Re: why am I scared to be hungry?

[Guest guest]

Mikki,

The author Clavell (Sho-Gun) who wrote King Rat about a prisoner

of war camp in WWII were everyone was starving, actually went thru

that himself and YEARS later he still carried around a tin of sardines

where ever he went. Some things have a major impact and hang around

longer than one would like to give them notice. Just your noticing

this is an excellent starting point for you to observe and allow more

information to flow to you as it reveals itself.

I wrestle with my rebelliousness. Part of it really must preform a

necessary and useful function, but some times it gets in the way of

changes I would like to get going too. Baby steps - sigh ;-)

BEST to you, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Just my musing for the day ... I've been working on IE for about a

> month now, and had some very nice insights - not all directly to do

> with eating - but for instance HOUSEWORK (lol), and old voices from

> the past. nothing earth-shattering, just breaking some old voices, ya

> know?

>

> but one thing I'm noticing is that of all the IE principles, the one

> that is not coming easily as I have these insights is STOP WHEN YOU

> ARE FULL. I have realized that I am still AFRAID to be hungry. And I

> don't know why. I'm 42, and in my whole life, there is only about 3

> months where I literally " had no money " for food - and even then I

> didn't really go hungry, just had some really weird meals for a while

> eating whatever was left in the pantry with what was in the clearance

> bin at the grocery store.

>

> So ... what is up with this? Did I have a bad past-life experience LOL?

>

> I wondering if maybe getting some meal bars or basic snacks to carry

> around would get me over this strange " gotta eat now because I don't

> dare take the risk of being hungry later " feeling that I'm becoming

> aware of ...

>

> just ... WIERD ... since I am at least 50 lbs overweight, it's not

> like I've been missing any meals lately!!!!!!!

>

> Mikki

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Martha,

I too work on overcoming the fear of being humgry, and I too have

never really had to go hungry. But fears are often not based in

reality. People who fear hieghts do not have to have fallen from a

hieght to get the fear. People who fear flying may have never even

been in a plane before.

I think my fear of going humgry comes from all the years of having to

plan meals ahead of time. The fear is that if I don't plan ahead I

won't be able to find anything that my restrictive diet will allow.

Arnie

>

> Just my musing for the day ... I've been working on IE for about a

> month now, and had some very nice insights - not all directly to do

> with eating - but for instance HOUSEWORK (lol), and old voices from

> the past. nothing earth-shattering, just breaking some old voices,

ya

> know?

>

> but one thing I'm noticing is that of all the IE principles, the one

> that is not coming easily as I have these insights is STOP WHEN YOU

> ARE FULL. I have realized that I am still AFRAID to be hungry.

And I

> don't know why. I'm 42, and in my whole life, there is only about 3

> months where I literally " had no money " for food - and even then I

> didn't really go hungry, just had some really weird meals for a

while

> eating whatever was left in the pantry with what was in the

clearance

> bin at the grocery store.

>

> So ... what is up with this? Did I have a bad past-life experience

LOL?

>

> I wondering if maybe getting some meal bars or basic snacks to carry

> around would get me over this strange " gotta eat now because I don't

> dare take the risk of being hungry later " feeling that I'm becoming

> aware of ...

>

> just ... WIERD ... since I am at least 50 lbs overweight, it's not

> like I've been missing any meals lately!!!!!!!

>

> Mikki

>

[Guest guest]

>I think my fear of going humgry comes from all the years of having to >plan meals ahead of time. The fear is that if I don't plan ahead I >won't be able to find anything that my restrictive diet will allow.

You know, this rings a bell with me. Even though I've never been a particularly successful dieter, I have spent the last 15 years WORRYING about what to eat - KNOWING that the small amount " allowed " by a diet was NOT going to carry me the 5-7 hours until I was " allowed " or had the opportunity to get in my kitchen for legal foods again ... so I'd eat more than the diet said to, feel guilty about it, STILL be hungry before I was back around legal foods (since for many years I either had a long commute, no office frig, or both), eat vending machine or fast food and feel guilty about THAT .... and every day felt like a failure.

Hehe, that really helps explain MY rebelliousness too, eh? I set myself up to feel like I could never do anything right!! No wonder I've been pissed off about food for so long!!

Wow. The things we do to ourselves. I'm just going to honor my fears for a while and go ahead and carry a snack bar in my purse if that what it takes to reassure myself so that I can stop when I'm full.

Thanks for the insight!!!!

Mikki

..

