Re:Defending vaccines in the autism debate

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I can't resist.

The Offit article states the following:

"... few people understand how science works or, in larger terms, the need for reason.... How else to explain, for example, the results of various polls, which have found most Americans believe in ANGELS; nearly half believe in GHOSTS; some three-quarters believe in MIRACLES; and, according to the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, 42 percent believe life has existed in its present form since the beginning of time?

......in step with the ANTI-INTELLECTUAL mind-set that pervades American culture"

I am not a religious freak, but I just got to say that Angels, Ghosts, and Miracles (what a song title..kind of like Lawyers, Guns & Money) have as much chance of existing as the theory of evolution does.

Scientific or not, I just have a hard time swallowing a theory that holds that all the cells in my eye "just happened" to get together (good thing, eh?) because there was a need for humans/animals to see, without no outside force...JUST HAPPENED?.....that's hard to buy. Oh, and the eye had a need to be perfectly connected to the brain. Good thing for that too~! Oh and that brain thing......

Likewise, the invisible Man in the sky who had no beginning is equally as hard to swallow. (Don't panic. I capitalized Man.)

The thing with these issues is that we just don't know....

HOWEVER, the autism/vaccine issue?

THAT one's easy!

(Lean in)

(the wakefield study WASN'T the only one.....)

(simply read the vaccines' package insert.......S C A R Y ....)

(also read Merck's webpage.....they'll tell you that vaccines cause demyelination)

(go to pubmed.com or org.)

(i forget if its com or org)

( ETC. )

(research the issue yourself)

(.....underneath all the headlines and articles that is)

(I hope the extra space between these words projected the effect of whispering )

(BOO! )

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Here's some other strong points from that article.....I tried to resist......but sarcasm has taken hold......

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"Next to clean drinking water, vaccines are arguably the most important advance in public health in the last 300 years"

OUR DRINKING WATER IS CLEAN?

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" A. Offit, co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine "

NOW HERE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS CLEARLY UNBIASED ON THE ISSUE

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Two decades ago, autism was diagnosed in one in 10,000 births; today, the ratio is one in 150....no one has yet pinned down a cause of autism, although studies in twins point strongly to a genetic basis.

THIS ONE IS PARTICULARLY POIGNANT. EVERYBODY GATHER YE CALCULATORS. LET US FIGURE TOGETHER. AUTISM HAS INCREASED 67 FOLD. (ENTER 10,000. HIT THE DIVIDED BY. THEN ENTER 150. AND THEN THE EQUALS) 67 FOLD WITHIN 20 YEARS. ....

TO ACTUALLY DESCRIBE THE ENORMOUS IMPOSSIBILITY OF AUTISM BEING A GENETIC FACTOR, LET ME START BY SAYING, JUST FOR A CONDITION TO INCREASE 2-FOLD WITHIN 20 YEARS WOULD REQUIRE THE ENTIRE POPULATION IN QUESTION, GENERALLY GENETICALLY SPEAKING, TO ALL HAVE BABIES AT AGE 10 IF THE AUTISM GENE IS AUTOSOMAL DOMINANT (remember the blue eye/green eye drop down menu from biology class) OR TO ALL HAVE BABIES AT AGE 5 IF THE AUTISM GENE IS AUTOSOMAL RECESSIVE.

NOW, 67 FOLD.....CLASS...CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN THE SCENARIO FOR THIS TO HAPPEN? THAT'S RIGHT JANE! IN ORDER FOR AUTISM TO BE GENETIC, OUR ENTIRE POPULATION WOULD HAVE TO START BIRTHING AT THE RIPE AGE OF BETWEEN 2 AND 4 MONTHS. NOW WAIT A MINUTE, GIVEN THAT THE GESTATIONAL PERIOD FOR HUMANS STILL REMAINS AT 9 MONTHS,.....THAT'S RIGHT BONNIE, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!

NOW THERE'S SOME FIFTH GRADE SCIENCE RIGHT THAR!

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Although there had been no evidence that the small amounts of thimerosal in vaccines were a danger to humans, much less caused autism,

WHAT? MERCURY BEING DANGEROUS TO WHO? HUMANS? BLASPHEMOUS! THAT SKULL & CROSSBONE?.....THAT'S JUST A PIRATE, YEAH, IT'S JUST A PIRATE!

