Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 im neqw too nice to meat u jay >From: cougargirl1964@... >Reply-To: diabetes_int >To: diabetes_int >Subject: new member >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:21:13 EST > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 Jo, welcome. What was your last hbA1c, so we can get an idea of how your control is coming along. Barb -- Name:Jo Chapman -- Age: -- Location: (country,city/state/province/etc.) Tallapoosa, ga -- When diagnosed:3 weeks ago -- Type of diabetes:type 2 -- Current medications:actos -- Are you on a diet program? What type?:1800 calorie low carb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 Hi, Jo, welcome to the list and thanks for your intro. Now...do you have any specific questions for us? What kind of food plan are you following? What was your A1C on diagnosis? Are you exercising daily? Vicki In a message dated 11/22/2002 8:30:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cougargirl1964@... writes: > What you're looking for in this list:to get support > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2002 Report Share Posted November 23, 2002 oops, I see you did answer my question about food plan in your intro. So...how is it working for you? Vicki In a message dated 11/22/2002 8:30:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cougargirl1964@... writes: > What you're looking for in this list:to get support > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Jo McKnight wrote: > > Since this is typically the way spammers get started on a list, I am > astounded you guys are so eager to have him on board. > > Don't you think with diabetes being a major killer in the USA, that > if a cure had been developed, it would be all over the media???? > > Or am I too much of a cynic. > > Jo Not at all! Then again I believe that Detroit has the capability to make cars which get way better gas mileage than they do now, but someone's money is keeping them from doing so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Well, I am, kind of. A cynic, that is. After being a list mom for several years, and being on the computer for seven years, I can get along without the Snake Oil People. I prefer not to encourage them in anyway at all. I HATE that they have my e-mail address because I am betting mostly what he is doing is collecting live addresses to sell. And before too long, we will start getting real goofy mail, maybe nasty stuff, and lots of it! I would rather play with the genuine people on our list who have given me so much good information, and let the phony guys fall by the way side. So, while I am trying real hard to " lighten up " I doubt I will on this one subject. Jo At 06:51 PM 1/4/03 -0800, you wrote: >Jo, I do not think that you are a cynic. We jall know the guy is a phoney - >but have challened him/her to come forward. So far, nada which just adds >fuel to the fire. You know, sometimes it is just the thrill of the chase. > > Jo in Minnesota http://pages.ivillage.com/josiem38/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2003 Report Share Posted February 9, 2003 Hi, Pam...no reason to post offlist to you. We let it all hang out here <g>. And there are quite a few other diabetics with depressive problems on this list, so I'm sure you'll find support in both areas. Please tell us something about yourself. What was your initial A1C? What medication are you now taking? How is it working? How many times a day do you test? What kind of food plan are you following? Have you read the books by Dr. Bernstein and Gretchen Becker yet? (That's enough questions to start off with, smile) Vicki In a message dated 02/09/2003 12:20:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time, pjtj2003@... writes: > > Hi. My name is Pam and I just discovered last week that I am a > diabetic. My mother was for over 40 years, and although I don't > remember that much about when she first got treatment, at the end > before she died she was on 2 shots of humulin a day. > > Anyway, I'm also tackling bipolar (toward the depressive side) and the > overweight. > > Just wanted to say hi...and if anyone wants to email me, you can at > Pam at mtndewkid@.... > > If anyone has questions or pointers, feel free to respond. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 In a message dated 10/20/04 5:09:49 AM, VulvarDisorders writes: << I was diagnosed with vulvar vestibulitis 1 month ago. I would like to know if anyone has this problem. On my visit to the doctor he gave me a shot (I don't know what it was called) to numb my nerves on the left inside of the vulvar area. Now that he has done this I have no clitoris stimulation, >> Hi , It sounds like he injected some form of Lidocaine, which is an older treatment option. It doesn't have much of a success rate on the vv/vvs lists. Is he a specialist in vv/vvs? It also sounds like the injections have interfered with your gland lubrication production, you might try applying emu oil or aloe gelDe to stimulate them. Since you have deeper pain and no feeling with your clitoris, I wouldn't have the injections again. <<He told me to apply the lidocaine 5% cream an hour before intercourse, this doesn't work either. Any suggestions from anyone? >> If you apply Lidocaine more than 15 minutes before sex, it won't work. Emla cream (a form of Lidocaine) which has to be bought from Canada or compounded in the U.S. needs to be applied an hour before. Emla cream has a better reputation of keeping vvs women pain free during sex than Lidocaine 5%. Since you already have Lidocaine 5% ointment, I'd suggest searching the archives for posts concerning the Lidocaine Cotton Ball treatment. Many of us are having a lot of success with it. Debbie Tiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Scary, indeed! I would imagine the botox would work to relax the muscles, just as it does when injected in the face to " ease " wrinkles. Think I, personally, would want a whole lot more info, before taking either route. When I ran out of options, my Dr. suggested PT. I believe there are some who have had luck with acupuncture which was his second suggestion, if the the PT didn't work out. Maybe you need another opinion. Good luck! Ruth (Ruthiema) > At this time my doctor said my only options are to > have surgery or I could participate in a study he was > conducting. Botox injections around the opening to > the vagina. These 2 options are frightening to me. > If anyone has any further information on surgery and > or botox injections I would love to hear about it. > > S yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Scary, indeed! I would imagine the botox would work to relax the muscles, just as it does when injected in the face to " ease " wrinkles. Think I, personally, would want a whole lot more info, before taking either route. When I ran out of options, my Dr. suggested PT. I believe there are some who have had luck with acupuncture which was his second suggestion, if the the PT didn't work out. Maybe you need another opinion. Good luck! Ruth (Ruthiema) > At this time my doctor said my only options are to > have surgery or I could participate in a study he was > conducting. Botox injections around the opening to > the vagina. These 2 options are frightening to me. > If anyone has any further information on surgery and > or botox injections I would love to hear about it. > > S yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 In a message dated 1/9/05 5:14:31 AM, VulvarDisorders writes: At this time my doctor said my only options are to have surgery or I could participate in a study he was conducting. Botox injections around the opening to the vagina. These 2 options are frightening to me. If anyone has any further information on surgery and or botox injections I would love to hear about it.>> People have asked about the botox injections, so far I haven't read of anyone getting them. While they paralyze muscles - I haven't heard how they would work on inflammation of nerves and tissue - which is what vvs is. Unless your doctor can explain how it will reduce inflammation to your nerves and tissue, I probably wouldn't try it. As for surgery, the success rates are very low - not at all over 90%. Any study with a success rate over 60% did not ask if the surgery resulted in complete pain resolution. Instead women were asked if there was any pain reduction (so if the woman went from her pain being a 10 to an 8 - that was a success) or they asked if she would have the surgery again - never asking about her post surgery pain level. A lot of women who do have the surgery to not have complete pain resolution - instead the pain returns elsewhere or the surgery reduces the pain enough that if the woman takes Elavil or Neurontin she can control it. Estrogen cream alone doesn't do much for vvs. Some women find also using it with testosterone cream and an anti-inflammatory helps. Elavil and Neurontin alone don't do much. Sometimes taking both Elavil and Neurontin can help. Recently on the vvs lists, women are having the most luck with Atropine cream and the Lidocaine Cotton Ball (LCB) treatment. Some are doing both, some just one. I use both and can have pain free sex and prevent post sex burning. You can find information about both in the archives. Some women use Atropine cream and Estrogen cream, using one in the morning and the other at night. There are also quite a few other treatments you can try before considering botox injections. There's also Elavil compounded into a cream that works for a lot of women (at least according to my compounding pharmacist), Neurontin compounded into a cream, anti-inflammatories like Celebrex and Motrin and prescription antihistamines. I'd try the LCB treatment next. You can try it along with the estrogen. If you have had problems with yeast infections in the past, I think most women find it shouldn't be used in the vagina. You can find information about that in the archives too. Usually it's a combination of treatments that works for vvs. Debbie Tiger "My posts go generally unnoticed, I think. Except by the really cool people." - N., 12/3/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Let me ask you a question about IEP and the so-called cluster approach. I have a difficulty in doing the math. If a child is approved, for example, for special instruction in speech for 30 mins per day, how is he getting his 30mins per session if there are other children in the 30 min class. IEP does not mention class size. And how can they change the class size of that class without getting the approval of the parents of those children because in changing the class size, you change the amount of instruction each child receives. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Marva Knight Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:19 PM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Hello, Yes I am a teacher in Broward,specifically, I am a teacher of students with Autism. This year I am the Autism Coach and Instructional coach for two first year teachers at a new cluster site as well as a writing professor at the local community college a few nights a week. I have to say that the most important role that I have is that I am a mother of a beautiful little boy with Autism. With all the experience that I have received in the classroom and all that trainings that I have attended, the most important and eye opening lessons have been learned at home with my son. New member Hello All, I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustin Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:40 AM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Does the child also receive private Speech services and Occupational Therapy? OT can also improve symptoms of apraxia as apraxia is generally a global issue. Is the child receiving Verbal Behavior services? Have you and other family members been trained in Verbal Behavior? ANSWER: He presently receives SP, OT and ABA-DT. Daughter decided last year not to put him in a group setting because he wouldn’t learn in this type of setting. The school district’s approach is to have him learn in a group setting first. After all, every other disabled child learns in a group setting, why not autism? I call the answer the “shoe fits all syndrome” vs. the “Unique needs” requirement. For my grandson, the apraxia is more disabling than the autism. My daughter works with his son whenever she has the time. You have to realize she works fulltime and is raising another child, as well. I feel the therapy is better performed by someone already trained/educated and qualified in the needed area. Parents have the potential of becoming excellent therapists but also have the potential of becoming very poor therapists. In any case a school district wouldn’t hire a home trained parent to be a therapist because they don’t meet the qualifications. Yes, language and speech are complementary to each other and the learning of each supports the other. His IEP indicates he will receive 30 minutes per week of Speech, correct? And, is it an assumption that this service will occur in the classroom or was that stated in the meeting? Did they provide a reason for why and did anyone ask otherwise? Remember that any service provided to a child in public school is to help them access their academic environment. Any goal written has to have that purpose in mind. Answer: Actually I’m referring to another situation as well where the child is in a Place Program. His sessions are 30 minutes per session and that is how his IEP reads. But he is in a special class with 6 other children. I’m having problems with the math. If you are not satisfied, call for an interim meeting... I think I understand your concern in that the service is supposed to be for the child, but it is provided in the classroom, therefore the child does not appear to receive all they are entitled to. B/c the therapist can document they provided the service to all of the children and be done for the week, is that correct? Answer: I want to ensure if the child is granted 30 minutes per day , he himself receives it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heifferon To: sList Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: RE: New member I am referring to Speech. He is a three year old soon to be 4. He is a severe autistic child with apraxia. Will probably go into complex place program in August. He has good language skills but extremely poor speech. You can’t adequately address the language without addressing speech. In fact a child with a language deficit will learn language faster if speech is addressed first or at the same time. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustin Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:11 AM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Are you being specific about speech or are you possibly referring to langauge? Speech would be for problems with articulation, etc.... Language is related to pragmatics. In the case of language why would you want your child to recieve that in a pull-out setting with just the therapist? The goal is to get the kids talking to others in social situations and acros settings. That is the concept of the group setting. So, essentially yes, other kids are getting it too. But you can request data sheets to determine specifically what your child is receiving. ALL of our kids should be receiving language... This service very often ceases after pre-k but needs to continue throughout elementary and beyond. New member Hello All, I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Your daughter should not be the primary teacher for her children. As you stated, yes, there should be qualified therapists working with your grandson to address his needs. In addition to that, we have here in NY required by law for a child diagnosed with autism “parent training.” This service is provided by a qualified therapist who works with the parents/caregivers/siblings to help in generalizing the skills already taught to the student. Is your grandson always in a group setting for speech? Does he receive speech on an individual basis also? From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Heifferon Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:42 PM To: sList Subject: RE: New member From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustin Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:40 AM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Does the child also receive private Speech services and Occupational Therapy? OT can also improve symptoms of apraxia as apraxia is generally a global issue. Is the child receiving Verbal Behavior services? Have you and other family members been trained in Verbal Behavior? ANSWER: He presently receives SP, OT and ABA-DT. Daughter decided last year not to put him in a group setting because he wouldn’t learn in this type of setting. The school district’s approach is to have him learn in a group setting first. After all, every other disabled child learns in a group setting, why not autism? I call the answer the “shoe fits all syndrome” vs. the “Unique needs” requirement. For my grandson, the apraxia is more disabling than the autism. My daughter works with his son whenever she has the time. You have to