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LEE

HAVE YOU TRIED BOTUX? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD WORK BUT, MAYBE YOU

COULD LOOK INTO IT. I KNOW THEY USE IT ON OTHER DYSTONIAS. I MYSELF

HAVE SPASMODIC DYSTONIA-I HAVE NO VOICE MOST OF THE TIME. JUST SQUEEKS

AND SHRILL NOISES. I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS SHOT BUT I HAVE HEARD FROM

OTHERS THAT HAVE, AND IT WORKS DIFFERENT ON SOME PEOPLE.

GOOD LUCK. YOU WILL BE IN MY PRAYERS.

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I have had botox injections, when my neck movement was

much worse. They helped me fall asleep easier but did

nothing to ease my pain or lack of energy. I finally

stopped having the injections, when my neck movement

reduced a bit. Thanks

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> LEE

>

> HAVE YOU TRIED BOTUX? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD

> WORK BUT, MAYBE YOU

> COULD LOOK INTO IT. I KNOW THEY USE IT ON OTHER

> DYSTONIAS. I MYSELF

> HAVE SPASMODIC DYSTONIA-I HAVE NO VOICE MOST OF THE

> TIME. JUST SQUEEKS

> AND SHRILL NOISES. I HAVE NEVER TRIED THIS SHOT BUT

> I HAVE HEARD FROM

> OTHERS THAT HAVE, AND IT WORKS DIFFERENT ON SOME

> PEOPLE.

> GOOD LUCK. YOU WILL BE IN MY PRAYERS.

> DONNA

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Hi Lee,

Welcome to the family *hug*

I am sorry to hear about your chronic pain. I have no idea what your condition is... even when you explained it as cervical dystonia (spasmodic torticollis) - well ok I got the spasmodic part but body part is the torticollis? I feel that I should know this but have no clue.... cervical I am assuming cervix? If so - yuck! That must be horrible.

Are you on meds for any of this? What have you tried? It gets so frustrating doesn't it *hug* don't give up - somewhere there will be an answer!

And as for the house - know what you mean. We don't say - oh put that on the desk. Now we say - oh put that on the mess. Can you afford a cleaner? There are some good home help options for people who are ill.... have a look under the carers resources at http://www.elderwyn.com/medicallinks/c.html

How long has this gone on for? You sound so depressed. *hug* Please feel free to vent all you need ok. We are all here to love and support you! Hang in there babe!

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Dear Aisha: Thanks so much for the kind welcome.

Cervical dystonia is a neurological condition of the

neck (cervical region of spine). For unknown reasons,

my brain (and that of many others) tells my neck

muscles to spasm constantly. Thus my neck always moves

to the left. When it moves, it presses on nerves,

which cause pain down my right side. Sometimes I can't

use my right arm at all. Sometimes my right hip is

affected and I have trouble walking. I have tried

Botulinum Toxin injections with minimal success. I

have tried Cardizem, Benadryl, Cogentin and Artane,

which are supposed to help stop movement. That was

unsuccessful. I do take muscle relaxants, which help

somewhat but then I am not able to drive. I have to

balance my functioning level with my desire for

relief. I am a single mom with 2 kids, so I have to be

able to function. I also take Ultram, Motrin and

Percocet sometimes, when the pain gets bad.

I have also turned to alternative medicine but can't

always afford it. Acupuncture does give me some

relief, as well as homeopathic remedies. I see a very

skilled homeopath/acupuncturist but he is also

expensive.

I have had this for about 6 years and am on

disability. I do work part-time, due to financial

need.

Thanks again for your kindness. I will take a look at

the link. Love, Lee

--- Aisha Elderwyn <aisha@...> wrote:

> Hi Lee,

>

> Welcome to the family *hug*

>

> I am sorry to hear about your chronic pain. I have

> no idea what your condition is... even when you

> explained it as cervical dystonia (spasmodic

> torticollis) - well ok I got the spasmodic part but

> body part is the torticollis? I feel that I should

> know this but have no clue.... cervical I am

> assuming cervix? If so - yuck! That must be

> horrible.

>

> Are you on meds for any of this? What have you

> tried? It gets so frustrating doesn't it *hug* don't

> give up - somewhere there will be an answer!

