Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 I just wanted to give you guys a gentle reminder about buying a used breastpump to collect your milk that you plan on giving to your baby. Home sterilizing isn't effective on most pumps, since the heat needed to kill bacteria and viruses can't be reached safely and for a long enough period without melting the pump pieces. Each mother produces antibodies for diseases and germs that are within *her* environment to protect *her* baby. You may never have any idea what sorts of organisms are living on the pump that will touch your breasts, and the milk that you give to your babies. It is a risk! Many pumps can't even be autoclaved safely -- a hospital sterilization process. The tubing, for example, is difficult to sterilize since the air inside the tubes won't reach the temperatures necessary to kill germs. Even the Pump In Style is considered a single-mother pump. There are parts within the pump that milk can touch, and the motor isnt sealed to prevent milk contamination. It isn't so much that you could get sick from a used pump, but that your milk could be contaminated and put your baby at risk! Another thing to remember is that most pumps have a life-span. The Medela Mini-Electric is said to last for only about 150 hours of use! The other electric diaphragm pumps are the same way, however, I don't know how many hours they are expected to function. Manual pumps also have a life span... and after so much use, their internal parts can get dry, crack, and be a breeding ground for bacteria. Please don't buy a used pump! If you need help paying for the pump, talk with the pump rental station/owner. I know there are grants, and several organizations that will pay for a pump, even WIC! You might even be able to work out payments. You will be saving HUNDREDS of dollars that you would otherwise be spending for formula if you werent pumping. Just buy a new pump outright. It isn't worth the risks of disease or breast tissue damage from an infected or defective breastpump!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 I was just reading the literature on my pump in style by medela and it says DO NOT buy a used pump - if you don't want to buy one, rent one from a reliable service (like a hospital) I am using my pump in style for the second time - I hope that is ok - I am about to order some new parts for it though since I use it every day and I boil it constantly! LOL! Felicia Hannah 12/10/97 Tarah 3/31/99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 , Good point. I didn't think about the other parts of the pump. I just assumed that the parts that come off are the only ones that can get contaminated. Thanks for pointing this out. I went to the auction houses last night and the Avent Isis was selling for about $30 which is only $10 under a new one. I didn't bid because I figured having a new one for $10 more would be better, now I am glad I trusted my instincts. You always think of the little details, thanks again. Wendi WARNING: Used pumps I just wanted to give you guys a gentle reminder about buying a used breastpump to collect your milk that you plan on giving to your baby. Home sterilizing isn't effective on most pumps, since the heat needed to kill bacteria and viruses can't be reached safely and for a long enough period without melting the pump pieces. Each mother produces antibodies for diseases and germs that are within *her* environment to protect *her* baby. You may never have any idea what sorts of organisms are living on the pump that will touch your breasts, and the milk that you give to your babies. It is a risk! Many pumps can't even be autoclaved safely -- a hospital sterilization process. The tubing, for example, is difficult to sterilize since the air inside the tubes won't reach the temperatures necessary to kill germs. Even the Pump In Style is considered a single-mother pump. There are parts within the pump that milk can touch, and the motor isnt sealed to prevent milk contamination. It isn't so much that you could get sick from a used pump, but that your milk could be contaminated and put your baby at risk! Another thing to remember is that most pumps have a life-span. The Medela Mini-Electric is said to last for only about 150 hours of use! The other electric diaphragm pumps are the same way, however, I don't know how many hours they are expected to function. Manual pumps also have a life span... and after so much use, their internal parts can get dry, crack, and be a breeding ground for bacteria. Please don't buy a used pump! If you need help paying for the pump, talk with the pump rental station/owner. I know there are grants, and several organizations that will pay for a pump, even WIC! You might even be able to work out payments. You will be saving HUNDREDS of dollars that you would otherwise be spending for formula if you werent pumping. Just buy a new pump outright. It isn't worth the risks of disease or breast tissue damage from an infected or defective breastpump!