realize she works fulltime and is raising another child, as well. I feel the therapy is better performed by someone already trained/educated and qualified in the needed area. Parents have the potential of becoming excellent therapists but also have the potential of becoming very poor therapists. In any case a school district wouldn’t hire a home trained parent to be a therapist because they don’t meet the qualifications. Yes, language and speech are complementary to each other and the learning of each supports the other. His IEP indicates he will receive 30 minutes per week of Speech, correct? And, is it an assumption that this service will occur in the classroom or was that stated in the meeting? Did they provide a reason for why and did anyone ask otherwise? Remember that any service provided to a child in public school is to help them access their academic environment. Any goal written has to have that purpose in mind. Answer: Actually I’m referring to another situation as well where the child is in a Place Program. His sessions are 30 minutes per session and that is how his IEP reads. But he is in a special class with 6 other children. I’m having problems with the math. If you are not satisfied, call for an interim meeting... I think I understand your concern in that the service is supposed to be for the child, but it is provided in the classroom, therefore the child does not appear to receive all they are entitled to. B/c the therapist can document they provided the service to all of the children and be done for the week, is that correct? Answer: I want to ensure if the child is granted 30 minutes per day , he himself receives it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heifferon To: sList Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 8:31 PM Subject: RE: New member I am referring to Speech. He is a three year old soon to be 4. He is a severe autistic child with apraxia. Will probably go into complex place program in August. He has good language skills but extremely poor speech. You can’t adequately address the language without addressing speech. In fact a child with a language deficit will learn language faster if speech is addressed first or at the same time. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustin Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:11 AM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Are you being specific about speech or are you possibly referring to langauge? Speech would be for problems with articulation, etc.... Language is related to pragmatics. In the case of language why would you want your child to recieve that in a pull-out setting with just the therapist? The goal is to get the kids talking to others in social situations and acros settings. That is the concept of the group setting. So, essentially yes, other kids are getting it too. But you can request data sheets to determine specifically what your child is receiving. ALL of our kids should be receiving language... This service very often ceases after pre-k but needs to continue throughout elementary and beyond. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heifferon To: sList Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: RE: New member Let me ask you a question about IEP and the so-called cluster approach. I have a difficulty in doing the math. If a child is approved, for example, for special instruction in speech for 30 mins per day, how is he getting his 30mins per session if there are other children in the 30 min class. IEP does not mention class size. And how can they change the class size of that class without getting the approval of the parents of those children because in changing the class size, you change the amount of instruction each child receives. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Marva Knight Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:19 PM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Hello, Yes I am a teacher in Broward,specifically, I am a teacher of students with Autism. This year I am the Autism Coach and Instructional coach for two first year teachers at a new cluster site as well as a writing professor at the local community college a few nights a week. I have to say that the most important role that I have is that I am a mother of a beautiful little boy with Autism. With all the experience that I have received in the classroom and all that trainings that I have attended, the most important and eye opening lessons have been learned at home with my son. ----- Original Message ---- From: TinaTerriAustin <austintandtbellsouth (DOT) net> To: sList Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:51:13 AM Subject: Re: New member Welcome Marva! I think it is great a teacher is on this list! ----- Original Message ----- From: Karp To: sList@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:31 AM Subject: RE: New member Welcome, Marva! Are you an ESE teacher here in Broward? -----Original Message----- From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com]On Behalf Of Marva Knight Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:17 PM To: sList@ yahoogroups. com Subject: New member Hello All, I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 New member Hello All,I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I don’t mean to belittle the need to educate a parent on how to duplicate the appropriate services he receives from the educational establishment, but the primary responsibilities to educate comes from that establishment. My grandson has always been in a one-on-one setting for all his therapies. He is in the process of developing an IEP. Since the school district does not accept this approach, it is a main contention for his services. This is the main reason we skipped