>

> And as for the house - know what you mean. We don't

> say - oh put that on the desk. Now we say - oh put

> that on the mess. Can you afford a cleaner? There

> are some good home help options for people who are

> ill.... have a look under the carers resources at

> http://www.elderwyn.com/medicallinks/c.html

>

> How long has this gone on for? You sound so

> depressed. *hug* Please feel free to vent all you

> need ok. We are all here to love and support you!

> Hang in there babe!

>

> Love Aisha.

>

> *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*

> Believe that there's a light at the end of the

> tunnel.

> Believe that you may be that light for someone else.

> - Kobi Yamada

> *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*

>

> Aisha Elderwyn

> ICQ 55461955

> aisha@...

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Hi Lee,

"For unknown reasons, my brain (and that of many others) tells my neckmuscles to spasm constantly. Thus my neck always moves to the left."

Have they tried you on anti spasmodic (sp?) medication like clonazepam?? I would have thought that any meds for myoclonic spasms would be the first choice??? But then again, these might just be for nerve spasms? I'm not sure...

Well at least you know you have a brain *hug* and like me it doesn't work! Good excuse some times! LOL

Do you get much support from family and friends? Being a single mom and being sick is not easy - there are lots of them here - you are all amazing!

So are you in constant pain? yuck!

Talk to you soon,

Love Aisha.

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I don't know why anti-spasmodics don't work. The

muscle relaxants do help. Maybe there is no way to

stop the brain from firing up those muscles.

I never thought to be grateful that I have a

functioning brain!!! LOL :)

Lee

--- Aisha Elderwyn <aisha@...> wrote:

> Hi Lee,

>

> " For unknown reasons, my brain (and that of many

> others) tells my neck

> muscles to spasm constantly. Thus my neck always

> moves to the left. "

>

> Have they tried you on anti spasmodic (sp?)

> medication like clonazepam?? I would have thought

> that any meds for myoclonic spasms would be the

> first choice??? >

> Well at least you know you have a brain *hug* and

> like me it doesn't work!

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Hi Lee,

Glad you liked Dooksters site... keep swimming sweetie!

"I don't know why anti-spasmodic don't work."

I was thinking about this at 2am in the morning, as one does, and it occurred to me that the spasmodic are for nerve based problems where yours is a muscle based problem, so they wouldn't help you at all...

"I never thought to be grateful that I have a functioning brain!!! LOL :)"

HAHA.. yes - but its not working the right way! That's what I tell everyone - That I have a brain, seen the pictures, shame it doesn't work!

Love Aisha.

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Kathy,

Wow! You assume too much from me. I am overwhelmed. I feel as though

you are talking to me in a foreign language. I got passed the first

sentence okay, but then you lost me. What is an immune panel? Who does

this kind of stuff? What do all these abbreviations mean - IgG, IgE,

IgM, and so forth. When you say " go deep " I haven't a clue as to where

you're headed.

Please explain.

How do you know you're not looking for problems you don't even have?

What kind of doctors brought all this to your attention? No doubt

everyone wants to live a healthy life - but I don't want to go off the

" deep end " trying to find it. I must confess that I have ventured in

that direction - tried to live somewhat of a vegetarian lifestyle for

awhile, raw foods, bottled water, Juiceman Juicer, etc. I have

experience chelation therapy and had my hair analyzed. Didn't do a

thing for me. I am currently growing some tomatoes and strawberries,

but don't expect miracles to happen because I eat them. Perhaps it is

all a question of balance. I am simply trying to figure out what is

appropriate for me. You seem to have taken the time to figure out

things most people never even consider. I appreciate your taking the

time to share your experiences.

Lamar

wrote:

> I had some help from good doctor friends, and parents just like me on

> where

> to go.

> Initially, I would do an immune panel with titres to EBV, CMV,

> Stealth, and

> all vaccines.

> Then I would go down deep with IgG, IgE, IgM, IgA and all subclasses.

> Then after that delayed food panels, (preferabbly Great plains lab),

> stool

> samples for bacteria, yeast and fungas

> Then I would test for Mercury, in hair, blood and urine

> Then I would have the house assesed-and throw out all the volitile

> things

> you can, even take out rugs if needs be

> Then I would go over the digestive issues accompnyanied with epilepsy,

>

> recharge the diet

> In my humble opinion, none of us will come out normal in these

> circumstances

> of tests.

> That is what you go for then, go for the weaknesses in your system and

> work

> out, and onion

> peel layer the problems. I account parents more smart than any

> doctor, go

> with your gut.

