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Stevie,

You are so amazing. I am in awe. You have triumphed so much. You should

really give yourself credit because you were the one that had to completely

shift your perspective about things which I know is very difficult. I am so

glad you are going to be helping other women. You will be great at it.

Congratulations on getting your Diflucan. Maybe the LC could help you get a

little bank milk to tide you over in the meantime. Or maybe your sister could

pump and freeze and special deliver some milk for you! hehe! :D

Again Kudos to you!

Wendi

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Awesome Stevie!!! & nbsp; I sincerely hope that something I passed along to

you was useful. & nbsp; :) & nbsp; Btw, who is your LC?!<br>

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As for your milk supply, see if you could find some friends who also

breastfeed who would donate a day or so for you! & nbsp; <br>

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At 05:51 PM 5/7/99 , you wrote: <br>

<blockquote type=cite cite>Ladies~My DR called me 1st thing this morning.

My LC had really read her the riot act on this thrush issue. She gave her

Jack Newman's <br>

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Hale's treatment for thrush. 14 day treatment with Diflucan. Wonder of

wonders she is putting me on it. The only problem is b/c it's so costly I

need prior approval from my insurance, which could take 1 week. Keep your

fingers crossed for me that it won't take that long. My DR was very sorry

that I had to go through this much pain trouble. I can't freeze any milk

for 10 days after treatment is started. That's a bad thing as I go back

to work next Monday. I can pump feed,but not freeze. This is going to be

hard, not having a back-up supply. <br>

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I will just have to pump, pump, pump!!! Whatever it takes. Luckily my dh

will take some of the load. <br>

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Because of my persistance in this for the last 2 months, my LC asked me

if I would be interested in being an advocate for BFding. This means I

get to help other nursing moms. WOW, what an incredible feeling. I went

from formula to BMilk exclusevily in less than 2 months!!!! You all have

changed my life!!! THANK YOU :0) <br>

Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 2/22/99 </blockquote><br>

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In a message dated 5/7/99 6:56:46 PM Central Daylight Time, Phawxsee@...

writes:

<< wow! i bet she'd get along real well with some of the 16 year old pot

heads i

used to be friends with ! (in a different life it seems like now!) >>

Yes Alli - the sad thing is she probably would ...

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My sister-in-law also smoked and drank some when she was pregnant, and it

just made me sick. For the most part, her two sons are healthy, but I was

worried sick both times that something would be really wrong. The last boy

was born 12 days before my daughter Emma. I'll keep your sister's baby in

my prayers.

and Emma 3-30-99

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>In a message dated 5/7/99 3:22:05 PM Central Daylight Time, craun@...

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> We live about 10 hours away. I think of her as my best friend and my

> sister. We are 10 years apart in age.(she is older, hee-hee). I wish we

> lived close. DH wishes too since my phone bill shows it.

> Sherry

>

> SAHM to (8), (4), Kaitlyn (2), and baby born 12/17/98.

>

> *Breast fed is best fed* >>

>

>That's so wonderful! The farther distance between me and my sisters the

>better. I am only 25 and more responsible than both of them put together

(29

>and 31). The 31 year old found out she's pregnant a couple of weeks ago

(she

>is divorced) and is still drinking, smoking, and smoking pot. I was going

to

>send something on this but didn't want everything to think I was being

petty

>or over exagerating but as you can tell it's REALLY bothering me. I want

to

>be happy for her but CAN'T be if this is the way she's going to treat her

>unborn child.

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Welcome back Zephyr, I'm so glad skyler is doing better. It it so draining when one of your children are hurt in anyway. As far as your family goes, well what can we do. I can tell you some horror stories about my husbands ex-mother inlaw that will make you cringe! Anyway, glad your back.

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Sorry I have been lurking. Have had no energy at all I think I am emotionally wiped out from Skylers ordeal. My family is also having no communication with us because my ex step mother helped us out during Skylers hospital stay and that is draining me emotionally.

I want to say thanks to everyone who lent their support, it was much needed and very appreciated!!!! my thoughts are with all those that are in need of prayers right now and congrats to all those losers. I hope to be in that category next week.

Zephyr

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Thanks !!!!! Your dog paper always makes me smile. Our beagle is mad at me for being at the hospital for 4 days and has peed on the floor every night since we have been home, thank god I love her.

Zephyr

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Sorry I have been lurking. Have had no energy at all I think I am emotionally wiped out from Skylers ordeal. My family is also having no communication with us because my ex step mother helped us out during Skylers hospital stay and that is draining me emotionally.

I want to say thanks to everyone who lent their support, it was much needed and very appreciated!!!! my thoughts are with all those that are in need of prayers right now and congrats to all those losers. I hope to be in that category next week.

Zephyr

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Zephyr,

Hang in there. It must be terrible to have to

watch Skyler be sick. Don't think about the rest

of your family, if they can't focus on the

important things in life and be there for you

through this, then it is not something you need

to worry about right now. Keep us posted and let

me know if you need anything.

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Hi Zephyr,

I am sorry that you are still having a rough time. How is Skyler doing now??

