Re: update on first three days

[Guest guest]

Louise,

A good start to the first three days. however, Rice is not legal. In

fact Elaine's daughter Judy tried to add this food back first and

after I think thirteen years on SCD she got bleeding from it right

away. Even if it is not a grain (which it is..) it is a

starch.....not allowed on SCD. This is the first advice I would

recommend.......drop the rice.

Here are a few hints I had to learn about MCS and SCD. I need to

rotate because often the foods I am replacing illegals with are worse

for me than the illegals themselves as far as sensitivity alone. Some

I can tell......many I was masked to in different ways.

I do have serum and access to food testing...........black pepper was

surprisingly bad for me. So look at the oils and little things that

you may be taking in so small amounts that you can not detect the

food reaction. Honestly I am just not using these anymore. I bake my

meat plain in water in a glass pan.

SCD does not have to be this plain and boring......but for me it has

to for now because I am sensitive to all the spices and many of the

oils.

Also, I had to change to cast iron pans. I was so sensitive to

stainless steel that it was getting into my food from my cookware and

contaminating even legal food that I did not react to.

I just recently lost eggs (through food testing) and tried to eat it

yesterday and had a return of " d " . So if you suspect a food you can

remove for four days and then readd to sometimes see more syptoms

from it.

I understand about trying to tell detox from a reaction. I was tring

to do that with a brand of vit c I am trying just yesterday.

Good luck. Please email me offlist or through MSC canada with any

other questions regarding MCS and SCD. I see Dr. Rea in Dallas,TX so

I speak mostly from his brand of advice.

Many here get a bit nervous about talk of MCS since it is slightly

off topic for SCD and most do not have this problem or do not know

they have it.

However, there are at least three or four others who do. On this list

we mostly talk only baout the SCD part of it.

Have a great day. Michele

>

> I started the diet on Monday. I doubt I can handle grape juice at

all,

> although I may be able to flavor water with it. I diluted it and

experienced

> low blood sugar symptoms.

>

> By Tuesday night I was detoxing too fast, and felt as if I had the

flu, hot

> and cold, feeling toxic and dizzy, etc. Same Wed. morning.

>

> My detox system is very compromised and I have to be careful not to

detox

> too fast. So yesterday before I started travelling, I cooked some

squash and

> ate a small amount. That helped a little.

>

> I had an IV yesterday so now it will be difficult to tell what is

going on.

> I think what was in it was a high amount of glutathione (I've been

working

> on increasing glutathione for many years) and small amounts of a few

> minerals. I'm okay, but I'm detoxing some. Otherwise, better as far

as

> energy, because of the IV and perhaps because of the diet.

>

> Last week I started to notice a few pollen allergy symptoms, since

we are

> experiencing an early spring. I know that grains can affect

hayfever. I'm

> not sure if rice does or not. My pollen allergies are usually under

control

> compared to my friends who eat wheat. However, I don't have access

to

> desensitization serum, so yesterday I got a homeopathic remedy, in

case I

> need it.

>

> I don't seem to be having any trouble with BMs, so that's a relief,

because

> I thought I might on the diet.

>

> I did have some shakiness as a result of the grape juice and

egg/curd. I

> know I likely should not have tried! I may try again soon now that

I've had

> the IV and am upping my thyroid.

>

> I got some throat sensations related to green beans and to spinach,

I think.

> The green beans were not organic, so I need to wait until I can

find organic

> green beans. Perhaps I've never tolerated spinach well, but

whatever, a

> friend muscle-tested me yesterday and sure enough I'm not tolerating

> spinach, at the moment.

>

> Food sensitivities can be strange sometimes and depend on a lot of

factors.

> Ideally I'd like to get enough " good " foods so that I can start

rotating

> them; otherwise, I may lose more.

>

> Sometimes I react to foods several hours later or even the next day.

>

> I know that over the last few years I've purposely 'masked' some of

my foods

> so that it was easier for me to eat a variety of foods. Now, of

course, I'm

> once more 'unmasking'. Is that a term you're familiar with?