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McCarthy made the media rounds promoting her book, Louder Than Words, about using B-12 shots to cure her autistic son

I THOUGHT IT WAS THREELAC.

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20 X 50% (dominant) = 10 YRS

20 X 25% (recessive) = 5 YEARS

(1/67 = .0149 YEARS) X 50% X 20 YEARS = 1.79 MONTHS

(1/67 = .0149 years) x 25% x 20 years = .89 months.

Defending vaccines in the autism debateAutism's False ProphetsBad Science, Risky Medicine and the Search for a Cure By A. Offithttp://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/literature/20080921_Defending_vaccines_in_the_autism_debate.htmlReviewed by Huntly Next to clean drinking water, vaccines are arguably the most important advance in public health in the last 300 years. Thanks to vaccines, we have eradicated smallpox, wiped out polio virus in the Western hemisphere, closed in on measles, and brought many other once fatal or debilitating diseases under control. But despite the indisputable track record of vaccines in lowering mortality and morbidity here and around the world, the American public has been embroiled, over the last decade, in a heated debate about whether vaccines are safe. In particular, the notion that vaccines cause autism has taken hold of the public imagination and refuses to let go, even in the face of growing scientific evidence to the contrary. In Autism's False Prophets, A. Offit, co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine and chief of infectious disease at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, helps to explain why. He has done a huge public service by exposing the tragic and dangerous place the anti-vaccine hysteria has taken us. Offit's account, written in layman's terms and with the literary skill of good storytellers, provides important insight into the fatal flaws of the key arguments of vaccine alarmists, including such well-known names as F. Kennedy Jr., Sen. ph Lieberman (I., Conn.), and Sen. Kerry (D., Mass.). Offit rightly takes major news organizations to task for failing to stress that the overwhelming majority of the scientific community has rejected the hypothesis that vaccines cause autism. But the book's chief failing is that it does not hold scientists sufficiently accountable for their failure to communicate well enough with the media and the lay public. On the face of it, it's not so unreasonable to look for a possible causal link between vaccines and autism. Two decades ago, autism was diagnosed in one in 10,000 births; today, the ratio is one in 150. During roughly the same period, the number of vaccines routinely given during childhood has doubled, from 7 to 14. Moreover, the signs of autism often appear during the infant toddler years, the very time when children get most of their vaccinations. And despite the best efforts of science, no one has yet pinned down a cause of autism, although studies in twins point strongly to a genetic basis. So it didn't take much - one tiny study, involving 12 autistic children - to light a firestorm of controversy about whether childhood immunizations are the causative agent of autism. The study, conducted by Wakefield, a British doctor, was published in the Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, in 1998. He suggested that the measles part of the combination measles-mumps-and-rubella vaccine set off gastrointestinal problems that led to autism. In 2004, Wakefield's study was found to be fraudulent, and the Lancet retracted the findings. But by then, the controversy had morphed into a broader claim: that the ethyl mercury in thimerosal, a chemical used to preserve vaccines, caused autism. Although there had been no evidence that the small amounts of thimerosal in vaccines were a danger to humans, much less caused autism, U.S. public health officials and the American Academy of Pediatrics were concerned about the cumulative amount of mercury exposure in childhood vaccines taken together. In 1999, they recommended that thimerosal be removed and, by 2001, childhood vaccines were largely free of mercury. Still, the controversy goes on. The parents of more than 5,000 children with autism have filed suit in a special federal court, seeking compensation for the autism that they allege was caused by their children's vaccines. Their touching stories, which are sympathetically described by Offit, have won the hearts - if not the minds - of many in the public and the media. But appearances, as Offit points out, can be deceptive. As it turns out, the increase in autism may not be an increase at all. Rather, doctors may be diagnosing autism in more children now because we have expanded the definition of autism - now called autistic spectrum disorders - and doctors, more aware of the problem, are spotting it more often. What's more, as logic dictates, the rooster crows before the sun comes up, but that doesn't mean the rooster caused the sun to rise. It just so happens that vaccines are given about the same time that children develop language and that the first signs of autism emerge. As Offit points out, since the controversy first erupted with Wakefield's paper, six large epidemiological studies have found no connection between