[Guest guest]

mikki,

maybe the reason that your body fears hunger so much is that you didnt give it what it wanted for so many years, through restrictive dieting?

that is, were there many times you tried to ignore your hunger signals because it wasn't the " right " time, as per your diet?

i have a problem with this as well, but i feel like the last couple of days, when i feel hungry and cant eat right away, it's amazing -- i dont feel freaked out! i just calmly think, " oh, hmm, i guess i'm hungry, i'll have to deal with that once i get home. "

i've been working on stopping as soon as i think i MIGHT be full... but then i sometimes go back and eat more ten minutes later. i think this is helping. i just leave the plate on the table so i dont have any sense that i am punishing myself if it stop eating -- the food is still there if i want it.

i think if you treat your hunger with loving respect it will be more respectful of you, in turn.

i hope this is helpful.

abby

Just my musing for the day ... I've been working on IE for about amonth now, and had some very nice insights - not all directly to dowith eating - but for instance HOUSEWORK (lol), and old voices fromthe past. nothing earth-shattering, just breaking some old voices, ya

know?but one thing I'm noticing is that of all the IE principles, the onethat is not coming easily as I have these insights is STOP WHEN YOUARE FULL. I have realized that I am still AFRAID to be hungry. And I

don't know why. I'm 42, and in my whole life, there is only about 3months where I literally " had no money " for food - and even then Ididn't really go hungry, just had some really weird meals for a while

eating whatever was left in the pantry with what was in the clearancebin at the grocery store.So ... what is up with this? Did I have a bad past-life experience LOL?I wondering if maybe getting some meal bars or basic snacks to carry

around would get me over this strange " gotta eat now because I don'tdare take the risk of being hungry later " feeling that I'm becomingaware of ...just ... WIERD ... since I am at least 50 lbs overweight, it's not

like I've been missing any meals lately!!!!!!!Mikki

[Guest guest]

Hi Abby, that is all true - except I was very BAD at trying to ignore my hunger signals, I've been very bad at actually following diets, but damn if I didn't keep trying and feeling like a failure!! LOL

since I'm not sure when I'm at a 7 on the hunger scale, I like your idea of putting my meal to the side when I think I " might " be full, but knowing it's still there 10 or 20 minutes later if I need it...

I guess my issues with " diet failure " go a little deeper than I thought!! For a couple of weeks I was really very comfortable with IE, and now I'm NOT comfortable, but I think that means I'm making progress

Thanks!

Mikki

mikki,

maybe the reason that your body fears hunger so much is that you didnt give it what it wanted for so many years, through restrictive dieting?

that is, were there many times you tried to ignore your hunger signals because it wasn't the " right " time, as per your diet?

i have a problem with this as well, but i feel like the last couple of days, when i feel hungry and cant eat right away, it's amazing -- i dont feel freaked out! i just calmly think, " oh, hmm, i guess i'm hungry, i'll have to deal with that once i get home. "

i've been working on stopping as soon as i think i MIGHT be full... but then i sometimes go back and eat more ten minutes later. i think this is helping. i just leave the plate on the table so i dont have any sense that i am punishing myself if it stop eating -- the food is still there if i want it.

i think if you treat your hunger with loving respect it will be more respectful of you, in turn.

i hope this is helpful.

abby

Just my musing for the day ... I've been working on IE for about amonth now, and had some very nice insights - not all directly to dowith eating - but for instance HOUSEWORK (lol), and old voices fromthe past. nothing earth-shattering, just breaking some old voices, ya

know?but one thing I'm noticing is that of all the IE principles, the onethat is not coming easily as I have these insights is STOP WHEN YOUARE FULL. I have realized that I am still AFRAID to be hungry. And I

don't know why. I'm 42, and in my whole life, there is only about 3months where I literally " had no money " for food - and even then Ididn't really go hungry, just had some really weird meals for a while

eating whatever was left in the pantry with what was in the clearancebin at the grocery store.So ... what is up with this? Did I have a bad past-life experience LOL?I wondering if maybe getting some meal bars or basic snacks to carry

around would get me over this strange " gotta eat now because I don'tdare take the risk of being hungry later " feeling that I'm becomingaware of ...just ... WIERD ... since I am at least 50 lbs overweight, it's not

like I've been missing any meals lately!!!!!!!Mikki

[Guest guest]

My fear of hunger comes from growing up in a large family where there

didn't seem to be enough of everything - not enough food, not enough

money, not enough love.

I have been working hard to comfort and convince my inner child that

she will get what she needs and the inner parent part of me is

capable and WILL pay attention (after many years of trying to tell

her to sit down and shut up *sigh*).

For me, Fear of hunger ends up being the blanket under which all

these other feelings are hiding :-)

> >

> > Just my musing for the day ... I've been working on IE for about a

> > month now, and had some very nice insights - not all directly to

do

> > with eating - but for instance HOUSEWORK (lol), and old voices

from

> > the past. nothing earth-shattering, just breaking some old

voices,

> ya

> > know?

> >

> > but one thing I'm noticing is that of all the IE principles, the

one

> > that is not coming easily as I have these insights is STOP WHEN

YOU

> > ARE FULL. I have realized that I am still AFRAID to be hungry.

> And I

> > don't know why. I'm 42, and in my whole life, there is only

about 3

> > months where I literally " had no money " for food - and even then I

> > didn't really go hungry, just had some really weird meals for a

> while

> > eating whatever was left in the pantry with what was in the

> clearance

> > bin at the grocery store.

> >

> > So ... what is up with this? Did I have a bad past-life

experience

> LOL?

> >

> > I wondering if maybe getting some meal bars or basic snacks to

carry

> > around would get me over this strange " gotta eat now because I

don't

> > dare take the risk of being hungry later " feeling that I'm

becoming

> > aware of ...

> >

> > just ... WIERD ... since I am at least 50 lbs overweight, it's not

> > like I've been missing any meals lately!!!!!!!

> >

> > Mikki

> >

>