Re: Stages

[Guest guest]

I believe the broth is pretty important as it is supposed to be good

for inflammation. Same for the gelatin, I think.

Susie

Louise wrote:

Do some

people work out their own stages rather than following the pecanbread

chart stages?

I think from what I'm reading that some people need to

go by what is best for them.

If the stages are not as

important as finding out what I tolerate and don't tolerate, then it

will be easier for me to eat more of a variety of food. I already know a lot about which foods I

tolerate and which ones I don't. I suppose it's best for me to keep

going back and forth reading between the book recommendations for

beginners and the stages in the pecanbread chart, and to figure out

things myself.

For example:

I have a long history of not tolerating dairy

and eggs; beef and pork; fruits and juices. Although I can eat eggs a

little now, and I'm doing better with fruits, I still don't eat dairy,

beef, pork, oranges, and don't usually drink juices. I think I may be

able to tolerate dairy a little bit better than I used to, and I sure

would like to be able to.

I don't intend to try making yogurt yet.

When I do, it'll likely be nut yogurt.

I will likely do better on turkey,

sole, zucchini, carrots, asparagus, and squash, rather than if I use much grape juice, apples, yogurt,

eggs, beef, or pork. I just went to the store and I found some baby

organic spinach, so I'm going to add

them to the list.

There is no

organic zucchini around right now, but I have a little in the refrigerator to use

up, so that's one reason I want to begin now, instead of waiting for a few days which I

originally intended to do. I do well on zucchini, carrots, sole, and turkey, and that's what I have in

my fridge.

If I follow the pecanbread site stages:

My Intro

day or two will likely be:

turkey, sole, and carrots. I

don't know if I'll get broth made or not. If I could add zucchini, it would help. I

noticed that Marilyn said lemon juice to Ellen, so I don't know if I

could use it during the Intro days or not. I often use lemon juice

before a meal for digestive purposes.

I have not

been able to find organic grape juice

in a glass jar recently.

Welch's is in plastic in my stores, and I assume it's not organic, so

I'd like to avoid using it. But I have

some 100% organic grape juice which I froze, so I think I'm going to

dilute it and use it in order to keep me happy.:-)

My Stage 1

days will likely be: sole, turkey, carrots, zucchini, spinach, maybe

chicken, maybe green beans, maybe 1/2 banana if the bananas ripen, and

perhaps pearsauce. However, I might do

better, if I could eat squash, asparagus, and other veggies, but I think they are

later, if I follow the chart. I'm

getting the idea that lemon juice might be okay.

I'm nervous

and excited!

Louise

Vancouver Island

food sensitivities and candida

ME/CFS, MCS, FM--severely ill since 1973

scd--Feb. 25/08 (I think!)

[Guest guest]

Just to make sure I understand, you don't have to have an Intro diet at

all. Just eat anything that you want as long as it's on the legal list?

Is that correct?

Thanks,

Susie

Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

Louise,

Welcome to the list, and glad to have you, although sorry you need to

be

here.

<g> Depending on finances, I may be out your way in the

not-too-distant future. Harry (my husband) and I are investigating the

possibility of a rammed earth house by Terra Firma Builders, who are on

Salt Spring Island.

I managed to lose 35 pounds last year, but this year, it's not going

well.

Like you, I'm a writer, and WISH I could do artwork! (My sister got the

artwork talent in our family.)

The Pecan Bread stages are a guide, nothing more. They didn't exist

when

I started SCD. I ate pork roast, beef roast, steamed zucchini and

soft-boiled eggs. That was what I tolerated -- and besides, my husband

is

NOT a cook, and I could tell him how to set this up for me.

If turkey and fish and a couple beginning vegetables work best for you,

go for it. The object of the intro is to give your body easy to digest

food while it eliminates all the illegals. As Dr. Gee said,

"That which the patient takes, beyond his ability to digest, does

harm."

You will have to be very careful of even organic fruit juices as they

often contain "evaporated cane juice," which is sugar by any

other name. Welch's (now in plastic instead of glass), Kedem, and the

Knudsen "Just Juice" line are all legal.

I don't do a lot of fruit, either.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lou. Yes I have the book, but I could be looking right at it

and not see it. I'm hoping my brain will get better on the diet too.

One thing I did read was on page 60, she says "there is no specific

schedule for introducing foods with the exception of homemade yogurt".

