RE: the program

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I understand your fears because I was scared too and I found that the fear became less for me the more my body got more comfortable with IE . I will probably always struggle but that is part of IE too because nothing worth doing ever comes easy. This is just my opinion since you asked hear it comes I think that if the program is hurting your feelings even though unintentional and you come out depressed instead of encouraged after a meeting then it is making things worse for you. I think I know which program you are talking about and if that is the one I think one of their plans is much like IE even though restrictive giving you a list of things to eat. Try that plan only eating when you are hungry and stopping when you are satisfied or full and see how that works for you and as your body gets adjusted you will feel less fearful about IE. Eva

I could use some feedback.

I joined a "program" last year which started me on my journey of weight lost. I found the program to be very helpful. I was a part of a supportive group which offered me accountability. However, all along the way, I knew the "program" was not the answer to my problems. There were plenty of weeks where I would "weigh in", and experience a range of emotions from joy to fear. I would go down in my weight (#) after a week of crazy, uncontrollable eating; or I would go up in weight after a week of being very disciplined. Meanwhile, I knew, I would not follow a "program" for the rest of my life. Sure the "program" talks about "lifestyle", but, what they offer looks more like a program.

All of these things told me that healthy eating was not something I could achieve with specific good or bad behaviors. I learned there is a process to all of this, and I surrendered to the process.

After a year and half later, after releasing over 75 pounds, I am still seeing internal problems (I've discussed these before).

I am trying to decide whether or not to "quit the program", or stick with it.

I find the program to, at times, promote hurtful thinking. Even though they don't mean to. I don't want to think about the "success" of weight loss or the "challenge" of exercise for the rest of my life. Sorry, but that's not a lifestyle I want!!

And yet, this "program" has served me well.

sigh....

I just want to be. And yet, I know, I will need to work on this for the rest of my life. I guess it's the "this" that I an trying to figure out.

I know IE focuses on getting rid of the diet mentality. Well I am scared to give up my "program" because I don't want to gain this weight back. And yet, I think the program is too demanding for me.

Lord, show me the way...

Thanks for listening.

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Hi Kathy, sounds like you've made a lot of progress over the last couple years. I'm so proud of you. I understand the fear of giving that up and trying something new. Below, I have written my comments in bold.

To: IntuitiveEating_Support From: kakonrath@...Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:18:52 -0800Subject: the "program"

I could use some feedback.

I joined a "program" last year which started me on my journey of weight lost. I found the program to be very helpful. I was a part of a supportive group which offered me accountability. However, all along the way, I knew the "program" was not the answer to my problems. There were plenty of weeks where I would "weigh in", and experience a range of emotions from joy to fear. I would go down in my weight (#) after a week of crazy, uncontrollable eating; or I would go up in weight after a week of being very disciplined.

First of all, the scale has a tendency to create all kinds of undo stress. If this is true for you, may I suggest that you get rid of it. Can you do your current program without doing the weigh-in??(Keep in mind, this is coming from a person who would weigh herself 3+ times a day. I can't even explain the freedom I felt just from not being a slave to the scale.) Meanwhile, I knew, I would not follow a "program" for the rest of my life. Sure the "program" talks about "lifestyle", but, what they offer looks more like a program. There are many different "lifestyles" out there. Every diet offers a "lifestyle" Is the one they are offering one that you can live with??

All of these things told me that healthy eating was not something I could achieve with specific good or bad behaviors. I learned there is a process to all of this, and I surrendered to the process.

After a year and half later, after releasing over 75 pounds, I am still seeing internal problems (I've discussed these before).

I am trying to decide whether or not to "quit the program", or stick with it.

I find the program to, at times, promote hurtful thinking. I think you know this, but to be successful you need support and encouragement. Living healthy is hard enough, you don't need to beat yourself up for every little mistake made. Even though they don't mean to. I don't want to think about the "success" of weight loss or the "challenge" of exercise for the rest of my life. Sorry, but that's not a lifestyle I want!!

For me, it came down to what I really wanted my goals to be. Am I eating to lose weight or am I eating to be healthy?? Am I exercising because I want to burn the extra calories to lose weight, or am I exercising because it makes me feel good?? Believe me, it does make a difference. I find my exercise routine much more satisfying when I am doing to feel good. And in turn I feel more energized during and after a workout if I've been feeding my body what wants, rather than what I think it wants. (Which many times turns out to be less than what it needs.)