> Kathy

> [ ] Finding Answers

>

>

> > Kathy,

> >

> > You asked so many questions below. Do you have any advice on how to

>

> > find the answers? For example, how does a person know if they have

> a

> > problem with their immune system? What doctor can diagnose that

> > problem? Since you made all those suggestions, I assume you tackled

> all

> > those issues. It must have taken you a considerable amount of time

> to

> > find the answers. I personally do not see how anyone could do it

> > correctly on their own. Where did you go for help?

> >

> > Lamar

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Also, go for the obvius things

> > > 1. Are you in a new home? (believe it or not riply, air tight

> doesn't

> > >

> > > always mean healthy)

> > > 2. Dental work with amalgams

> > > 3. Recent vaccinations

> > > 4. Gut problems/too much gluten and cassein (milk and wheat)

> > > 5. Prepensity to have mold or fungas in the house?

> > > 6. Stress, loss of sleep?

> > > 7. Viral process (stealth?) www.ccid.org , CMV? Herpes 6?

> > > 8. Hows the digestive juices?

> > > 9. Drink water, what kind?

> > > 10. Flouride in your water, your use on teeth?

> > > 11. How many black fillings do you have?

> > > 12. rid the house of all organophosphates, cleaners, volitile

> > > chemicals,

> > > green lawn person, work environment? etc

> > > 13. Any other health problems in the family?

> > > 14. Any thing wrong with the immune system?

> > > 15. Accident? Blow to head? Menengitis? Encephalitis? (as a

> child

> > > too?)

> > > 16. Vaccine injury as a child? Dpt or MMR? Are you mercury

> > > poisined?

> > > 17. What are your copper levels?

> > > 18. Zinc levels or other deficiencies?

> > > 19. Relaxation excercises, no tv watching (really-it outgasses)

> > > 20. What natural things do you take?

> > > 21. Diet too much carbos? Diet drinks?

> > > 22. Intake of protein, what kind?

> > > 23. Any fatty acid problems?

> > > 24. Coffee drinker?

> > >

> > > Answer some of these things and see a connection?

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The IgG and all that good stuff are indicators in your immune system of what

your fighting, or what your allergic to, or how your immune system reacts to

foreign things or self things in the body. Most people with epilepsy have a

tendancy to have problems on IgG and IgE, indicating a food allergy (even

delayed) or an environmental exposure allergy. For instance, Great plains

will also do an immunodeficiency panel. Benefits of the Immunodeficiency

Evaluation such as:

Zinc levels are measured (zinc is an important vitamin for people with

autism)

Known deficiencies can be treated

Abnormal levels could indicate need for allergy testing

Improving the immune system could lead to less infections

Seizures and abnormal behaviors may respond to immune therapies

That is why I went that route, for obvious reasons, for all others, without

autism, it still is a viable option. I believe these looky see tests are

viable, becuase they do direct you on what to do next and what to not waste

your breathe on.

Binstock says this..... " tests in the Basic Panel have revealed

atypical

elevations of EBV, CMV (most of the time this is stealth), and/or HHV6;

co-occurring infections are common; and

other immune atypicalities are seen in some of the panels, including -- even

in

this small initial sampling and with much variation from child to child:

(a) atypically high elevations of vaccinal antigens or measles,

(B) mild elevations that may reflect adjuvant effects from other antigens or

pathogens such as EBV,

© non-detected antibodies against a vaccinal antigen (eg, tetanus,

varicella,

mumps),

(d) increased or decreased numbers of Natural Killer cells,

(e) impaired NK function,

(f) atypical elevations of certain cytokines, (again, the workings of a

stealth virus involvement)

(g) altered ratios of T cell subsets, and

(h) occasional skewing of the child's immunoglobulin levels.