the measles-mumps-and-rubella vaccine and autism. Another study, led by scientists at Columbia University and reported just two weeks ago, was unable to replicate Wakefield's results. On the broader issue of thimerosal, there have been nine epidemiological studies that have found no causal connection between the traces of ethyl mercury in the preservative and autism or less obvious but related neurological problems. At this point, the scientific evidence is very hard to dispute. If that were all Offit discussed, his book would be unremarkable. What makes this a riveting read is that Offit goes behind the scenes and takes us inside laboratories, public-health organizations, congressional hearing rooms, and parent lobbying groups to tell the inside story of how desperate parents and a gullible public have been sold a bill of goods by renegade scientists, timid public-health officials, overly zealous politicians, aggressive personal-injury lawyers, unscrupulous public-relations firms and, perhaps most powerful of all, media more interested in anecdote than careful analysis. Last fall, for example, actress McCarthy made the media rounds promoting her book, Louder Than Words, about using B-12 shots to cure her autistic son, Evan. She appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show, Good Morning America, and Larry King Live. Asked by Oprah about scientific evidence that vaccines don't cause autism, McCarthy replied, "My science is Evan, and he's at home. That's my science." The audience roared its approval. The incident, cited by Offit, illustrates the larger point of his book. The bigger picture, of which the vaccine-autism controversy is but a small part, is that we live in an age when, despite our technological advances, few people understand how science works or, in larger terms, the need for reason. How else to explain, for example, the results of various polls, which have found most Americans believe in angels; nearly half believe in ghosts; some three-quarters believe in miracles; and, according to the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, 42 percent believe life has existed in its present form since the beginning of time? In that regard, Alaska Gov. Palin, now the Republican vice-presidential nominee, a woman who has advocated the teaching of creationism alongside evolution in Alaska's public schools, is in step with the anti-intellectual mind-set that pervades American culture. As y has written, we are living in an age of American unreason. Critics will say Offit does not join the vaccine/autism debate as an objective observer. Indeed, he has been a key combatant on one side over the last decade. Offit is a champion of childhood vaccines to protect children from crippling and sometimes fatal disease. He has served on the committee that advises the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which sets immunization policy for the nation's children. Along with colleagues Stanley Plotkin and Fred , Offit was the co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine made by Merck & Co. It aims to prevent a disease that kills 2,000 children a day, most of them in developing countries. But Offit is also a world-class scientist who knows that, if the data aren't there, they aren't there. To act on unfounded claims that vaccines cause autism is to put children and communities at risk. For fear of autism, more American parents are refusing to have their children vaccinated; there has been a bump up in measles and other vaccine-preventable diseases. Autistic children have been subjected to expensive, ineffective and sometimes dangerous treatments to reverse the damage supposedly done by vaccines, and research dollars that might be spent on investigating the true causes and treatments for autism have been squandered on junk science. Offit, who has not been afraid to speak out before, has done it again, this time in a book that names names and calls nonsense nonsense. Even before the book came out, the anti-vaccine lobby was all over Offit, calling him a dupe of the drug companies and much worse. Veiled threats of physical harm against him and his children have arrived in his inbox and voice mail. For understandable reasons, there will be no book tour for Autism's False Prophets. Huntly is an assistant professor of communication at La Salle University and former medical writer at The Inquirer, where she covered AIDS and other infectious diseases. __________________________________________________________Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from .http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008

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from that (get) Offit article:

"As it turns out, the increase in autism may not be an increase at all. Rather, doctors may be diagnosing autism in more children now because we have expanded the definition of autism - now called autistic spectrum disorders - and doctors, more aware of the problem, are spotting it more often."

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OH THAT'S RIGHT....WE ALL REMEMBER THOSE 1 OR 2 KIDS IN OUR CLASS GROWING UP WHO WOULD WANDER THE PERIMETER OF THE CLASSROOM FLAPPING THEIR HANDS, HUMMING AND JUMPING AND NOT TALKING...