Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hi, I've been reading, trying to figure out why you can ferment the yogurt longer to remove the lactose, but was wondering why you could not do the same with buttermilk. Then I found out that you CAN ferment kefir longer and it is then okay to drink, just like the yogurt. I love homemade Kefir, so I am going to order some grains. But I was just wondering about the buttermilk, if anyones knows. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks, there's so much info I seem to be drowning. Now I find out I have the wrong Farmer's cheese. I got my yogurt maker and found some yogurt for a starter, so that is an accomplishment. Thanks, Susie Beginner Misty Kimble wrote: Pecanbread.com has some great information on starting SCD. There is a table about midway down the page on the first link below which outlines the most tolerable way for most people to intro food; however, kefir isn't listed. I'm not sure about the book. I follow the guideline very religiously since Feb 5 and still keep going back to the intro phase because it seems like everytime I try to add something from Phase 1 besides cooked carrots and apples I have problems for a few days. Even though yogurt and DCCC are listed as intro items, I still can't eat them without having a setback. However, I'm off my meds and my symptoms are so much better. I didn't start doing the intro diet on Jan 5 and continued to have so many problems. The day after I started the intro diet, the pain in my gut went away totally!!!!!!!!! It was awesome. Here is the link to the intro diet and the table of how to intro food on the pecanbread site. http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#intro Also here is a link to SCD and fermented products from the same site. http://www.pecanbread.com/new/fermented1.html Lastly, here is the link to the intro diet on the BTVC.info site which gives more specific instructions on preparing the intro meals. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/the_intro_diet2.htm The cheesecake is really good, but the combo of the yogurt and cheese don't agree with my gut. ***sighing***. It was so yummy with cooked apples/honey/butter/cinnamon on top of it. Hope this info helps. Misty Kimble , LA CD SCD - Jan 5 08 Susie <hayley3psci (DOT) net> wrote: Hi Katy, I am just starting reading the book. Is that info in the book? Susie kplattjuno wrote: Susie, Kefir is not advised until alot of healing has already taken place. Kefir is a fermented drink, that is why you use the grains. Katy Hi, I've been reading, trying to figure out why you can ferment the yogurt longer to remove the lactose, but was wondering why you could not do the same with buttermilk. Then I found out that you CAN ferment kefir longer and it is then okay to drink, just like the yogurt. I love homemade Kefir, so I am going to order some grains. But I was just wondering about the buttermilk, if anyones knows. Susie _____________________________________________________________ Shop & save on a huge selection of bathroom accessories. Click now! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 At 08:27 AM 2/24/2008, you wrote: I've been reading, trying to figure out why you can ferment the yogurt longer to remove the lactose, but was wondering why you could not do the same with buttermilk. Then I found out that you CAN ferment kefir longer and it is then okay to drink, just like the yogurt. I love homemade Kefir, so I am going to order some grains. But I was just wondering about the buttermilk, if anyones knows. Kefir is an advanced food, not suitable for someone who is just beginning the diet. It has a mix of yeasts and bacteria. Initially, we what just the three well-studied strains in our yogurt. Buttermilk is the by product of (tah-dah!) making butter. Most commercial buttermilk these days has modified food starch or guar gum in it to make it seem richer and thicker. It is NOT legal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 At 09:57 AM 2/24/2008, you wrote: Thanks, there's so much info I seem to be drowning. Now I find out I have the wrong Farmer's cheese. I got my yogurt maker and found some yogurt for a starter, so that is an accomplishment. Susie, Feeling like you're drowning is a common experience when first starting the diet. If it's any consolation, it will soon feel second nature to you, and then you'll be looking at the really new people and thinking, " Why are they asking about THAT? It's so OBVIOUS! " <grin> — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thank you Marilyn! I couldn't believe my eyes when I just read the ingredients on my buttermilk. I had no idea. I had to get my reading glasses out, because the print was soooo small. And this is what it says: Lowfat milk, mono and diglycerides, carob bean gum, carrageenan, modified food starch, polysorbate 80, vit a & d. I am mortified!!!! I gave up modified food starch in November. I had no idea I was still eating it!!! Geez, can't they leave anything alone. Thanks, Susie Beginner SCD Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote: At 08:27 AM 2/24/2008, you wrote: I've been reading, trying to figure out why you can ferment the yogurt longer to remove the lactose, but was wondering why you could not do the same with buttermilk. Then I found out that you CAN ferment kefir longer and it is then okay to drink, just like the yogurt. I love homemade Kefir, so I am going to order some grains. But I was just wondering about the buttermilk, if anyones knows. Kefir is an advanced food, not suitable for someone who is just beginning the diet. It has a mix of yeasts and bacteria. Initially, we what just the three well-studied strains in our yogurt. Buttermilk is the by product of (tah-dah!) making butter. Most commercial buttermilk these days has modified food starch or guar gum in it to make it seem richer and thicker. It is NOT legal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 At 01:13 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote: Geez, can't they leave anything alone. Susie, Nope! There was a vanilla extract which I had used for years and years and years. (McCormick's, in case you're interested.) I still have a box from the old stuff which says: Ingredients -- alcohol, vanilla bean extractives. The NEW IMPROVED ONE says alcohol, high fructose corn syrup, vanilla bean extractives. Did you know that most commercial chicken broth has high fructose corn syrup in it? Even the really neat organic stuff has " evaporated cane juice, " which is just a fancy way of saying " sugar. " Any wonder why gut issues and obesity are rampant in the modern world? And so, we make our own..... — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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