My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Maureen

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Sorry I have been lurking. Have had no energy at all I think I am emotionally wiped out from Skylers ordeal. My family is also having no communication with us because my ex step mother helped us out during Skylers hospital stay and that is draining me emotionally.

I want to say thanks to everyone who lent their support, it was much needed and very appreciated!!!! my thoughts are with all those that are in need of prayers right now and congrats to all those losers. I hope to be in that category next week.

Zephyr

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Ann

I understand about the ketones, we started at the 3:1 then went

2.8:1 and now are 2.5:1 until the 2.5:1 his ketones stayed high,

usually now they are 40-80 but sometimes he still reads higher at

night. I would make a change at least every 5 days to a week, we

also check and log weekly weight and if he gains consistanly over a

two week period or loses adjustments are made. We've always been

fine weight wise he drops a pounds one week and gains it back the

next and vice a versa so its important to make sure its a consistant

gain or loss. If he's getting too many calories that can cause

seizures or too little calories can.

Jackie

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Lowering by 100 calories is good fine tuning if you think he is gaining. You

might have to lower the ratio again if the ketones are too high.

Bill

arwr12 wrote:

>

> It is interesting that even with the drop to 3.0:1, 's ketones

> are 80+ to 160+ at night. 2 nights ago, I had never seen the ketones

> register so black.

>

> He still hates eating, but it's a tiny bit better. I guess. I'm not

> sure actually that it is better yet. This is the 5th day on 3:0:1.

> I'm thinking of lowering his calories by 100 calories per day. Do you

> all think that might help him? He's not losing any weight on the

> current calories (1820 per day - he weighs 32kilos) Actually, he may

> have gained a pound or 2.

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Ann,

Seems like the ratio still is too high. He must be one of those kids that makes

ketones very easily. I don't think decreasing the calories would really help

but that's just my opinion. I'd go down to 2.5:1 and see what happens.

Hopefully soon you'll get some good results.

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Ann,

You mentioned you're lowering the Depakote. Are you sure all this isn't

withdrawl seizures? Weaning meds can get pretty ugly. Much worse before it

gets better. is not on depakote so I'm not sure whether 125mg is a big

drop or not. I am sure that you're weaning very quickly. A drop every 5 days

is extremely fast. 's not getting time for his brain to recoup

between drops. Most people on this list wait at least 2 weeks between

reductions.

If I was in your shoes, I think I'd hold steady for a couple weeks. No new

med reductions, no new ratio, no drop in calories. Give 's brain a

chance to stabilize. 3:0 is a reasonable ratio (though my guess is, you'll

be able to go even lower). I don't think calories are too high at a quick

glance. I'd get a good accurate weight and check it once a week--same time,

same clothes, same scale, to really see if he's really gaining weight (which

can increase sz). 5 days at a new ratio is not very long. Plus add the

depakote wean.... 's brain is likely in turmoil now.

It's best to look at the diet as a long-term solution, rather than a

short-term fix. It'll keep you from getting impatient. I know that's hard

for you considering how rough you've had it, but it's really best to go

slowly. You're better off going too slowly than too quickly. Take it from me

who weaned 's meds too quickly and sent the poor kid into what was

probably nonconvulsive status! We had to go back on the meds because he was

doing so poorly. He's fine now and doing great, but now we'll have to wait a

while to try again.

ashley

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To: ketogenic

Subject: update

Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2002, 9:25 AM

<<He still hates eating, but it's a tiny bit better. I guess. I'm not

sure actually that it is better yet. This is the 5th day on 3:0:1.

I'm thinking of lowering his calories by 100 calories per day. Do you

all think that might help him? He's not losing any weight on the

current calories (1820 per day - he weighs 32kilos) Actually, he may

have gained a pound or 2.>>

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Ann, This is great advice from . We did wean my son from depakote. It

takes a long time. Only change one thing at a time and then wait at least two

weeks. You can tell much better what is affecting what, and things will go

smoother.

Bob

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Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2002, 9:25 AM

<<He still hates eating, but it's a tiny bit better. I guess. I'm not

sure actually that it is better yet. This is the 5th day on 3:0:1.

I'm thinking of lowering his calories by 100 calories per day. Do you

all think that might help him? He's not losing any weight on the

current calories (1820 per day - he weighs 32kilos) Actually, he may

have gained a pound or 2.>>

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You need to get off the drugs. By slowing the wean you are only

prolonging the seizures. Weaning does cause seizures! We were like you too,

and everyone kept telling us what I am telling you know. When you get him

off the drugs, he may become seizure free. Our daughter did.

Diane

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Thanks Diane. It's very tortuous right now and hard to keep faith in

this. Especially sleep deprived.. ! But thanks for your experience. I

don't think we will go down this road again, so we better be sure we

did everything possible to get the diet to work before we quit.

Thanks.. Ann

> You need to get off the drugs. By slowing the wean you are

only

> prolonging the seizures. Weaning does cause seizures! We were

like you too,

> and everyone kept telling us what I am telling you know. When you

get him

> off the drugs, he may become seizure free. Our daughter did.

> Diane

>

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