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In a message dated 4/14/00 2:25:25 AM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< Hi n,

You have to watch out what we say on this list because someone on this

list is informing the people we talk about directly to them. I had this

happen to me when I posted about the pricing of immunopro. I then got an

email from the immunopro distributor. It appears everything we say on this

list can and will be used against us.

Al >>

Or else Keenan has joined and is reading the posts. I got the same

email when I suggested that someone might want to distribute Pro. I think we

need to look at some of the cheaper 'bulk' wheys and see if we take enough,

if we can get the same benefit.

Mike

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In a message dated 4/14/00 2:25:25 AM Central Daylight Time,

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<< Hi

If I were taking all of those medications, I would have to say that I was

over-medicated and would consult with a physician to selectively analyze

these combinations and there effect.

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Geez , no kidding. I am sure this person isn't getting all these meds

from

the same doc, and the other doc(s) prob don't know what she is taking. Seems

like the prozac and ritalin would be enough to give me a stroke!

> Now, I'm on Gluphage, which I have been told is techniquely a diabetes

medicine. I also take Tegratol, Prozac, Ritalin SR, Klonapin, allegra,

medrin, NOrtipltiline, CoQ, Chromium, and melatonin.>

Mike

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I do not know about the Gluphage but there is nothing wrong with the scripts

listed below. I have pared down my scripts but I have been on a similar med list

in the past. If this is an effective

combination so be it. There should be no drug interaction problem with this

approach. Also if these drugs are all taken in small amount it may be better

than taking few drugs in large amounts --

especially the klonopin since it can be addictive.

Steve

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> > Now, I'm on Gluphage, which I have been told is techniquely a diabetes

> medicine. I also take Tegratol, Prozac, Ritalin SR, Klonapin, allegra,

> medrin, NOrtipltiline, CoQ, Chromium, and melatonin.>

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> Mike

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Jim,

And here they come.... the only comment I have is thank God I'm out. Do you

know how these " volunteers " are doing? Just curious at how these few new

ones are doing with the other vaccines soldier's have to get. And sorry,

must be having a duh moment, what's USAMMDA, WRAIR and WRAMC?

Just an FYI to everyone....the Adenovirus is now being used by the

Department of Defense, specifically the USAMMDA, as a " vector " for

vaccinating. Bottom line is that the virus is being genetically altered

and genes from another virus are being inserted, so the " vaccine " then will

be against both the original Adenovirus and the added virus. The types

they have done successfully so far include the Korean Hemmorragic fever

virus, Hepatitis B, and these are being tested on " volunteers " ......also

known as the kids down in Thialand that WRAMC and WRAIR use on a daily basis

for this kind of thing, as well as our soldiers here. There are other

types of genetically modified vaccines, using of all things, Vaccinia, also

known as Smallpox. The folks at the USAMMDA have done this with Venezuelan

Equine Encephalitis, Rift valley fever, and a host of others. Thought you

might want to know.......

Jim Brown

Re: adenovirus vaccine as the cause of death

I believe if you read carefully, the cause of death is the adenovirus, not

the vaccine, according to the article, the vaccine could have prevented the

death. The addition of the word " vaccine " after " adenovirus " certainly

changed the whole meaning of this article.

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In a message dated 4/3/01 9:42:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

bodyforlife writes:

<< You know that after 3 sets, you start to

break down muscle. If you can do more than 3 sets, you need to add weight

not sets. " This is in the middle of a highpoint set. >>

I think the 3 set mentality came about because gyms want to keep people

moving on the equipment. When I was in college the trendy gym there was

signing up students like mice for a lab experiment and the instructors taught

this assembly line technique of one set of 12 reps per body part. They had

about 6 rows of all the various machines in order of how to do the exercises

so you lined up at one end, went through the exercises, and were out and done

line in 40 minutes.

If they could have built it as a drive through, they would have. Just ignore

them and if a staff member questions you again, tell her you are following

the BFL program as the book lays it out and that's that. If she gives you a

hard time, complain. Its your money. Let your results show for themselves.

Good luck!

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How could we not all be sick? Look at the air,water,soil ect.Also all of the

preservatives in food, chemicals pesticides on fruit and the hormones fed to

animals.! NO wonder!!! It really makes one sick doesn't it.I can't solve all

of the world's issues but we recycle, buy or produce from an organic grower,

buy eggs from range hens.I can't find milk that doesn't have " crap " in it but

at least some is better then nothing.I also am a vegetarian and don't eat any

meat!! Yuck!! I feel that I am somewhat healthier then someone who eats all

of this other stuff. really eats only meat in moderation.He still eats

chicken and bologna but I buy the all beef which has less preservatives.It is

something that all these children and people are sick!!!! I really do believe

that the environment does play a part!! Sorry to get on my soap box.Besides

fighting for my apraxic son I fight also for the environment and animal

rights issues.What can I say? Me and my type A personality.!!! Gretchen

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> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:14:59 +0000

Just thought I'd pass along that not all HMO's require referrals anymore.

Mine doesn't. The industry is finding out tht referral requirements create a

public backlash against insurance companies. Also, there are some PPO's that

do require referrals. So, read the fine print in your policy or call the

company to find out if referrals are really required.

McNamara

N24 10/99, 3G 5/2/02

> From: DJ Wooldridge <djwool@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: If only if every doc...........

>

> Yes if you get a PPO instead of an HMO you don't need the

> referrals. As deductibles are based on the calandar year it would

> be best to be implanted early in jan or feb then all your other

> medical expences fpr the year are cheaper as you satisfied the

> yearly deductable On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 7:08am, Armstrong wrote:

> > I was able to get my own appt with no referral, probably because I

> > don't have to go with an in plan dr. I'm really happy I didn't have

> > the hassle of that though and that I was able to choose where I

> > wanted to be implanted.