last year when he turned 3. Of course the school district had the option to continue his IFSP, but they will and not do it. I understand that this is there option. But for a parent it is difficult to understand the difference between 35 months and 36 months. It is as if something magical should have happened when he entered part B. We are no longer in a “medical” model; we enter the educational model, as if one is exclusive of the other. I view the whole situation as a struggle between individual, unique needs of the child and what the school district is willing to do. If the child will not respond to a group instruction what is the alternative? I understand the need for a group environment but his priority should be academic first and foremost. One of the areas that is ignored completely is the social problem. The problem requires a different and proactive approach. Instead of placing the disabled child in an environment with typical children, it should be reversed. We have situations where advanced readers are helping out other children who have reading problems. There should be situations where typical children are placed in the environment of disabled children. It would make for a good educational experience for typical children! It’s just a thought. From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Patti O'Meara Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:53 PM To: sList Subject: RE: New member Your daughter should not be the primary teacher for her children. As you stated, yes, there should be qualified therapists working with your grandson to address his needs. In addition to that, we have here in NY required by law for a child diagnosed with autism “parent training.” This service is provided by a qualified therapist who works with the parents/caregivers/siblings to help in generalizing the skills already taught to the student. Is your grandson always in a group setting for speech? Does he receive speech on an individual basis also? From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Heifferon Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:42 PM To: sList Subject: RE: New member From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustin Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:40 AM To: sList Subject: Re: New member Does the child also receive private Speech services and Occupational Therapy? OT can also improve symptoms of apraxia as apraxia is generally a global issue. Is the child receiving Verbal Behavior services? Have you and other family members been trained in Verbal Behavior? ANSWER: He presently receives SP, OT and ABA-DT. Daughter decided last year not to put him in a group setting because he wouldn’t learn in this type of setting. The school district’s approach is to have him learn in a group setting first. After all, every other disabled child learns in a group setting, why not autism? I call the answer the “shoe fits all syndrome” vs. the “Unique needs” requirement. For my grandson, the apraxia is more disabling than the autism. My daughter works with his son whenever she has the time. You have to realize she works fulltime and is raising another child, as well. I feel the therapy is better performed by someone already trained/educated and qualified in the needed area. Parents have the potential of becoming excellent therapists but also have the potential of becoming very poor therapists. In any case a school district wouldn’t hire a home trained parent to be a therapist because they don’t meet the qualifications. Yes, language and speech are complementary to each other and the learning of each supports the other. His IEP indicates he will receive 30 minutes per week of Speech, correct? And, is it an assumption that this service will occur in the classroom or was that stated in the meeting? Did they provide a reason for why and did anyone ask otherwise? Remember that any service provided to a child in public school is to help them access their academic environment. Any goal written has to have that purpose in mind. Answer: Actually I’m referring to another situation as well where the child is in a Place Program. His sessions are 30 minutes per session and that is how his IEP reads. But he is in a special class with 6 other children. I’m having problems with the math. If you are not satisfied, call for an interim meeting... I think I understand your concern in that the service is supposed to be for the child, but it is provided in the classroom, therefore the child does not appear to receive all they are entitled to. B/c the therapist can document they provided the service to all of the children and be done for the week, is that correct? Answer: I want to ensure if the child is granted 30 minutes per day , he himself receives it. New member Hello All, I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! 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Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 If the child cannot learn in a group setting following group instructions and needs more intense he/she should get that. This is why it is called an INDIVIDUAL E P. This more intense type of therapy is especailly important in the early years when they need it most and it has it's greates impact. Eventually the goal should be to get the child to a point where he/she can follow group instruction and be successful. Just my 2 cents. Subject: RE: New memberTo: sList Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 11:20 AM I don’t mean to belittle the need to educate a parent on how to duplicate the appropriate services he receives from the educational establishment, but the primary responsibilities to educate comes from that establishment. My grandson has always been in a one-on-one setting for all his therapies. He