has PLENTY of pizzazz! (all homemade, of course!) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 At 09:11 AM 1/3/2008, you wrote: Where can I find these wonderful seasoning recipes?! <evil chuckle> Just ask.... my current all-purpose one is Cajun BBQ. I use it on grilled (oops, I shouldn't mention that if you're giving up your grill!) fish, or shrimp, or sauteed crab meat. However, I recommend that you do the intro diet with just salt and pepper. Well, okay, maybe some mustard powder. And, er... <thwack!> Uhm, sorry about that. I was just thumping that part of my cook's soul which has become enamored of Cajun and Creole spices in the 40+ years I've lived in New Orleans. It suffered a severe shock right after Hurricane Katrina, as the friend we stayed with did not, at that time, have any legal spice mixtures on hand (she has since remedied the matter.) and I ended up back on just salt and pepper for ten mortal days. Quelle horreur! When I began, I had been very ill with gall bladder disease for two months. I was MOSTLY on SCD for that time, as in, I'd begun the yogurt, eliminated all starches and refined sugars. (My spice mixtures weren't yet legal.) I was in hospital for four days for what was supposed to be same-day surgery. (Too much anesthesia, body didn't detox properly, I passed out every time I tried to stand up.) When I got home from the hospital, I told Harry that NOW was the time. All legal, all the time. (Well, barring the newbie mistakes we all seem destined to make, no matter how careful we are!) I was too sick to make chicken soup. Harry is not a cook. (Making SCD gelatin for me while I was in hospital was pretty much his limit.) So I began with roast beef, roast pork, steamed zucchini, and soft-boiled eggs. If I remember correctly, it was around four weeks, I was well enough to start making yogurt again, and learned that I did much, much better if it was dripped. Around eight weeks, well, it was Christmas, and although I was all SCD, some of the stuff was too advanced. <wry grin> — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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