> > As for my GP.. He knew about cochlear implants, but I don't think he

> > knew how well they could potentially perform until I visited him

> > after my activation. He could not believe the difference in my

> > hearing.(From 5% discrimination to 95% discrimination) He kept

> > shaking his head and saying... " That's amazing "

> > Now he is " a little more educated " and he also has referred several

> > of his deaf patients to me. So you see.. One person CAN make a

> > difference!

> > Have a great day.

> > Hugs,

> > Silly

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Hmmm(clearing throat)......

Sometimes people do not know about things unless they read about it in the

newspaper. Or when they hear about it on the radio, or the TV. I think you get

more information thru the TV and papers. I have heard about CI's many years ago

but didn't go for it until recently due to the advancing technology.

If it was not for that Miami Herald article in late 2002 on Whitestone

and her CI, I probably would not have gone for a CI for a couple of years.

was satisified with her life until she realized she could not hear her

children in the back yard. I thought, what the heck, let's see if there's a CI

center around here.

Lo and behold, the top surgeon in the world, right here in Miami! I didn't have

a referral, and scheduled an appt. I called my mom to come down to Florida to go

with me so she can experience the CI journey with me. Then we both went and

found I was a candidate right off the bat.

A lot of people don't read the papers when they listen to the radio in INMO.

IB/

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My doctor has finally found someone in my area to

perform AVS procedure. It is to be done at Good

Samaritan Hospital in Los Gatos, Calif. I have

not yet met with the doctor who is to peform the

procedure. What are the pertinent questions I

should ask him regarding the procedures he will

follow for the AVS, Are there specific questions

I should get answered to ensure he is up to date

and knowledable on the most current procedures?

--- hyperaldosteronism wrote:

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In a message dated 12/3/05 5:55:13 PM, garypatton@... writes:

The first time was easy, the second time some contrast leaked out in

the right adrenal and it was quite painful for a day.

Rarely this will knock out the tumor and cure you.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS (Chem/Math), MS (Biochem), MD, FACP, FACC, FAHS

Clinical Professor of Medicine and Epidemiology

Director, Hypertension Diagnosis and Treatment Center

Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension

Published over 220 scientific papers, book chapters and 220 abstracts in the area of high blood pressure epidemiology, physiology, endocrinology measurement, treatment and how to detect curable causes.

Listed in Best Doctors in America

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the History and Physiology of High Blood pressure in the African Diaspora

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In a message dated 12/3/05 5:55:13 PM, garypatton@... writes:

What are the pertinent questions I

> should ask him regarding the procedures he will

> follow for the AVS,  Are there specific questions

> I should get answered to ensure he is up to date

> and knowledable on the most current procedures?

>

How many has he done?

How many times has he gotten blood from both sides?

Has he read the new article I fowarded from Austrailia on a good way to locate the right adrenal vein using CT or MRI I dont recall which?

Be sure they do it under ACTH stiumulation and measure both cortisol and aldo.

You might want to take him my article on the evolution of PA.

I assume someone has asked if you eat licorice every day.

What were your renin and aldo numbers?

What drugs were you on?

Best to stop all drugs for at least one month before the study, but depends on your BP.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS (Chem/Math), MS (Biochem), MD, FACP, FACC, FAHS

Clinical Professor of Medicine and Epidemiology

Director, Hypertension Diagnosis and Treatment Center

Board Certified in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics and Hypertension

Published over 220 scientific papers, book chapters and 220 abstracts in the area of high blood pressure epidemiology, physiology, endocrinology measurement, treatment and how to detect curable causes.

Listed in Best Doctors in America

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the History and Physiology of High Blood pressure in the African Diaspora

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, I live in Santa Clara and go to Los Gatos good samaritan hospital and most of my doctors are there. Who are you seeing there? Ask your doctor to find out from the interventional radiologist the following very important questions: 1. How many of these procedure he/she has ever done? if so when was the last time they did one. 2. Are they going to give you ACTH before doing the procedure? 3. How many other PA patients has your doctor treated prior to diagnosing and treating you? How long ago? If they give you straight forward answers to the above questions, then please let me know. I would really be interested. I am yet to find a doctor here who has treated more than one(thats me) patient here. If you dont get a straight answer for any of the above, dont bother doing the procedure here it would be a waste of your time, money and big

risk of your health as this procedure is invasive and dangerous. You dont want to offer your health so someone else's resume looks good. FYI, when I went to Good Samaritan's ER with high BP, they not only didn't even check to see if I had PA and administered meds that caused two other hospitalization and possibly risking my , bedbound for months and I just dont want to see that happen to one more patient. Please lets keep in touch. Best wishes, Farah Bruce & Shirley Coffman <mancoff@...> wrote: My doctor has finally found someone in my area toperform AVS procedure. It is to be done at GoodSamaritan Hospital in Los Gatos,

Calif. I havenot yet met with the doctor who is to peform theprocedure. What are the pertinent questions Ishould ask him regarding the procedures he willfollow for the AVS, Are there specific questionsI should get answered to ensure he is up to dateand knowledable on the most current procedures? --- hyperaldosteronism wrote:>

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I have had the AVS proceedure done twice now. About a 12 drive north

of you at OHSU in Portland Ore. I think they said they've done around

300 there. I believe it is also done in Seattle.

Another 3 or 4 hours North.

I show a small lesion on the left side on the CAT scan but the AVS

clearly showed the right side to be the problem. My endo ordered a

second AVS to rule out any human error. Again clearly the right side.

The first time was easy, the second time some contrast leaked out in

the right adrenal and it was quite painful for a day.

>

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