Re: My trip to Israel

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That's a great story on progress and interesting about your trip to Israel. I noticed a brand of DCCC from Israel, it is double the price than Friendship Dairy so I haven't tried it. I wonder where they sell it there.

Glad your trip went well :-).

Debbie 38 crohns dx 3/02

scd restart 1/07

So, after many bumps along the way.. I am home.I can't say it was an easy trip to Israel but it was gratifying,amazing and I had a WONDERFUL time.My grandma had a nasty fall in Dec. and due to SCD I was able to

consider going to visit and comfort her. I can't express what anaccomplishment this is for me. A GIFT!Due to my experience with the Israeli embassy here in NYC before mytrip (all my snacks thrown out) I was super prepared at the airport

and all those hours traveling. People on the lists and groups gave mesuch incredible advice that I am just humbled and indebted for all ofthe help and support. I had more than enough food and I didn't go hungry and I didn't feel

sick at all! My husband and I made;simple chicken (from soup) took it off the bone, put it in a doubleziploc bag3 rib eye steaks that I grilled and broiled and diced it cutting awayall the fat and I put that into a double Ziploc

I made zucchini and carrot stickstook some apples and oranges (flight attendant peeled apple for me,she was more than helpful)some peppermint tea bags (asked for hot water on flight)My cold packs in my cold lunch box weren't chucked as I had a note

from my GI. I was prepared for them to be tossed so, I froze someextra chicken and I took frozen peas to keep everything cold. Plus, Itook empty ziplocs in case all of those things would be confiscated soI could ask a flight attendant to fill up ziplocs with ice. Didn't

have to do that though. :)My first bump along the way is that I didn't purchase water in theterminal before I boarded the flight (Upon my return my mother in lawwas so worried that she gave me an empty bottle so that if for any

reason I couldn't get water in the terminal I could ask the flightattendant to fill it up for me, which I thought was a greatsuggestion.) Due to me not really drinking enough I got a littledehydrated. I didn't realize this until the 2nd day I was in israel.

I slept on the flight and I felt totally fine when I arrived. Whichis a miracle (haven't felt ok from a flight in like 15 years, letalone a 10 hr flight!)I was very hungry when I got to my in-laws house up in the North at

around noon. My mother in law had made eggplant for me and some chicken.I shouldn't of had the eggplant salad. I eat it on rare occasion athome without the skin (which is how she made it.. but still it's quite

a no-no for me. Since, I can only eat it if I am feeling REALLY good)I just didn't want to hurt her feelings (later she told me she won'tget offended if I don't eat something she makes. I know I made a

mistake and I shouldn't feel guilty or bad.. but what can I say Iinhabit this human body and I have issues with being strong sometimes)When I arrived I didn't have a BM which is RARE for me, I attributed

it to holding in some gas on the plane, not drinking enough and thetime zone changes. So during that night, after I had the eggplantsalad I started having INSANE pain and I couldn't go to the bathroomAT ALL! (which always gives me some relief) I was so angry at myself

for flying as I thought I wasn't ready or I pushed myself too much. Maybe I did. I still don't know. But, I woke up in the morning andmy mother in law saw I was totally pale white and she was worried.

She made me simple chicken soup with carrots. So, that first wholeday I was there I just had some broth and went to sleep and woke up at3pm. I couldn't eat but, I felt totally ok and I was able to go visit

my family near Tel-Aviv. I cannot explain how amazing this is that Iwas able to function!! Usually an episode like this would make mebedridden for weeks and if I didn't kick it I would end up on prednisone.

Anyway, I was able to eat some chicken from the soup that next morningand I had a small piece of lamb later that day. After that day I wasable to eat and be totally normal for the rest of my trip. I had more

than enough energy (I actually helped my grandma clean some of herclosets out without getting tired! I saw family and friends.. droveall over and I was totally happy and FULL of vitality) it was justincredible! OMG I am so encouraged by this experience I cannot

express it in words.Upon returning home I brought the same menu/protocol with me and itworked out beautifully! My mistake coming home was that the next day Itook the Lyosan Probiotic from Lucy's which I didn't take during my

trip for about 9 days in total. This totally set me back. Couldn'teat and drink for 2 days. This time though I got a good receipe foran SCD electrolyte drink mix and today I am feeling so so so much better.

So there is the saga. I actually went to the store in Bnei-Brak withmy husband and father. If I had time I would of gone to Jerusalem butthat is a different story. My family was so happy with how I wastalking about my health (first time in 10 years) and how good I am

looking that we decided to visit the store so I can get the books inHebrew along with some SCD approved foods. I must say (and I can saythis since I am Jewish moreover, some of my family is orthodox thatthis visit to Bnei-Brak was extremely upsetting. The store is in an

Ultra-Orthodox community and the owners/employees are allUltra-Orthodox. Since, this is the case and I was wearing pants and acolorful sweater and my husband and father didn't have a yameka onthey TOTALLY ignored me and my questions. It didn't occur to us to

dress differently AT ALL! But, being that I was already there- I waspushy and asked my questions anyway. I purchased two BTVC books inHebrew (which is an interesting discussion in itself since the Hebrewtranslation has many differences than the English version. I

attribute this to making the diet accessible to life in Israel andoutfitting it to be Kosher.)The store had the following items from what I could tell but this iswith the ZILCH/NADA/NO help I got. So what I am saying is they might

have more items. From what I saw, they had " SCD yogurt " ready made inthe fridge. I am unsure who makes it. No DCCC. She told me thatpeople drip that yogurt and that is the cheese. They had almond flour