>

> At this point:

>

> Good -- sole, carrots, zucchini, squash, 100% organic lemon

concentrate in

> water (very little)

>

> Questionable -- green beans (might just need organic), chicken and

turkey

> (but I feel as if I can't lose these!), broth, pearsauce (might be

okay),

> 1/2 banana (might be okay but not good for blood sugar?)

>

> Likely not good -- grape juice, spinach, eggs, dairy

>

> I realize I'm going too fast, and I'll try to reduce my speed of

testing. It

> was tempting for me to try the grape juice, eggs, and curds, but

likely not

> good for someone with food sensitivities.

>

> I may have lost 4.5 pounds.

>

> I feel as if I'm going to need to be careful about the detox. I've

heard

> too, that when a person has allergies and food/chemical

sensitivities, it is

> important not to fast. I realize I'm eating and not fasting, but I

may need

> to monitor things carefully so my system can handle the detox.

>

> I may be wrong, but I think I have a fairly good handle on what is a

> reaction to food and what is detox, even though they can be similar.

>

> Oh, I went off all my nutritional supplements until Tuesday evening

but then

> I knew I needed to add them back in in order to be able to get

through the

> day travelling on Wed. I think that I was missing the Bs and the

ChondroCare

> product I'm on. I had way too much pain in my muscles and I may

have started

> going into depression. I think that I'll still take supplements

until I can

> sort out if any of them are bothering me or not. I may need to rely

on

> muscle testing for awhile, but I'll check the ingredients. I think

all of my

> supplements are wheat-free, soy-free, dairy-free, etc.

>

> I had already reduced my enzymes and had gone off betaine before

the diet.

> Oh, I've been drinking a little lemon flavored water which does

help my

> digestion.

>

> The neatest thing is that my BMs are great. They usually are good,

but I can

> go through times when I'll have some D or maybe even C. I'm so much

better

> than when I was growing up or when I was living as a young adult in

Mexico

> and the Philippines.

>

> I did talk over with my ND about getting a comprehensive stool test

or maybe

> the antibody candida test, but we never got our act together

yesterday fast

> enough, so I won't be doing any testing for a bit. Maybe in April.

I need to

> study and pray about the different tests and see if I want

to " waste " money

> on them or not. I guess my main purpose would be to see if I still

have

> candida or not, and then check in a couple of years to see what the

> difference is.

>

> thanks for all your help,

> Louise

> scd--Feb. 25/08

> food sensitivities and candida

> ME/CFS, MCS, FM--severely ill since 1973

> Vancouver Island

>

[Guest guest]

Louise,

I forgot to mention that some common recommendations for detox

symtpoms are epsom salt baths and activated charcoal. I do not know

if you tolerate these but this is often recommended to those going

through the initial detox and the every three month flares that most

experience.........

I also wanted to mention that for whatever reason I never did well

with the beginning diet of chicken soup.........I started with a stir

fry of veggies and beef in olive oil in my first week of the diet and

did marvelously well with this probably because I am mostly

nonreactive to these things.

This is horrible advice......but I try to eat things that I am NOT

drawn to. If I love it I am usually sensitive to it. It is ironic and

not helpful, I know. But when I eat something that is plain and

boring to me I am usually ok with it and do not react. It contrasts

with the psychology of trying to to SCD.......and it may not be good

advice for the first few days.

Somewhere there are stages that may be very helpful to you. These are

just a guideline of foods that most introduce well earlier or later.

I do not have it boookmarked.

Michele

[Guest guest]

At 01:20 PM 2/28/2008, you wrote:

I know that grains can affect

hayfever. I'm not sure if rice does or not.

Louise,

Rice is considered a grain on SCD. It's forbidden. Elaine's daughter

tried to add rice back in after YEARS on SCD, and got immediate bleeding

and, I believe, other symptoms. She stopped it, and the symptoms stopped.

She tried it again, after some months, and the symptoms

returned.

Remember, we're eliminating all starches, aka polysaccharides, and all

sugars which are not monosaccharides.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

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