So with that information, I am told to do several things, one is that I must

use a biological response modifier type of product, a product that not only

works on boosting the immune system, but also dampens it at the same time

and knows how and when to do that. That can mean anything from transfer

factor, to ambrotose, to fatty acids, to noni, to IP-6 to Microhydin, to

Quercitin, to VMA's. It is my opinion that seizures COULD be in that

kind of category (needing response modfiers), we don't want to overexcite

some areas of the brain, and yet, in some places you need boosting. The

fact of the matter is, why have we ever thought that the immune system and

the nervous system are two different entitites? THEY ARE NOT. What will

transpire, is that in my opinion, you hit a core level problem, and address

the deficiencies one by one or in combination with a new diet, fixing the

gut, fixing the emotions, fixing the environemnt, and then when you do that,

you fix how the immune system responds, give it the amplitude it needs to

handle the viruses and immune deficiencies rather than being overwhelmed and

overburdened by the things that is weighing it down. This will help with

hormone levels, the juices of seratonin work better, the antibodies against

tissue start to heal, and then you reteach the whole body that self cells

are ok, and non self, not ok. You get rid of the bigger things, then the

lesser things. My son has been relatively seizure free for a long period

of time becuase of that. We are working on taking off all meds, and am

switching over to everything natural to control them. So far so good,

knock on wood.

I think the deep end is living with seizures all your life, and pouring down

unhealthy meds, IMHO~

Kathy

[ ] Finding Answers

> >

> >

> > > Kathy,

> > >

> > > You asked so many questions below. Do you have any advice on how to

> >

> > > find the answers? For example, how does a person know if they have

> > a

> > > problem with their immune system? What doctor can diagnose that

> > > problem? Since you made all those suggestions, I assume you tackled

> > all

> > > those issues. It must have taken you a considerable amount of time

> > to

> > > find the answers. I personally do not see how anyone could do it

> > > correctly on their own. Where did you go for help?

> > >

> > > Lamar

> > >

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Also, go for the obvius things

> > > > 1. Are you in a new home? (believe it or not riply, air tight

> > doesn't

> > > >

> > > > always mean healthy)

> > > > 2. Dental work with amalgams

> > > > 3. Recent vaccinations

> > > > 4. Gut problems/too much gluten and cassein (milk and wheat)

> > > > 5. Prepensity to have mold or fungas in the house?

> > > > 6. Stress, loss of sleep?

> > > > 7. Viral process (stealth?) www.ccid.org , CMV? Herpes 6?

> > > > 8. Hows the digestive juices?

> > > > 9. Drink water, what kind?

> > > > 10. Flouride in your water, your use on teeth?

> > > > 11. How many black fillings do you have?

> > > > 12. rid the house of all organophosphates, cleaners, volitile

> > > > chemicals,

> > > > green lawn person, work environment? etc

> > > > 13. Any other health problems in the family?

> > > > 14. Any thing wrong with the immune system?

> > > > 15. Accident? Blow to head? Menengitis? Encephalitis? (as a

> > child

> > > > too?)

> > > > 16. Vaccine injury as a child? Dpt or MMR? Are you mercury

> > > > poisined?

> > > > 17. What are your copper levels?

> > > > 18. Zinc levels or other deficiencies?

> > > > 19. Relaxation excercises, no tv watching (really-it outgasses)

> > > > 20. What natural things do you take?

> > > > 21. Diet too much carbos? Diet drinks?

> > > > 22. Intake of protein, what kind?

> > > > 23. Any fatty acid problems?

> > > > 24. Coffee drinker?

> > > >

> > > > Answer some of these things and see a connection?

>

>

>

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Kathy,

Thanks so much for providing all this information.

With regard to the immunodeficiency evaluation, who exactly is Great

Plains? Is it a clinic? If so, where is it located? Do you go there

personally, send them a hair sample, what? How long did it take you to

figure all of this out? Are you done or are you still investigating

certain things?

I can agree that going off the " deep end " is living with seizures when

you have other options. The problem as I see it is knowing the

difference between a genuine option and a wasted effort. Despite the

wide range of things you take into consideration, the psychological

aspects of epilepsy do not appear to be among them. Is that a valid

assumption on my part? I see a great deal of concern about what goes

into the body physically, but a total disregard about what goes into the

mind. There is more to us than flesh, bone and electro-chemical

interactions. Are we some kind of human cocktail? Is all that's needed

is the right ingredients to injest or exposure ourselves to and we will

be fine? What does that say about people who became epileptic because

they received a physical injury at some point in their life - maybe even

while they were still a fetus? Do you really think vitamins are going

to come to rescue and solve their problems?

Your brain is affected by more than what you eat. When it comes to your

brain, don't discount one's behavior. A person's behavior can reveal a

great deal. Yes, it can make you aware of problems like seizures.

But, that is not all. Psychological techniques can help provide

solutions. And, that is why I think psychology is used more and more in

treating epilepsy today.

