Re: ND

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In a message dated 6/12/99 8:12:23 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

docsol@... writes:

<< I don't think an ND is an MD. or DO. unless they don't use those

credentials.

>>

An ND - Doctor of Naturopathy - is NOT an MD or DO. I am taking a

correspondence program through Clayton College of Natural Health, currently

working on my BS in Natural Health, but hoping to get my ND someday. To kind

of give you and idea of what ND's do and don't do:

Naturopaths help their clients evaluate their lifestyles to eliminate the

causes of poor health. They teach their clients how to achieve and maintain

good health, recognizing the healing power of nature and honoring the total

person. Naturopaths treat their clients as physical, mental and spiritual

beings and educate their clients to take care of all areas of their lives.

Naturopaths do not diagnose disease and they do not prescribe drugs and

pharmaceuticals, nor do they perform invasive procedures. Some of the tools

Naturopaths use in teaching their clients how to take care of themselves, may

include herbal and homeopathic remedies, food and nutritional supplements,

and hands-on modalities such as massage, reflexology and acupressure.

I hope this helps clear things up some.

Take care,

Kim

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is an ND a nutrition dr? Not familiar with the letters. I am in the

process of getting my son to a nutritionist. if that's what you mean i'll

let you know how it goes.

m.l.

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> I would be interested to hear any positive or negative opinions on

> seeing an ND. Our insurance does not cover, but I would like my

> children to go to one.

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Sorry.....naturopathic doctor. We've already seen a

nutritionist....not much help.

Traci

--- In @y..., Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@s...>

wrote:

> is an ND a nutrition dr?

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I've had wonderful results with our ND. I was skeptical but since the medical

community could not seem to help my son any longer, I felt we needed to try

something else. He's the one that finally got my son to settle back down again

and it was on all-natural stuff. We were then able to take him off of one of

his medications. We are hoping to get him off all of his medications in time.

I really don't want Mark to have to take resperdal and adderall for long. And I

have arthritis that medical drs are quick to treat with medications that have

horrible long-term side effects. I've had arthritis my whole life but at 19 it

got worse. Anyway, 60+ years would be a very long time to take those

medications which can cause kidney and liver damage. The ND gave me something

that has helped quite a bit as long as I take it before it gets too bad. So

it's worth a try.

Good luck,

Tammy

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I would be interested to hear any positive or negative opinions on

seeing an ND.

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I'm interested in knowing a bit more.

Lynn

> Sorry.....naturopathic doctor. We've already seen a

> nutritionist....not much help.

>

> Traci

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I believe that it is important to look at " alternative " treatments.

I have not been to a traditional ND--our ND has developed a unique

system of diagnosing and treating illness which strays a bit from

what he was taught in school (if I understand correctly). We have

seen great improvements and cures in many of our health issues.

When we were ridding ourselves of fungi, we followed a sugar-free

grain-free diet (only for the week or so that we were taking Caprylic

Acid or Pau d'Arco). That meant that we had to avoid all sweets,

fruit juice and fruit, breads, bagels, muffins, pastas, cereals,

potatoes, sweet potatoes, cheese and mushrooms. As I understand it,

sugars feed many infections and weaken the immune system, and the

removal of the grain-based things from the diet removed food for the

fungus, and the Caprylic Acid or Pau d'Arco helped the body do what

it needed to attack the fungus. I would not suggest that you

supplement these things, though, without consulting with an ND. When

my son was severely deficient in B12, the ND mentioned that the

infections were what depleted my son of this vitamin and that if we

had supplemented him before getting rid of the infections, we would

have been providing more food for the infections thereby causing them

to grow larger. I am obviously over-simplifying but that's the gist--

as I understand it--and that's why I don't supplement first without

checking.

My son is still not really verbal--after getting rid of several

infections and fungus--but I have seen marked improvements after

finishing certain " remedies " . I don't think my son was " purely

apraxic " but also had greater issues. He has started putting two

words together finally (he'll be 4 in October) and the joy of that

has been incredible.

Good luck in your quest!

BTW, my ND charges $100 (Canadian) for the first visit, $75 for the

next and $35 for subsequent visits. That excludes the cost of

herbs. He doesn't need to send us for labs because he tests for

infections in his office.

> I would be interested to hear any positive or negative opinions on

> seeing an ND. Our insurance does not cover, but I would like my

> children to go to one. It will be 90.00 each initial visit and

about

> 75 there after per visit plus meds and labs. My reason is my son

has

> had allergy like symptoms for over 2 years and no MD can figure out

> what's going on and no meds work. (steroids have only made it

worse,

> so I'm guessing some fungus overgrowth???) The MD finally told

> me " some kids are just more sensitive to fungus than others, so

live

> w/ it. " Ok, thanks. And everyone knows my daughters issues w/

> apraxia, hypotonia, and SID/DSI. I figure since the proefa is doing

> such wonders for her, I should look into other supplements w/ the

> guidance of an ND.

> Any comments welcome! Traci mom to Kennedy 2.1

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Leza,

You can probably find an experienced iodine doctor pretty easily in Las Vegas

because Nevada's state laws are very friendly to so-called " alternative "

(integrative) health care practitioners, unlike many other states where their

state medical boards are hostile to anything outside of Modern Mainstream

Medicine.

Look for someone listed in one of these two groups (links below), using their

doctor referral search engines, but I must warn you that it will be necessary to

screen the offices by questioning the receptionists before booking your first

appointment in order to avoid any expensive disappointment.

http://www.acamnet.org/site/c.ltJWJ4MPIwE/b.2772303/k.87A2/PhysicianLink_Find_a_\

Doctor/apps/kb/cs/contactsearch.asp

http://www.aaemonline.org/Referable_Physicians.html

Not everyone whose name is on one of these two referral lists will be

experienced with iodine therapy as taught by Dr. Brownstein. Some of them

will have their own ideas about it, so be sure to ask if they follow Dr.

Brownstein's approach since his books are so well known.

Also, Dr. Brownstein has lectured about iodine therapy before these two groups

at their annual medical conferences so almost all of them will have heard of his

approach, but that does not guarantee that all of them will agree with his ideas

in favor of their own ideas about it.

The advantage of finding an MD or a DO (over an ND) is that NDs are not licensed

(in most states) to do venipuncture, so they cannot draw blood to test for

thyroid levels or any other similar blood tests. Likewise, NPs (Nurse

Practitioners - aka: ANP = Advanced Nurse Practitioner) are licensed to do

venipuncture, so anyone with that designation would be a good choice also.

NPs must practice under the license of a supervising MD or DO, but they do not

always have to practice in the same office with them -- although there's usually

a set distance (such as a 75 mile radius), depending on each state's medical

statutes. This is an advantage in remote rural areas because it increases access

to medical care in those medically underserved regions.

>

> Is there a list of recommended drs? We live in las Vegas. My son has many

issues that are not getting resolved.

>

> Leza Heed

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