Re: Introducing Foods & Gaining Weight, was: posting here too

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Avocados are a wonderful food, with lots of good fats in them and vitamins and so forth. Like bananas, however, they need to be ripe.  Here's a link which has all you need to know about selecting, ripening, and preparing avocados.I missed the link. Did you forget it?Carol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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Avocados are a wonderful food,

with lots of good fats in them and vitamins and so forth. Like bananas,

however, they need to be ripe. Here's a link which has all you need

to know about selecting, ripening, and preparing

avocados.

Curious. The link didn't come through. It's in my out-box copy. Oh well,

let's try again. Maybe Yahoo hiccupped.

http://www.avocado.org/about/fruit_selection.php

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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> >hi all I posted at the regular site but noone is there???

>

> Eileen,

>

> Welcome to this list. It's possible, since it was

> a weekend, that people are off having fun. <g>

> SCD is like that. You get better, and you don't

> spend all your time glued to your computer trying

> to figure out how to get well. <grin> Except for

> some of us nut-brained old-timers who stick around to help!

LOL!! there was always someone there - weird??? anyway I think I

explained some stuff wrong but wil try to say it better and thanks

for all the actual calorie advice - how do I figure how many calories

I'm getting though?

I've had a food /BM /feelings & times diary since oct - way before

scd - but still keeping it

I am only adding one at a time -I had done vitamins etc but even

backed off those and am doing one new anything at a time - I was

tolerating olive oil so I just added more (not new though) and it was

a tiny chunk of cheddar that I reacted too but after trying again I

didn't seem too??? I'll wait to add yoghurt - I'm making for the

first time tonight-until I feel ok tomorrow night with the extra oil

in

my basic day is

banana pancake with homemade applesauce (adding honey now) not new

but i had it separate and now will put it right in or lean beef

steak/egg

1 fat chicken breast pureed cooked carrots apple/pearsauce drizzled

with oil now

chicken soup with chicken in

chicken meal from above again

banana with honey

porterhouse steak 1 lb

2 hardboiled eggs

I am on Entecort (steroid)for 4 more weeks and taking digest gold

with each meal

drinking water or 1/2 water half white grape

awating results of Givens capsule camera swallowing test

dx with celiac and crohn's but new doc is iffy about crohns thinks

bad celiac maybe??? gastroparesis - can scd help that???

not bad symptoms of either just nausea (that is horrible but could be

much worse I'm sure)

many symptoms are going but dizziness and blood flowing to hands when

the slightest bit of exposure to heat are freaking me out

thanks for listening

what do you think calorie wise of what I'm eating????

THANKS SO MUCH

eileen

scd 4 weeks

>

> >> i'm 4 weeks scd - symptoms going but not

> gaining weight- so I added a little cheddar

> cheese last night and this morning and a bit of

> olive oil/honey to everything all day <<

>

> Well, there's one of your first mistakes. You

> added two items at the same time. One thing I've

> noticed is that while some oil is good for adding

> calories, going overboard on it can be a mistake.

> Kim, for instance, doesn't tolerate a lot of fat.

> I do tolerate a fair amount of butter and oil,

> but if I drizzled olive oil on everything all

> day, it would pretty well lubricate everything

> and, er, send it sliding right on out!

>

> >> all i can have now is chicken steak carrots

> apple/pear sauce eggs honey diluted white grape

> juice (tried almond butter and green beans - no

> good) i eat every 2 hours - lots of food <<

>

> Just to make sure I understand what you're eating, it's

>

> chicken and steak (like beef steak?)

>

> not chicken steak, ie, steaks made out of

> chicken, say, by pounding them, correct?

>

> apple or pear sauce -- this is home made, correct?

>

> honey

>

> diluted white grape juice (what level of

> dilution? How many parts juice to how many parts water?)

>

> How well cooked were the green beans? Did you try

> cooking them extra, and then pureeing them to the consistency of

baby food?

>

> >> i eat every 2 hours - lots of food i'm down

> to 86 lbs 5'4 and need to gain - i've been told

> avocado so got one today how do I prepare it -

> don't think i'll like it but wil eat it :-)i'll

> do anything feeling better but very nervous about

> the weight and doc etc saying

> not to do scd if i'm not gaining <<

>

> I fully understand eating every two hours! That's

> what I did for the first two months I was on SCD.

> I rotated, one food at a time. Eggs and butter

> for breakfast. Two hours later, 2-4 ounces of

> roasted meat. Two hours later, well-steamed,

> peeled zucchini with a bit of butter and salt.

> Two hours later, 2-4 ounces of the other roasted

> meat. Two hours later, either zucchini or eggs

> again. And repeat. I did add a small amount of

> grated cheddar to the zucchini somewhere around

> the end of week one or two, but you'll notice

> that I wasn't eating cheese each time I ate something.