Does anyone know what she means by that? I noticed that on pg 69,

cheesecake is one of the allowed foods on the intro diet, so I'm

confused about her statement on pg 60.

Thanks Katy Misty and Grammy for helping to clear up some of my

confusion. :-)

Susie

Beginner SCD

KitCabSource@... wrote:

In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:33:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

hayley3psci (DOT) net writes:

Just to make sure I understand, you don't have to have an

Intro diet at all. Just eat anything that you want as long as it's on

the legal list?

Is that correct?

Thanks,

Susie

Hi Susie,

I dont think you got that one right. Do you have a copy of

BTVC yet? The intro diet, I thought was important. Some people chose to

skip the intro but that is their own choice. The diet calls for frantic

adherence to achieve results, so I think by skipping or cheating in the

beginning is a bad idea.

All The Best, Lou

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[Guest guest]

"there is no specific schedule for introducing foods with the exception of homemade yogurt" i'm intersted in this statement also as i am not tolerating it and have been intro since feb 5. thanks, misty kimble walker, la cd scd - jan 5 08Susie wrote: Thanks Lou. Yes I have the book, but I could be looking right at it and not see it. I'm hoping my brain will get better on the diet

too.One thing I did read was on page 60, she says "there is no specific schedule for introducing foods with the exception of homemade yogurt". Does anyone know what she means by that? I noticed that on pg 69, cheesecake is one of the allowed foods on the intro diet, so I'm confused about her statement on pg 60.Thanks Katy Misty and Grammy for helping to clear up some of my confusion. :-) SusieBeginner SCDKitCabSourceaol wrote: In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:33:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, hayley3psci (DOT) net writes: Just to make sure I understand, you don't have to have an Intro diet at all. Just eat anything that you want as long as it's on the legal list?Is that correct?Thanks,Susie Hi Susie, I dont think you got that one right. Do you have a copy of BTVC yet? The intro diet, I thought was important. Some people chose to skip the intro but that is their own choice. The diet calls for frantic adherence to achieve results, so I think by skipping or cheating in the beginning is a bad idea. All The Best, Lou Delicious ideas to please the

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[Guest guest]

Misty, the cheesecake cooks the yogurt so there is no active bacteria in it. It is kind of used for a filler. On the intro Elaine mentions that you can also use a little yogurt in the DCCC to moisten it. That would only be a little bit. When you do the intro you are minus the good bacteria while you start starving out the bad bacteria. It then leaves room and that is where the yogurt comes in to fill the spots of the dead bad bacteria. It then starts to repopulate the area so that eventually it becomes balanced. Katy

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Thanks for the explanation!!! Guess my gut just isn't ready for the DCCC. I don't think it's the yogurt, but since I ate them together I can't be sure. I started back with a couple TBS of yogurt yesterday and so far so good. Misty Kimble , LA CD SCD - Jan 5 08"kplatt@..." wrote: Misty, the cheesecake cooks the yogurt so there is no active bacteria in it. It is kind of used for a filler. On the intro Elaine mentions that you

can also use a little yogurt in the DCCC to moisten it. That would only be a little bit. When you do the intro you are minus the good bacteria while you start starving out the bad bacteria. It then leaves room and that is where the yogurt comes in to fill the spots of the dead bad bacteria. It then starts to repopulate the area so that eventually it becomes balanced. Katy _____________________________________________________________Click now for great deals on quality business cards!

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[Guest guest]

Susie,

You should do the intro diet. When you are still healing, your body cannot digest more advanced foods. The undigested material feeds the bad bacteria, so even if these advanced foods are on the legal list, they act as illegal foods. Anything you cannot digest properly is illegal. The foods on the intro diet are the easiest to digest foods so you should start with these and add new foods cautiously. As you heal, your body can digest more advanced foods. The stages of the pecanbread site are a good guideline, but you still have to observe your reactions. For example, carrots do not agree with some people even after they are ok on the intro diet for a while. It depends on the individual person. If you have no problems, then that is great. If you do experience symptoms, then you should cut back and wait to reintroduce those foods.

Best of luck,

Sheena

Posted by: "Susie" hayley3@... mohair3

Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:33 am (PST)

Just to make sure I understand, you don't have to have an Intro diet at all. Just eat anything that you want as long as it's on the legal list?Is that correct?Thanks,SusieShed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more.