is in the process of developing an IEP. Since the school district does not accept this approach, it is a main contention for his services. This is the main reason we skipped last year when he turned 3. Of course the school district had the option to continue his IFSP, but they will and not do it. I understand that this is there option. But for a parent it is difficult to understand the difference between 35 months and 36 months. It is as if something magical should have happened when he entered part B. We are no longer in a “medical” model; we enter the educational model, as if one is exclusive of the other. I view the whole situation as a struggle between individual, unique needs of the child and what the school district is willing to do. If the child will not respond to a group instruction what is the alternative? I understand the need for a group environment but his priority should be academic first and foremost. One of the areas that is ignored completely is the social problem. The problem requires a different and proactive approach. Instead of placing the disabled child in an environment with typical children, it should be reversed. We have situations where advanced readers are helping out other children who have reading problems. There should be situations where typical children are placed in the environment of disabled children. It would make for a good educational experience for typical children! It’s just a thought. From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Patti O'MearaSent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:53 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: New member Your daughter should not be the primary teacher for her children. As you stated, yes, there should be qualified therapists working with your grandson to address his needs. In addition to that, we have here in NY required by law for a child diagnosed with autism “parent training.” This service is provided by a qualified therapist who works with the parents/caregivers/ siblings to help in generalizing the skills already taught to the student. Is your grandson always in a group setting for speech? Does he receive speech on an individual basis also? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of HeifferonSent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:42 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: New member From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustinSent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:40 AMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: New member Does the child also receive private Speech services and Occupational Therapy? OT can also improve symptoms of apraxia as apraxia is generally a global issue. Is the child receiving Verbal Behavior services? Have you and other family members been trained in Verbal Behavior? ANSWER: He presently receives SP, OT and ABA-DT. Daughter decided last year not to put him in a group setting because he wouldn’t learn in this type of setting. The school district’s approach is to have him learn in a group setting first. After all, every other disabled child learns in a group setting, why not autism? I call the answer the “shoe fits all syndrome” vs. the “Unique needs” requirement. For my grandson, the apraxia is more disabling than the autism. My daughter works with his son whenever she has the time. You have to realize she works fulltime and is raising another child, as well. I feel the therapy is better performed by someone already trained/educated and qualified in the needed area. Parents have the potential of becoming excellent therapists but also have the potential of becoming very poor therapists. In any case a school district wouldn’t hire a home trained parent to be a therapist because they don’t meet the qualifications. Yes, language and speech are complementary to each other and the learning of each supports the other. His IEP indicates he will receive 30 minutes per week of Speech, correct? And, is it an assumption that this service will occur in the classroom or was that stated in the meeting? Did they provide a reason for why and did anyone ask otherwise? Remember that any service provided to a child in public school is to help them access their academic environment. Any goal written has to have that purpose in mind. Answer: Actually I’m referring to another situation as well where the child is in a Place Program. His sessions are 30 minutes per session and that is how his IEP reads. But he is in a special class with 6 other children. I’m having problems with the math. If you are not satisfied, call for an interim meeting... I think I understand your concern in that the service is supposed to be for the child, but it is provided in the classroom, therefore the child does not appear to receive all they are entitled to. B/c the therapist can document they provided the service to all of the children and be done for the week, is that correct? Answer: I want to ensure if the child is granted 30 minutes per day , he himself receives it. New member Hello All,I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Well put… From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of M T C Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:36 PM To: sList Subject: RE: New member If the child cannot learn in a group setting following group instructions and needs more intense he/she should get that. This is why it is called an INDIVIDUAL E P. This more intense type of therapy is especailly important in the early years when they need it most and it has it's greates impact. Eventually the goal should be to get the child to a point where he/she can follow group instruction and be successful. Just my 2 cents. From: Heifferon <gary00001msn> Subject: RE: New member To: sList Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 11:20 AM I don’t mean to belittle the need to educate a parent on how to duplicate the appropriate services he receives from the educational establishment, but the primary responsibilities to educate comes from that establishment. My grandson has always been in a one-on-one setting for all his therapies. He is in the process of developing an IEP. Since the school district does not accept this approach, it is a main contention for his services. This is the main reason we skipped last year when he turned 3. Of course the school district had the option to continue his IFSP, but they will and not do it. I understand that this is there option. But for a parent it is difficult to understand the difference between 35 months and 36 months. It is as if something magical should have happened when he entered part B. We are no longer in a “medical” model; we enter the educational model, as if one is exclusive of the other. I view the whole situation as a struggle between individual, unique needs of the child and what the school district is willing to do. If the child will not respond to a group instruction what is the alternative? I understand the need for a group environment but his priority should be academic first and foremost. One of the areas that is ignored completely is the social problem. The problem requires a different and proactive approach. Instead of placing the disabled child in an environment with typical children, it should be reversed. We have situations where advanced readers are helping out other children who have reading problems. There should be situations where typical children are placed in the environment of disabled children. It would make for a good educational experience for typical children! It’s just a thought. From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Patti O'Meara Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:53 PM To: sList@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: New member Your daughter should not be the primary teacher for her children. As you stated, yes, there should be qualified therapists working with your grandson to address his needs. In addition to that, we have here in NY required by law for a child diagnosed with autism “parent training.” This service is provided by a qualified therapist who works with the parents/caregivers/ siblings to help in generalizing the skills already taught to the student. Is your grandson always in a group setting for speech? Does he receive speech on an individual basis also? From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Heifferon Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:42 PM To: sList@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: New member From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:sList @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of TinaTerriAustin Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:40 AM To: sList@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: New member Does the child also receive private Speech services and Occupational Therapy? OT can also improve symptoms of apraxia as apraxia is generally a global issue. Is the child receiving Verbal Behavior services? Have you and other family members been trained in Verbal Behavior? ANSWER: He presently receives SP, OT and ABA-DT. Daughter decided last year not to put him in a group setting because he wouldn’t learn in this type of setting. The school district’s approach is to have him learn in a group setting first. After all, every other disabled child learns in a group setting, why not autism? I call the answer the “shoe fits all syndrome” vs. the “Unique needs” requirement. For my grandson, the apraxia is more disabling than the autism. My daughter works with his son whenever she has the time. You have to realize she works fulltime and is raising another child, as well. I feel the therapy is better performed by someone already trained/educated and qualified in the needed area. Parents have the potential of becoming excellent therapists but also have the potential of becoming very poor therapists. In any case a school district wouldn’t hire a home trained parent to be a therapist because they don’t meet the qualifications. Yes, language and speech are complementary to each other and the learning of each supports the other. His IEP indicates he will receive 30 minutes per week of Speech, correct? And, is it an assumption that this service will occur in the classroom or was that stated in the meeting? Did they provide a reason for why and did anyone ask otherwise? Remember that any service provided to a child in public school is to help them access their academic environment. Any goal written has to have that purpose in mind. Answer: Actually I’m referring to another situation as well where the child is in a Place Program. His sessions are 30 minutes per session and that is how his IEP reads. But he is in a special class with 6 other children. I’m having problems with the math. If you are not satisfied, call for an interim meeting... I think I understand your concern in that the service is supposed to be for the child, but it is provided in the classroom, therefore the child does not appear to receive all they are entitled to. B/c the therapist can document they provided the service to all of the children and be done for the week, is that correct? Answer: I want to ensure if the child is granted 30 minutes per day , he himself receives it. New member Hello All, I am a new user on s List! I am an ESE teacher of children with autism and I'm excited to gather as much information as possible! Glad to be here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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