>

> The legal electrolyte drink hadn't been invented

> yet, by I sort-of made my own with the juice and

> assorted minerals. (Wish I'd known about the concentrate Kim found.)

>

> >> PS the cheddar made first bm less formed and

> i got a bit crampy - gone now and had formed bm

> since - do I keep it in??? and i'm a bit uncomfy

> " full feeling " from everything else - need to add

> stuff but want to feel good too help please <<

>

> Are you sure it was the cheddar, since you added

> a lot of oil at the same time? How much cheddar were you actually

eating?

>

> You don't want to overtax your system because

> that's a sure ticket to not healing. But notice

> that I wasn't eating much at any given time, yet

> over the course of 24 hours, I was consuming 6

> (Jumbo) eggs, somewhere between 12 and 24 ounces

> of meat, and at least three cups of zucchini.

> This adds up to between 1885 and 2550 calories,

> depending on how much meat I was eating.

>

> If you go back and check one of my posts from

> yesterday, you'll find that a woman needs a

> minimum of 11 calories per pound to function. A

> quick check indicates that your weight should

> probably be between 116 and 130. That means you

> need between 1276 and 1430 calories at your

> proper weight just to keep even with what you

> need to expend to live. If you are at all active,

> you need more than that. In order to gain weight,

> you have to have your basic energy levels, plus

> your activity levels, plus enough calories to

> start adding weight -- and to add one pound a

> week, you must eat at least 500 calories a day

> over your maintenance + activity level.

>

> Avocados are a wonderful food, with lots of good

> fats in them and vitamins and so forth. Like

> bananas, however, they need to be ripe. Here's a

> link which has all you need to know about

> selecting, ripening, and preparing avocados.

>

> Guacamole is a great way, but not just yet, I

> think, since you're eating so few foods. I like

> avocado just ripe, sprinkled with a little salt.

> I have also made " Martian Pudding " out of it,

> with avocado, lemon juice (to keep it from

> turning brown), some honey or saccharin, and some vanilla extract.

>

> Are you keeping a food log about what you are

> eating, when you are eating it, and how much you

> are eating? Also the results -- time and how you felt?

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

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very helpful thanks

eileen

>

>

> >Avocados are a wonderful food, with lots of good

> >fats in them and vitamins and so forth. Like

> >bananas, however, they need to be ripe. Here's

> >a link which has all you need to know about

> >selecting, ripening, and preparing avocados.

>

> Curious. The link didn't come through. It's in my

> out-box copy. Oh well, let's try again. Maybe Yahoo hiccupped.

>

> http://www.avocado.org/about/fruit_selection.php

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

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The link for making avacado isn't there.

Misty Kimble

, LA

Crohn's 7 months

SCD Jan 5 08

Introducing Foods & Gaining Weight, was: posting here too

At 02:20 PM 2/4/2008, you wrote:

hi all I posted at the regular site but noone is there???Eileen,Welcome to this list. It's possible, since it was a weekend, that people are off having fun. <g> SCD is like that. You get better, and you don't spend all your time glued to your computer trying to figure out how to get well. <grin> Except for some of us nut-brained old-timers who stick around to help!>> i'm 4 weeks scd - symptoms going but not gaining weight- so I added a little cheddar cheese last night and this morning and a bit of olive oil/honey to everything all day <<Well, there's one of your first mistakes. You added two items at the same time. One thing I've noticed is that while some oil is good for adding calories, going overboard on it can be a mistake. Kim, for instance, doesn't tolerate a lot of fat. I do tolerate a fair amount of butter and oil, but if I drizzled olive

oil on everything all day, it would pretty well lubricate everything and, er, send it sliding right on out!>> all i can have now is chicken steak carrots apple/pear sauce eggs honey diluted white grape juice (tried almond butter and green beans - no good) i eat every 2 hours - lots of food <<Just to make sure I understand what you're eating, it'schicken and steak (like beef steak?)not chicken steak, ie, steaks made out of chicken, say, by pounding them, correct?apple or pear sauce -- this is home made, correct?honeydiluted white grape juice (what level of dilution? How many parts juice to how many parts water?)How well cooked were the green beans? Did you try cooking them extra, and then pureeing them to the consistency of baby food?>> i eat every 2 hours - lots of food i'm down to 86 lbs 5'4 and need to gain - i've been told avocado so got one today how do I

prepare it - don't think i'll like it but wil eat it :-)i'll do anything feeling better but very nervous about the weight and doc etc saying not to do scd if i'm not gaining <<I fully understand eating every two hours! That's what I did for the first two months I was on SCD. I rotated, one food at a time. Eggs and butter for breakfast. Two hours later, 2-4 ounces of roasted meat. Two hours later, well-steamed, peeled zucchini with a bit of butter and salt. Two hours later, 2-4 ounces of the other roasted meat. Two hours later, either zucchini or eggs again. And repeat. I did add a small amount of grated cheddar to the zucchini somewhere around the end of week one or two, but you'll notice that I wasn't eating cheese each time I ate something.The legal electrolyte drink hadn't been invented yet, by I sort-of made my own with the juice and assorted minerals. (Wish I'd known about the concentrate Kim found.) >> PS