And yet, this "program" has served me well.

sigh....

I just want to be. And yet, I know, I will need to work on this for the rest of my life. I guess it's the "this" that I an trying to figure out.

I know IE focuses on getting rid of the diet mentality. Well I am scared to give up my "program" because I don't want to gain this weight back. And yet, I think the program is too demanding for me.

Again, I think you need to assess what your goals are. Are you wanting to lose weight or are you wanting to be healthy? Many times we get those two confused. We want lose weight so we can be healthy, but when our goal is health, and making peace with food, losing weight is many times a pleasant side effect;) Does your current program support your goals??

Lord, show me the way...

Thanks for listening.

Well, that's about it for my ramblings. My apologies if it wasn't what you were looking for. Just know that whatever you do, you deserve the best!!!

God Bless,

Dayna:)

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Dayna-

Very helpful feedback. Thank you.

Subject: RE: the "program"To: intuitiveeating_support Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 10:51 AM

Hi Kathy, sounds like you've made a lot of progress over the last couple years. I'm so proud of you. I understand the fear of giving that up and trying something new. Below, I have written my comments in bold.

To: IntuitiveEating_ Support@yahoogro ups.comFrom: kakonrathyahoo (DOT) comDate: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:18:52 -0800Subject: [intuitiveEating_ Support] the "program"

I could use some feedback.

I joined a "program" last year which started me on my journey of weight lost. I found the program to be very helpful. I was a part of a supportive group which offered me accountability. However, all along the way, I knew the "program" was not the answer to my problems. There were plenty of weeks where I would "weigh in", and experience a range of emotions from joy to fear. I would go down in my weight (#) after a week of crazy, uncontrollable eating; or I would go up in weight after a week of being very disciplined.

First of all, the scale has a tendency to create all kinds of undo stress. If this is true for you, may I suggest that you get rid of it. Can you do your current program without doing the weigh-in??(Keep in mind, this is coming from a person who would weigh herself 3+ times a day. I can't even explain the freedom I felt just from not being a slave to the scale.) Meanwhile, I knew, I would not follow a "program" for the rest of my life. Sure the "program" talks about "lifestyle", but, what they offer looks more like a program. There are many different "lifestyles" out there. Every diet offers a "lifestyle" Is the one they are offering one that you can live with??

All of these things told me that healthy eating was not something I could achieve with specific good or bad behaviors. I learned there is a process to all of this, and I surrendered to the process.

After a year and half later, after releasing over 75 pounds, I am still seeing internal problems (I've discussed these before).

I am trying to decide whether or not to "quit the program", or stick with it.

I find the program to, at times, promote hurtful thinking. I think you know this, but to be successful you need support and encouragement. Living healthy is hard enough, you don't need to beat yourself up for every little mistake made. Even though they don't mean to. I don't want to think about the "success" of weight loss or the "challenge" of exercise for the rest of my life. Sorry, but that's not a lifestyle I want!!

For me, it came down to what I really wanted my goals to be. Am I eating to lose weight or am I eating to be healthy?? Am I exercising because I want to burn the extra calories to lose weight, or am I exercising because it makes me feel good?? Believe me, it does make a difference. I find my exercise routine much more satisfying when I am doing to feel good. And in turn I feel more energized during and after a workout if I've been feeding my body what wants, rather than what I think it wants. (Which many times turns out to be less than what it needs.)

And yet, this "program" has served me well.

sigh....

I just want to be. And yet, I know, I will need to work on this for the rest of my life. I guess it's the "this" that I an trying to figure out.

I know IE focuses on getting rid of the diet mentality. Well I am scared to give up my "program" because I don't want to gain this weight back. And yet, I think the program is too demanding for me.

Again, I think you need to assess what your goals are. Are you wanting to lose weight or are you wanting to be healthy? Many times we get those two confused. We want lose weight so we can be healthy, but when our goal is health, and making peace with food, losing weight is many times a pleasant side effect;) Does your current program support your goals??

Lord, show me the way...

Thanks for listening.

Well, that's about it for my ramblings. My apologies if it wasn't what you were looking for. Just know that whatever you do, you deserve the best!!!

God Bless,

Dayna:)

You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. See how