It certainly has enabled a lot of people to learn to control their

seizures with little or no medication and in the process improve their

overall quality of life.

Lamar

wrote:

> The IgG and all that good stuff are indicators in your immune system

> of what

> your fighting, or what your allergic to, or how your immune system

> reacts to

> foreign things or self things in the body. Most people with epilepsy

> have a

> tendancy to have problems on IgG and IgE, indicating a food allergy

> (even

> delayed) or an environmental exposure allergy. For instance, Great

> plains

> will also do an immunodeficiency panel. Benefits of the

> Immunodeficiency

> Evaluation such as:

> Zinc levels are measured (zinc is an important vitamin for people with

>

> autism)

> Known deficiencies can be treated

> Abnormal levels could indicate need for allergy testing

> Improving the immune system could lead to less infections

> Seizures and abnormal behaviors may respond to immune therapies

> That is why I went that route, for obvious reasons, for all others,

> without

> autism, it still is a viable option. I believe these looky see tests

> are

> viable, becuase they do direct you on what to do next and what to not

> waste

> your breathe on.

>

> Binstock says this..... " tests in the Basic Panel have revealed

>

> atypical

> elevations of EBV, CMV (most of the time this is stealth), and/or

> HHV6;

> co-occurring infections are common; and

> other immune atypicalities are seen in some of the panels, including

> -- even

> in

> this small initial sampling and with much variation from child to

> child:

> (a) atypically high elevations of vaccinal antigens or measles,

> (B) mild elevations that may reflect adjuvant effects from other

> antigens or

> pathogens such as EBV,

> © non-detected antibodies against a vaccinal antigen (eg, tetanus,

> varicella,

> mumps),

> (d) increased or decreased numbers of Natural Killer cells,

> (e) impaired NK function,

> (f) atypical elevations of certain cytokines, (again, the workings of

> a

> stealth virus involvement)

> (g) altered ratios of T cell subsets, and

> (h) occasional skewing of the child's immunoglobulin levels.

>

> So with that information, I am told to do several things, one is that

> I must

> use a biological response modifier type of product, a product that not

> only

> works on boosting the immune system, but also dampens it at the same

> time

> and knows how and when to do that. That can mean anything from

> transfer

> factor, to ambrotose, to fatty acids, to noni, to IP-6 to Microhydin,

> to

> Quercitin, to VMA's. It is my opinion that seizures COULD be in

> that

> kind of category (needing response modfiers), we don't want to

> overexcite

> some areas of the brain, and yet, in some places you need boosting.

> The

> fact of the matter is, why have we ever thought that the immune system

> and

> the nervous system are two different entitites? THEY ARE NOT. What

> will

> transpire, is that in my opinion, you hit a core level problem, and

> address

> the deficiencies one by one or in combination with a new diet, fixing

> the

> gut, fixing the emotions, fixing the environemnt, and then when you do

> that,

> you fix how the immune system responds, give it the amplitude it needs

> to

> handle the viruses and immune deficiencies rather than being

> overwhelmed and

> overburdened by the things that is weighing it down. This will help

> with

> hormone levels, the juices of seratonin work better, the antibodies

> against

> tissue start to heal, and then you reteach the whole body that self

> cells

> are ok, and non self, not ok. You get rid of the bigger things,

> then the

> lesser things. My son has been relatively seizure free for a long

> period

> of time becuase of that. We are working on taking off all meds, and

> am

> switching over to everything natural to control them. So far so

> good,

> knock on wood.

>

> I think the deep end is living with seizures all your life, and

> pouring down

> unhealthy meds, IMHO~

> Kathy

>

>

> [ ] Finding Answers

> > >

> > >

> > > > Kathy,

> > > >

> > > > You asked so many questions below. Do you have any advice on

> how to

> > >

> > > > find the answers? For example, how does a person know if they

> have

> > > a

> > > > problem with their immune system? What doctor can diagnose that

>

> > > > problem? Since you made all those suggestions, I assume you

> tackled

> > > all

> > > > those issues. It must have taken you a considerable amount of

> time

> > > to

> > > > find the answers. I personally do not see how anyone could do

> it

> > > > correctly on their own. Where did you go for help?

> > > >

> > > > Lamar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Also, go for the obvius things

> > > > > 1. Are you in a new home? (believe it or not riply, air tight

>

> > > doesn't

> > > > >

> > > > > always mean healthy)

> > > > > 2. Dental work with amalgams

> > > > > 3. Recent vaccinations

> > > > > 4. Gut problems/too much gluten and cassein (milk and wheat)

> > > > > 5. Prepensity to have mold or fungas in the house?

