Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I would definitely interrupt the behavior any time I saw it. I know it sounds harsh but I would close the door he wanted to close and tell him it is ok that someone else close the door. I would try to see if there is any other function he is getting out of it or if it is completely stimming. Does he get attention from you or anyone in the home when he does this? What may have begun as a stim may have turned into attention seeking. Just a thought. Not likely it sounds but perhaps check. I would try a contingency of some sort. Have him do some sort of task, depending upon his age, developmental level or I guess also size and how much you wish to challenge him then he can have 2 minutes of opening and closing his favorite door. Set a timer that is visual for him and you. Then, if he wants to play with the door again, try to get him to use his words to play with the door and/or do another task. Then, timer, door again. It is work, I know. Sometimes the contingency you set in place is enough to make him stop b/c if he has to actually DO something before he gets his favorite thing, then it may not be worth doing. Or it may. If it is, use it as a learning opportunity and challenge him. I used to have my son do bear crawl 10 times. That way, he got his OT, which is good for him and he got to do what he wanted (whatever that was at the time). You may need to do a little of all of these things and while doing this, try to find a substitute stim for him. An alternative that is perhaps more functional. I will think of something functional to replace it but in the meantime, praise him whenever he leaves a door open or closed. Try to say something like, "Great, you left the door closed." or "Great job leaving the door open." Set him up too. Hold the door open so he cannot close it and praise him for leaving it open, even though he is probably totally pissed at you. Say the praise as quickly as possible and be sincere. Try not to use a praise sentence that has "Great not playing with the door." It is better to praise the positive behavior and not the negative version of that. And, most importantly, breathe deeply while you are doing all of this b/c I know those stimming behaviors make me so anxious sometimes, I want to scream. Try that for awhile and let me know what happens. Try for a few days and track it to see if any of that is helping. I will think of more strategies. Re: Re: BIO-MEDICAL INTERVENTION In a message dated 8/23/2008 12:12:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thecohanescomcast (DOT) net writes: I feel like I am pulling ay straws trying to find the reasons for my daughters behavior What kind of behavior is your child having? You might want to check out the Feingold Diet. It is very effective for children extremely reactive to phenols, dyes, chemicals, etc. Badillo It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I would definitely interrupt the behavior any time I saw it. I know it sounds harsh but I would close the door he wanted to close and tell him it is ok that someone else close the door. I would try to see if there is any other function he is getting out of it or if it is completely stimming. Does he get attention from you or anyone in the home when he does this? What may have begun as a stim may have turned into attention seeking. Just a thought. Not likely it sounds but perhaps check. I would try a contingency of some sort. Have him do some sort of task, depending upon his age, developmental level or I guess also size and how much you wish to challenge him then he can have 2 minutes of opening and closing his favorite door. Set a timer that is visual for him and you. Then, if he wants to play with the door again, try to get him to use his words to play with the door and/or do another task. Then, timer, door again. It is work, I know. Sometimes the contingency you set in place is enough to make him stop b/c if he has to actually DO something before he gets his favorite thing, then it may not be worth doing. Or it may. If it is, use it as a learning opportunity and challenge him. I used to have my son do bear crawl 10 times. That way, he got his OT, which is good for him and he got to do what he wanted (whatever that was at the time). You may need to do a little of all of these things and while doing this, try to find a substitute stim for him. An alternative that is perhaps more functional. I will think of something functional to replace it but in the meantime, praise him whenever he leaves a door open or closed. Try to say something like, "Great, you left the door closed." or "Great job leaving the door open." Set him up too. Hold the door open so he cannot close it and praise him for leaving it open, even though he is probably totally pissed at you. Say the praise as quickly as possible and be sincere. Try not to use a praise sentence that has "Great not playing with the door." It is better to praise the positive behavior and not the negative version of that. And, most importantly, breathe deeply while you are doing all of this b/c I know those stimming behaviors make me so anxious sometimes, I want to scream. Try that for awhile and let me know what happens. Try for a few days and track it to see if any of that is helping. I will think of more strategies. Re: Re: BIO-MEDICAL INTERVENTION In a message dated 8/23/2008 12:12:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thecohanescomcast (DOT) net writes: I feel like I am pulling ay straws trying to find the reasons for my daughters behavior What kind of behavior is your child having? You might want to check out the Feingold Diet. It is very effective for children extremely reactive to phenols, dyes, chemicals, etc. Badillo It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I also believe that my 2 other children are so therapeutic for my daughter. She has just started to turn the corner and take a real interest in her little brother. She asked to cuddle with him the other night. My heart was filled with Joy! I am hoping she will also take more interest in her baby sister but I have a feeling that wont happen until she can give her something back. I found McCain’s choice very interesting and eye opening. I am a democrat but I have to say, I will be listening to Sara to hear more about her plans before I make any decisions. Very clever of McCain to choose a women of 5 children…one with a disability to be his running mate. J From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of MAUREEN JESUS Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:31 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Re: BIO-MEDICAL INTERVENTION I have one younger " typical " daughter and she is a little trooper . When my son ignores her ( which is often) she uses every tactic her little 2 year old mind can come up with to engage him.I also see how frustrated she becomes when her big brother ( Which she idolizes ) does not want to be around her . She will hug him and tell him she loves him (she is very intuitive) , a little mother . My son many times pushes her away and it makes me so upset . I know that he becomes defensive but I hate to see her be regected and she still does not understand why. She has been his best therapist , by far. Even though when their are other children around she tends to leave Ian on his own . She gets so excited that other kids are actually playing with her and she goes to them ( I cant blame her) . I pray for all of our children . Maybe having a vice-president who is the mother of a disabled child will help us continue our fight and pass some legislature to help our kids . As much as I want to accept my sons autism , I cant help but continue to try and fight for him. Re: Re: BIO-MEDICAL INTERVENTION In a message dated 8/23/2008 12:12:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thecohanescomcast (DOT) net writes: I feel like I am pulling ay straws trying to find the reasons for my daughters behavior What kind of behavior is your child having? You might want to check out the Feingold Diet. It is very effective for children extremely reactive to phenols, dyes, chemicals, etc. Badillo It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Thanks..as mentioned in another e-mail, I didn’t get that they were one in the same (Dr and lab). Appreciate the link. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of badillo9@... Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:55 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Re: BIO-MEDICAL INTERVENTION In a message dated 8/29/2008 3:36:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thecohanes@... writes: How do I contact him? www.greatplainslaboratory.com It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 My son obsessively opens and closes doors ( It is bad) he cant help himself. He will do this all day and it has recently become worse Maureen All these kids have OCD - obsessive compulsive disorder. Try Inositol - it's specific for OCD behavior. Plus GABA would help as well. It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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