the cheddar made first bm less formed and i got a bit crampy - gone now and had formed bm since - do I keep it in??? and i'm a bit uncomfy "full feeling" from everything else - need to add stuff but want to feel good too help please <<Are you sure it was the cheddar, since you added a lot of oil at the same time? How much cheddar were you actually eating?You don't want to overtax your system because that's a sure ticket to not healing. But notice that I wasn't eating much at any given time, yet over the course of 24 hours, I was consuming 6 (Jumbo) eggs, somewhere between 12 and 24 ounces of meat, and at least three cups of zucchini. This adds up to between 1885 and 2550 calories, depending on how much meat I was eating.If you go back and check one of my posts from yesterday, you'll find that a woman needs a minimum of 11 calories per pound to function. A quick check indicates that your weight should probably be between 116

and 130. That means you need between 1276 and 1430 calories at your proper weight just to keep even with what you need to expend to live. If you are at all active, you need more than that. In order to gain weight, you have to have your basic energy levels, plus your activity levels, plus enough calories to start adding weight -- and to add one pound a week, you must eat at least 500 calories a day over your maintenance + activity level.Avocados are a wonderful food, with lots of good fats in them and vitamins and so forth. Like bananas, however, they need to be ripe. Here's a link which has all you need to know about selecting, ripening, and preparing avocados.Guacamole is a great way, but not just yet, I think, since you're eating so few foods. I like avocado just ripe, sprinkled with a little salt. I have also made "Martian Pudding" out of it, with avocado, lemon juice (to keep it from turning brown), some honey or saccharin, and

some vanilla extract.Are you keeping a food log about what you are eating, when you are eating it, and how much you are eating? Also the results -- time and how you felt?

— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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http://www.avocado.org/about/fruit_selection.phpOn Feb 5, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Misty Kimble wrote:The link for making avacado isn't there. Misty KimbleCarol F.Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergyhttp://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frileghhttp://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm

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At 10:06 PM 2/4/2008, you wrote:

what do you think calorie wise

of what I'm eating????

Well, I could plug all that in to a program I have... but then you won't

learn how to do things for yourself. Go out to Fitday.com, and get

yourself a free account. Then plug in everything you eat in a day, along

with amounts. (Yes, this means measuring the amount of oil you drizzle on

things, too.)

It will break it down into proteins and fats and carbohydrates.

Then you can decide where you need to add things.

Just looking at it, though, you haven't added any well-cooked, and

perhaps pureed vegetables. You're going to need those to begin to get

things regular.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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oh thanks - was wondering how to figure that stuff - i was doing

cooked carrots just pureed for vacation it was easier - will try some

new well cooked veges soon too

thanks eileen

> >what do you think calorie wise of what I'm eating????

>

> Well, I could plug all that in to a program I

> have... but then you won't learn how to do things

> for yourself. Go out to Fitday.com, and get

> yourself a free account. Then plug in everything

> you eat in a day, along with amounts. (Yes, this

> means measuring the amount of oil you drizzle on things, too.)

>

> It will break it down into proteins and fats and carbohydrates.

>

> Then you can decide where you need to add things.

>

> Just looking at it, though, you haven't added any

> well-cooked, and perhaps pureed vegetables.

> You're going to need those to begin to get things regular.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

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just plugged in my stuff and with the added honey 6 slices of cheddar

and oil it says 2961 cal - if i don't gain from that! - but then

again I've never been able to gain - but this should do something -

thanks

eileen 4 weeks scd

> >what do you think calorie wise of what I'm eating????

>

> Well, I could plug all that in to a program I

> have... but then you won't learn how to do things

> for yourself. Go out to Fitday.com, and get

> yourself a free account. Then plug in everything

> you eat in a day, along with amounts. (Yes, this

> means measuring the amount of oil you drizzle on things, too.)

>

> It will break it down into proteins and fats and carbohydrates.

>

> Then you can decide where you need to add things.

>

> Just looking at it, though, you haven't added any

> well-cooked, and perhaps pureed vegetables.

> You're going to need those to begin to get things regular.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

When were the six slices of cheddar eaten? All at once?

> just plugged in my stuff and with the added honey 6 slices of cheddar

> and oil it says 2961 cal - if i don't gain from that! - but then

> again I've never been able to gain - but this should do something -

> thanks

> eileen 4 weeks scd

>

>

>

>

Celiac, SCD 8 years,MCS, Latex Allergy

http://www.celiac.com/authors/143/Carol-Frilegh

http://www.talkaboutcuringautism.org/gfcf-diet/sc-diet.htm