> > > > > 6. Stress, loss of sleep?

> > > > > 7. Viral process (stealth?) www.ccid.org , CMV? Herpes 6?

> > > > > 8. Hows the digestive juices?

> > > > > 9. Drink water, what kind?

> > > > > 10. Flouride in your water, your use on teeth?

> > > > > 11. How many black fillings do you have?

> > > > > 12. rid the house of all organophosphates, cleaners, volitile

>

> > > > > chemicals,

> > > > > green lawn person, work environment? etc

> > > > > 13. Any other health problems in the family?

> > > > > 14. Any thing wrong with the immune system?

> > > > > 15. Accident? Blow to head? Menengitis? Encephalitis? (as

> a

> > > child

> > > > > too?)

> > > > > 16. Vaccine injury as a child? Dpt or MMR? Are you mercury

> > > > > poisined?

> > > > > 17. What are your copper levels?

> > > > > 18. Zinc levels or other deficiencies?

> > > > > 19. Relaxation excercises, no tv watching (really-it

> outgasses)

> > > > > 20. What natural things do you take?

> > > > > 21. Diet too much carbos? Diet drinks?

> > > > > 22. Intake of protein, what kind?

> > > > > 23. Any fatty acid problems?

> > > > > 24. Coffee drinker?

> > > > >

> > > > > Answer some of these things and see a connection?

> >

> >

> >

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I had some help from good doctor friends, and parents just like me on where

to go.

Initially, I would do an immune panel with titres to EBV, CMV, Stealth, and

all vaccines.

Then I would go down deep with IgG, IgE, IgM, IgA and all subclasses.

Then after that delayed food panels, (preferabbly Great plains lab), stool

samples for bacteria, yeast and fungas

Then I would test for Mercury, in hair, blood and urine

Then I would have the house assesed-and throw out all the volitile things

you can, even take out rugs if needs be

Then I would go over the digestive issues accompnyanied with epilepsy,

recharge the diet

In my humble opinion, none of us will come out normal in these circumstances

of tests.

That is what you go for then, go for the weaknesses in your system and work

out, and onion

peel layer the problems. I account parents more smart than any doctor, go

with your gut.

Kathy

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> > >

> > >

> > > Tina -

> > >

> > > My daughter's MRI was normal. We had a test called MRS. It showed

> > damage

> > to

> > > the corpus closum, this didn't show up on the MRI. Hope this

> > helps,

> > >

> > >

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Zoe,

Thanks for the information. I bookmarked the website. The director of

Great Plans Lab is a former instructor at the University of Missouri.

That's where my college education began. Small world isn't it.

Lamar

zoe88025 wrote:

> Hi Lamar,

>

> Here's the link to Great Plains Lab. You'll find the information

> you need there.

> Zoe

> http://greatplainslaboratory.com/

>

>

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Charlene,

Yes, this happened to us as well.........we started when my son was nine

months old and over the next year or two he had all the tests they could

think of reasonably doing....all came back normal.......fortunately our

nuerologist said that was a good sign and to CONTINUE WITH REGULAR AND

INTENSIVE THERAPY, as long as he was responding to it. Since we were in an

early intervention program already and he was already responding we just

continued to do that. The team there did not " discharge " him at age three

like they did some of the " preemies " in his group, but referred him to the

public school system, which is responsible from age three to age 21. That

is really where our difficulties began because they operate from a different

philosophy...they are less family and more indidviduallly minded AND if the

child isn't failing by a certain margin, they refuse to provide services.

thus if your child has responded and improved with therapy they will

withdraw the therapy until they get enough behind again to put it in place

again. My advice is to get the therapy you can now and learn to live with

the mystery of WHY your child isn't " average " , while all the time pursuing

appropriate treatment and researching other tests/possible reasons for the

delay....always balancing your search for answers with quality,loving time

with your child. (later, after improved sleeping when the tonsils and

adenoids were removed, about two years after, we discovered after two more

hearing tests that he was deaf in left ear so another surgery to improve

that, but even these were not the full answer to what was going on...so at

age 7 1/2 we are still living with the mystery). Best Charlene, Carol (mom

to Micah and CJ)

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