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shop.theglobe.com * One-Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! Accessories, Apparel, Jewelry, Kids, Sporting Goods, Apparel, More!! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Breastfeeding is Best!! http://www.maclee.com/breastfeeding If you like this list also check out http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/weanedbuddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 You guys got me all in a panic as I just got a used PiS!!! I called the surgical supply where I'm renting my current pump & they offered to sterilize my pump with the same procedure they use for the rentals. I have all my own tubing & horns. I feel a lttle better now, but ha I known about this earlier I probably would have just bitte the bullt & bought a new one. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 There is nothing wrong with a used pump as long as you sterilize it. The pump makers of course want us all to buy a NEW one. Yours is in the mail. I sent it today. Mom was broke Sherry SAHM to (8), (4), Kaitlyn (2), and baby born 12/17/98. *Breast fed is best fed* Re: WARNING: Used pumps From: ST3PH3@... (Stevie) You guys got me all in a panic as I just got a used PiS!!! I called the surgical supply where I'm renting my current pump & they offered to sterilize my pump with the same procedure they use for the rentals. I have all my own tubing & horns. I feel a lttle better now, but ha I known about this earlier I probably would have just bitte the bullt & bought a new one. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Share the wealth! http://www.ONElist.com Tell a friend about ONElist's 130,000 free e-mail communities! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Breastfeeding is Best!! http://www.maclee.com/breastfeeding If you like this list also check out http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/weanedbuddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 YES, You can have thrush even if you have no symptoms if he has it. YOU BOTH need to be treated EVEN IF ONLY ONE of you has symtoms! Re: WARNING: Used pumps From: ST3PH3@... (Stevie) Thanks Sherry! I sent you the check too. Tell me what you paid for shipping...I didn't even think to add extra. I have been such a goon lately has thrush again too, & it's making me crazy. I have been tryng to stockpile some mik to give to the sitter, & now I have to use it right away. I go to work May 17th, how am I gonna get any milk stashed to feed him if he keeps getting this damn shit?? Sorry for the french! Any ideas?? I see nothing but a purple mess in our future. Is it possible to have thrush in my ducts if I have no symptoms?? Obviously the nystatin isn't doing the job. I had to fight with them to give me ointmet for myself, I guess I need to fight for an antibiotic as well. Gotta pick up a...see what you can come up with. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Little Tikes Creative Arts Studio. Designed for your little artist!! Gigantic Art Table w/ swivel chair, light, drawers, caddy, Ages 4-8 Satisfaction Guaranteed ** No-Hassle Returns ** Free Shipping in U.S. http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Breastfeeding is Best!! http://www.maclee.com/breastfeeding If you like this list also check out http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/weanedbuddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Stevie, The colloidal silver might be something that could work for you. You can take it internally and apply it externally on you and . He can drink some in a bottle. Zaid loves it. I know it can be really expensive in stores. The best way is with a generator. I just hope that whatever you use works great and you can start stockpiling right away. Wendi Re: WARNING: Used pumps From: ST3PH3@... (Stevie) Thanks Sherry! I sent you the check too. Tell me what you paid for shipping...I didn't even think to add extra. I have been such a goon lately has thrush again too, & it's making me crazy. I have been tryng to stockpile some mik to give to the sitter, & now I have to use it right away. I go to work May 17th, how am I gonna get any milk stashed to feed him if he keeps getting this damn shit?? Sorry for the french! Any ideas?? I see nothing but a purple mess in our future. Is it possible to have thrush in my ducts if I have no symptoms?? Obviously the nystatin isn't doing the job. I had to fight with them to give me ointmet for myself, I guess I need to fight for an antibiotic as well. Gotta pick up a...see what you can come up with. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Little Tikes Creative Arts Studio. Designed for your little artist!! Gigantic Art Table w/ swivel chair, light, drawers, caddy, Ages 4-8 Satisfaction Guaranteed ** No-Hassle Returns ** Free Shipping in U.S. http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Breastfeeding is Best!! http://www.maclee.com/breastfeeding If you like this list also check out http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/weanedbuddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Thanks Sherry! I sent you the check too. Tell me what you paid for shipping...I didn't even think to add extra. I have been such a goon lately has thrush again too, & it's making me crazy. I have been tryng to stockpile some mik to give to the sitter, & now I have to use it right away. I go to work May 17th, how am I gonna get any milk stashed to feed him if he keeps getting this damn shit?? Sorry for the french! Any ideas?? I see nothing but a purple mess in our future. Is it possible to have thrush in my ducts if I have no symptoms?? Obviously the nystatin isn't doing the job. I had to fight with them to give me ointmet for myself, I guess I need to fight for an antibiotic as well. Gotta pick up a...see what you can come up with. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 antibiotics can CAUSE yeast. Re: WARNING: Used pumps , I guess I need to fight for an antibiotic as well. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 I thought colloidal silver had antibiotic properties? If so how would that help thrush since that causes the yeast to get out of control to start with. Can you see about getting a prescription for Nizoral? I took that for 15 days and it worked. The may also have alt for . Shipping was $9.00. Sherry SAHM to (8), (4), Kaitlyn (2), and baby born 12/17/98. *Breast fed is best fed* Re: WARNING: Used pumps From: ST3PH3@... (Stevie) Thanks Sherry! I sent you the check too. Tell me what you paid for shipping...I didn't even think to add extra. I have been such a goon lately has thrush again too, & it's making me crazy. I have been tryng to stockpile some mik to give to the sitter, & now I have to use it right away. I go to work May 17th, how am I gonna get any milk stashed to feed him if he keeps getting this damn shit?? Sorry for the french! Any ideas?? I see nothing but a purple mess in our future. Is it possible to have thrush in my ducts if I have no symptoms?? Obviously the nystatin isn't doing the job. I had to fight with them to give me ointmet for myself, I guess I need to fight for an antibiotic as well. Gotta pick up a...see what you can come up with. Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Little Tikes Creative Arts Studio. Designed for your little artist!! Gigantic Art Table w/ swivel chair, light, drawers, caddy, Ages 4-8 Satisfaction Guaranteed ** No-Hassle Returns ** Free Shipping in U.S. http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Breastfeeding is Best!! http://www.maclee.com/breastfeeding If you like this list also check out http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/weanedbuddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 >There is nothing wrong with a used pump as long as you sterilize it. The >pump makers of course want us all to buy a NEW one. If pumps were truly profitable, Evenflo and Gerber wouldn't sell theirs under $20. It's not that the pump makers want you to buy new ones, its an honest risk of cross-contamination. Especially if you buy a used pump from someone you don't know. If it is a family member, or a close friend, you have an inkling about their personal health, and would probably know if they had a communicable disease. Even La Leche League, who doesnt make a profit from the sale of pumps, recommends not sharing pumps because of cross-contamination. The motor inside the Pump In Style isnt sealed, like a rental pump motor, and cannot be sterilized. There is a potential for cross-contamination with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 In a message dated 4/28/99 6:04:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, angehowe@... writes: << Also, talk to your doctor about Diflucan. At this point, you need more than a single dose treatment. Most lactation consultants (and it might help if you had one for this prescription) recommend a *loading dose* of 400 mgs followed by 200 mgs for several days. >> we have thrush, my midwife just today said she doesnt give diflucan to bfding mothers! now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Okay, this has raised a question......what is the differance in buying a used pump and renting one. Isn't the rented ones just like a used one? Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 >Thanks Sherry! I sent you the check too. Tell me what you paid for >shipping...I didn't even think to add extra. I have been such a goon >lately has thrush again too, & it's making me crazy. I have >been tryng to stockpile some mik to give to the sitter, & now I have to >use it right away. I go to work May 17th, how am I gonna get any milk >stashed to feed him if he keeps getting this damn shit?? Sorry for the >french! Any ideas?? I see nothing but a purple mess in our future. Is it >possible to have thrush in my ducts if I have no symptoms?? Obviously >the nystatin isn't doing the job. I had to fight with them to give me >ointmet for myself, I guess I need to fight for an antibiotic as well. >Gotta pick up a...see what you can come up with. > >Stevie~Mommy to a 10/10/96 & 2/22/99 Oh Stevie, do I hate to tell you this! You can re-infect a baby with thrush if you give him milk that has yeast in it from a prior infection. Antibiotics are a good cause for yeast to grow in your body while you are taking them, but you *dont* need antibiotics to treat yeast; it will make it worse! Let me check with a friend about heating milk before you use it to see if that is one way to kill thrush that it in stored breast milk. That way you wont have to give up on the milk supply you have stored so far! Also, talk to your doctor about Diflucan. At this point, you need more than a single dose treatment. Most lactation consultants (and it might help if you had one for this prescription) recommend a *loading dose* of 400 mgs followed by 200 mgs for several days. But then again, if you dont have any symptoms, and isnt uncomfortabl from the yeast infection, you might try using Gentian Violet plus an elimination diet for a while --cut out all sugar and yeast products (bread) -- while you use the GV. Yeast can become resistant to Nystatin, and it sounds like yours is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Thanks for the information. I only wished I had known this before I loaned my breast pump out. It is a Pump In Style, and I only loaned the pump and not the tubing or anything else. What do you recommend now? I may never need it again, but hopefully I will! Now, even though I still breastfeed, I have no need for pumping, but I do hope to have one more child and had planned on using this pump again. Thanks in advance. Lori WARNING: Used pumps I just wanted to give you guys a gentle reminder about buying a used breastpump to collect your milk that you plan on giving to your baby. Home sterilizing isn't effective on most pumps, since the heat needed to kill bacteria and viruses can't be reached safely and for a long enough period without melting the pump pieces. Each mother produces antibodies for diseases and germs that are within *her* environment to protect *her* baby. You may never have any idea what sorts of organisms are living on the pump that will touch your breasts, and the milk that you give to your babies. It is a risk! Many pumps can't even be autoclaved safely -- a hospital sterilization process. The tubing, for example, is difficult to sterilize since the air inside the tubes won't reach the temperatures necessary to kill germs. Even the Pump In Style is considered a single-mother pump. There are parts within the pump that milk can touch, and the motor isnt sealed to prevent milk contamination. It isn't so much that you could get sick from a used pump, but that your milk could be contaminated and put your baby at risk! Another thing to remember is that most pumps have a life-span. The Medela Mini-Electric is said to last for only about 150 hours of use! The other electric diaphragm pumps are the same way, however, I don't know how many hours they are expected to function. Manual pumps also have a life span... and after so much use, their internal parts can get dry, crack, and be a breeding ground for bacteria. Please don't buy a used pump! If you need help paying for the pump, talk with the pump rental station/owner. I know there are grants, and several organizations that will pay for a pump, even WIC! You might even be able to work out payments. You will be saving HUNDREDS of dollars that you would otherwise be spending for formula if you werent pumping. Just buy a new pump outright. It isn't worth the risks of disease or breast tissue damage from an infected or defective breastpump!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Shop.theglobe.com * One-Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in U.S.! Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! Accessories, Apparel, Jewelry, Kids, Sporting Goods, Apparel, More!! http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Breastfeeding is Best!! http://www.maclee.com/breastfeeding If you like this list also check out http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/weanedbuddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 1999 Report Share Posted April 30, 1999 Ditto - just bought a PIS 2nd hand from a friend. I am going to get a new set of tubes/parts this weekend. Hmmmmmm.... mommy to Corey 4/27/99 it's so fun to write that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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