(didn't answer my questions as to who makes it) they had raw nuts, nutbutters (israeli made) with no additives although I do not know howIsraeli labeling laws work. I wanted to ask about a probiotic that is

SCD legal because my 13 month old niece who lives in Israel is havingchronic ear infections and is on antibiotics over and over that causeher green watery BM her developement has totally been impeded and shedoesn't really stand anymore (3 weeks ago she was). The probiotic

they give her has 5 different bacterias in it including, tapiocastarch, lactose, corn starch, sucrose and a whole bunch of otherthings that just broke my heart. So I wanted to find a good source ofa probiotic for the baby that they can buy in Israel. I still need to

look into this.My suggestion is if going to Bnie Brak and if you want attention (andI can't know if this will work for sure. Women should wear longsleeve shirt and long skirt and men should put on a yameka) My father

said they still won't be helpful but I think sometimes there are nicepeople that go by a different moral code despite their religiousbelief system and help fellow humans especially those with chronicillness- But, since they are the only store in central Israel that has

the book and SCD oriented stuff maybe kissing up isn't a bad anglesome people would call it respect, I don't know. But hey that's awhole other rant.In Netanya which is just North of Tel-Aviv there is a new HUGE (for

Israeli standards) Organic Super-Market (not everything organic) andthey have many items that seem SCD legal. Now, I am unsure of Israelilabeling laws but they have nut butters that the store in Bnei-Brakhad along with organic whole milk, low fat milk from the " HARDOF "

brand. If I were in israel for an extended period of time that wouldbe the milk I would personally buy to make yogurt. Usually in Israelwhole milk is not sold only %3, %2, %1. They also had some otherbasics. Right next to this organic market in Netanya (It's called

EDEN) there is a different store that is totally non-kosher that is agourmet chain supermakret called " Tiv-Tam " that sells pork and meatand cheeses. They had real Parm cheese and some hard aged cheeses

from Europe.I was very happy to see that when I go back to Israel it will be mucheasier than I thought to buy SCD legal things. (Probably wouldn't bea problem in the Tel-Aviv, Haifa, Jerusalem area but the fact that

some of the stuff is in two stores in very close proximity to oneanother is just awesome!)Anyway, I ranted enough and this will be one hell of a long post.Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions and I feel slowly I am

getting my life back and I am able to live a little. What a blessingand what a gift. God Bless Elaine for her life's work and Dr. Haas.Jodi

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At 12:12 PM 1/25/2008, you wrote:

So, after many bumps along the

way.. I am home.

Welcome back! Reading your story is very, very gratifying! And I'm

certainly glad we were able to help you make the trip

successfully!

I admit that I find it saddening that the store owners ignored your

questions.

My understanding is that the SCD yogurt is made by the rabbi who

translated BTVC into Hebrew. At least, that is what I recall from

discussions when Elaine was alive.

There are apparently always differences when things are translated, and I

would imagine that if the Hebrew edition is kosher, there would be

changes in the recipes! (My beef, cheese and broccoli casserole, which

travels well, would get thrown out on its ear!)

>> My mistake coming home was that the next day I took the Lyosan

Probiotic from Lucy's which I didn't take during my trip for about 9 days

in total. <<

I ran into that after Katrina. No yogurt, and no Lyosan for about ten

days. I was not a happy camper!

>> Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions and I feel slowly

I am getting my life back and I am able to live a little. What a blessing

and what a gift. God Bless Elaine for her life's work and Dr. Haas.

<<

Blessings to Dr. Haas for his research, and to Elaine for keeping it

alive. And now you know why some of us who have gotten our lives back

thanks to SCD continue to stay with the lists. It's stories like yours,

Jodi, which make everything worthwhile.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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Where do you live? And do you remember the store you saw it in?

>

> That's a great story on progress and interesting about your trip to

Israel.

> I noticed a brand of DCCC from Israel, it is double the price than

> Friendship Dairy so I haven't tried it. I wonder where they sell it

there.

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I googled it, couldn't remember the exact name. This is a very faint picture of it. J & J is the name.

http://www.clickosher.com/clickosher.com/dept.asp?cat=14 & item=011274000863

Central Market (HEB is the mother store I think and Texas only but not 100% positive on that).

They also have Haolam sliced all-natural cheeses and Mehadrin, Friendship Dairy. Beldens has the type special ordered in a clear wrap but I'm not sure I could even buy it because I think someone orders it.

Hope the picture helps, that's all I could find. If you google J & J Farmer's Cheese, maybe you can find something locally.

Where do you live? And do you remember the store you saw it in?

>> That's a great story on progress and interesting about your trip toIsrael.> I noticed a brand of DCCC from Israel, it is double the price than> Friendship Dairy so I haven't tried it. I wonder where they sell it

there.

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Jodi,

Thanks for sharing your travel story . . . quite inspiring how you overcame your fears and the inevitable obstacles! Your narrative is motivation to view traveling with delight instead of dread.

Well wishes to all. ferna, UC/CD, SCD 97, 05, 06, No Meds

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