Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Please be careful as many educators are on these mailing lists. I am afraid this will get back to the district. On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:32 PM, E. , Sr. wrote: > Lizzie, > I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'm > working on in FL. they are basically just using restraint after > Maladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I do > agree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY program > that has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What were > they doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in this > case I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of the > Administrations not just in FL. but all over will use extreme > intimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is even > worse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung up > on me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was via > teleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after the > local advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the date > of the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday > !!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so the > Behavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and the > school psychologist could meet with the child several more times and > complete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal I > should say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconference > appt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was over > he coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10 > days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with a > statement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours from > now - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requests > to change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with the > child. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so she > won't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, their > attempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the next > mother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' in > your state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the most > unprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regards > to IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. > E. , Sr. > Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the same > http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accept_and_sign_the_autism_reform_act_of_2009 > E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for Autistic > Children > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 , let's see. First, is this a kid in elementary or middle? A center or gen ed school setting? Second, the school is physically restraining him for behaviors? Who is in charge of his behavior plan? Have you talked to that person? What is the name of the restrain program used? Typically a student can't be restrained unless his behavior plan states that he can. This is very important. What does his behavior plan call for as far as reinforcemnt? What has the school does to try to reduce his behaviors? The STAR program involves teaching very, very basic skills and will have little affect on serious behaviors. Does he have similar behaviors at home, and if so, what do they do at home when that happens? Is he in aftercare, and if so, what happens there? What county is this, or what city? What do you mean when you say "intimidating" mom? What is this conflict about? What does mom want that seems to be so impossible (besides from a program that helps the kid's behaviors). What does the school want? Why did they hang up on you? Were you angry, or did you raise your voice. If so, reconsider you approach. Are you professional? You need to be effective here, otherwise you won't be able to help the kid (you know that). The 10 day notice doesn't mean anything. Nobody can "force" mom to sign it, so she must have done that because she agreed to meet before the 10 days were up. This is a waiver that is legally OK, she signed it and so what. Legally the school can argue that they take case so seriously that they do not want to waist time, thereby having a meeting soon. They look good that way. Don't get caught up in details like that. Stick to the real issues, and tell me what they are. You are not sure if the principal is a MAN you say, are you indicating that he is gay? If so, then yes, it is quite possible as many principals here are gay, and many are very successful and popular. Why is mom being "set up", and what does that mean? , everything is possible in this state. Let's try to make a difference. Lizzie To: sList Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:32:42 PMSubject: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to Lizzie,I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'mworking on in FL. they are basically just using restraint afterMaladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I doagree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY programthat has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What werethey doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in thiscase I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of theAdministrations not just in FL. but all over will use extremeintimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is evenworse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung upon me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was viateleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after thelocal advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the dateof the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday!!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so theBehavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and theschool psychologist could meet with the child several more times andcomplete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal Ishould say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconferenceappt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was overhe coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with astatement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours fromnow - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requeststo change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with thechild. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so shewon't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, theirattempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the nextmother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' inyour state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the mostunprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regardsto IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. E. , Sr.Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the samehttp://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_ reform_act_ of_2009 E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for AutisticChildren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Thanks Lizzie! I might add that if that was a gay bashing comment (made by ), there is absolutely no place for that on an autism group, and it is extremely hateful and inappropriate. Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to Lizzie,I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'mworking on in FL. they are basically just using restraint afterMaladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I doagree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY programthat has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What werethey doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in thiscase I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of theAdministrations not just in FL. but all over will use extremeintimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is evenworse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung upon me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was viateleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after thelocal advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the dateof the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday!!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so theBehavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and theschool psychologist could meet with the child several more times andcomplete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal Ishould say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconferenceappt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was overhe coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with astatement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours fromnow - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requeststo change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with thechild. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so shewon't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, theirattempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the nextmother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' inyour state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the mostunprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regardsto IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. E. , Sr.Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the samehttp://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_ reform_act_ of_2009 E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for AutisticChildren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I’m not sure if I missed something…but I didn’t interpret ’s response regarding the principal as a gay bashing comment. I understood it to be that he was referring to his actions as stated in the e-mail. The messages that I have read from have only suggested to me that he is a caring and educated man who is giving extremely good advice for free! From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of E. , Sr. Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:33 PM To: sList Subject: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to Lizzie, I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'm working on in FL. they are basically just using restraint after Maladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I do agree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY program that has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What were they doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in this case I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of the Administrations not just in FL. but all over will use extreme intimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is even worse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung up on me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was via teleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after the local advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the date of the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday !!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so the Behavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and the school psychologist could meet with the child several more times and complete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal I should say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconference appt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was over he coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10 days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with a statement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours from now - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requests to change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with the child. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so she won't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, their attempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the next mother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' in your state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the most unprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regards to IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. E. , Sr. Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the same http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accept_and_sign_the_autism_reform_act_of_2009 E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 , Nice to meet you. I was typing so fast I think I slipped and spoke about an IEP in Calif. - very intense but not in your state. Are you in Florida ? By the way I do believe educators are paid by the states we pay tax to and also by districts funded partially by the fed's which we also pay taxes to. Not to mention all the parents with homes that pay property taxes that are almost always used for school districts. So in essence we all have to realize who we work for and it isn't always the people that sign our checks. I hope all is well in your state. > > Lizzie, > > I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'm > > working on in FL. they are basically just using restraint after > > Maladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I do > > agree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY program > > that has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What were > > they doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in this > > case I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of the > > Administrations not just in FL. but all over will use extreme > > intimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is even > > worse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung up > > on me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was via > > teleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after the > > local advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the date > > of the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday > > !!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so the > > Behavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and the > > school psychologist could meet with the child several more times and > > complete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal I > > should say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconference > > appt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was over > > he coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10 > > days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with a > > statement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours from > > now - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requests > > to change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with the > > child. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so she > > won't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, their > > attempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the next > > mother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' in > > your state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the most > > unprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regards > > to IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. > > E. , Sr. > > Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the same > > http://www.change.org/ideas/view/accept_and_sign_the_autism_reform_act_of_2009 > > E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for Autistic > > Children > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Lizzie, Can you bring this discussion to my personal email at Peace4kids@.... I don't want to 'upset' anyone that isn't in compliance and may be reading this with plans to take out their anger on the child... that's the last thing I want to see happen in any case. And all to much the child will suffer the consequences of Parents looking to help their children by not letting the system run their lives. We have to watch for this as retaliation is one thing we MUST keep in check. I do think that many educators care intensely..I just think that some are using tactics that they use on their kids that don't pick up their toys..and parents don't deserve that. > > , > let's see. First, is this a kid in elementary or middle? A center or gen ed school setting? > Second, the school is physically restraining him for behaviors? Who is in charge of his behavior plan? Have you talked to that person? What is the name of the restrain program used? Typically a student can't be restrained unless his behavior plan states that he can.. This is very important. What does his behavior plan call for as far as reinforcemnt? What has the school does to try to reduce his behaviors? The STAR program involves teaching very, very basic skills and will have little affect on serious behaviors. Does he have similar behaviors at home, and if so, what do they do at home when that happens? Is he in aftercare, and if so, what happens there? > What county is this, or what city? > What do you mean when you say " intimidating " mom? What is this conflict about? What does mom want that seems to be so impossible (besides from a program that helps the kid's behaviors). What does the school want? > Why did they hang up on you? Were you angry, or did you raise your voice. If so, reconsider you approach. Are you professional? You need to be effective here, otherwise you won't be able to help the kid (you know that). > The 10 day notice doesn't mean anything. Nobody can " force " mom to sign it, so she must have done that because she agreed to meet before the 10 days were up. This is a waiver that is legally OK, she signed it and so what. Legally the school can argue that they take case so seriously that they do not want to waist time, thereby having a meeting soon. They look good that way. Don't get caught up in details like that. Stick to the real issues, and tell me what they are. > You are not sure if the principal is a MAN you say, are you indicating that he is gay? If so, then yes, it is quite possible as many principals here are gay, and many are very successful and popular. > Why is mom being " set up " , and what does that mean? > , everything is possible in this state. Let's try to make a difference. > > Lizzie > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: sList > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:32:42 PM > Subject: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to > > > Lizzie, > I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'm > working on in FL. they are basically just using restraint after > Maladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I do > agree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY program > that has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What were > they doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in this > case I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of the > Administrations not just in FL. but all over will use extreme > intimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is even > worse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung up > on me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was via > teleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after the > local advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the date > of the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday > !!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so the > Behavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and the > school psychologist could meet with the child several more times and > complete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal I > should say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconference > appt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was over > he coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10 > days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with a > statement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours from > now - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requests > to change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with the > child. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so she > won't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, their > attempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the next > mother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' in > your state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the most > unprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regards > to IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. > E. , Sr. > Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the same > http://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_ reform_act_ of_2009 > E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for Autistic > Children > > __._,_..___ > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar > MARKETPLACE > > ________________________________ > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > * 5 > New MembersVisit Your Group > Yahoo! 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Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Tina, I was in no way suggesting this individual is not male nor did I make any reference to sexual preference, that is not in my pattern of thinking at all. It was more of a statement that would fall under 'candor' ... which occurs when an individual in an Administration makes an agreement, schedules it not only verbally but as well in an appointment book while an IEP team waits, then changes his agreement he made with another man behind his back after ending the meeting and the other man leaves or is not present. When I state Man.. I am referring to 'mankind'. I don't either person of either gender should act in that manner. I do apologize if that came across to you wrong or insinuated something that wasn't stated. Please read what I stated again. Men make agreements, men stick to those agreements. When this individual failed to do so and did something that was not what I would consider 'mankind' should do to each other (regardless of preference, that is not for me to judge nor is it my business). I hope that clears it up. > > Thanks Lizzie! > > I might add that if that was a gay bashing comment (made by ), there is absolutely no place for that on an autism group, and it is extremely hateful and inappropriate. > > > Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to > > > Lizzie, > I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'm > working on in FL. they are basically just using restraint after > Maladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I do > agree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY program > that has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What were > they doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in this > case I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of the > Administrations not just in FL. but all over will use extreme > intimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is even > worse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung up > on me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was via > teleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after the > local advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the date > of the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday > !!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so the > Behavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and the > school psychologist could meet with the child several more times and > complete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal I > should say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconference > appt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was over > he coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10 > days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with a > statement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours from > now - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requests > to change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with the > child. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so she > won't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, their > attempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the next > mother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' in > your state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the most > unprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regards > to IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. > E. , Sr. > Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the same > http://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_ reform_act_ of_2009 > E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for Autistic > Children > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Patti, let's not go there. I too think that is a "caring and educated person". He also seems compassionate and dedicated to our cause. No wonder I find him so interesting:) Liz To: sList Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:55:40 PMSubject: RE: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to I’m not sure if I missed something…but I didn’t interpret ’s response regarding the principal as a gay bashing comment. I understood it to be that he was referring to his actions as stated in the e-mail. The messages that I have read from have only suggested to me that he is a caring and educated man who is giving extremely good advice for free! From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: sList@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of E. , Sr.Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:33 PMTo: sList@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to Lizzie,I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'mworking on in FL. they are basically just using restraint afterMaladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I doagree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY programthat has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What werethey doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in thiscase I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of theAdministrations not just in FL. but all over will use extremeintimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is evenworse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung upon me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was viateleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after thelocal advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the dateof the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday!!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so theBehavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and theschool psychologist could meet with the child several more times andcomplete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal Ishould say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconferenceappt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was overhe coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with astatement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours fromnow - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requeststo change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with thechild. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so shewon't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, theirattempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the nextmother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' inyour state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the mostunprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regardsto IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. E. , Sr.Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the samehttp://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_ reform_act_ of_2009 E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for AutisticChildren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Liz, I don’t understand your response “let’s not go there.” Patti From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Lizzie Berg Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:00 PM To: sList Subject: Re: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to Patti, let's not go there. I too think that is a " caring and educated person " . He also seems compassionate and dedicated to our cause. No wonder I find him so interesting:) Liz From: Patti O'Meara <pattio1optonline (DOT) net> To: sList Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:55:40 PM Subject: RE: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to I’m not sure if I missed something…but I didn’t interpret ’s response regarding the principal as a gay bashing comment. I understood it to be that he was referring to his actions as stated in the e-mail. The messages that I have read from have only suggested to me that he is a caring and educated man who is giving extremely good advice for free! From: sList@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: sList@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of E. , Sr. Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:33 PM To: sList@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Lizzie.. I should have posted this seperatly from my response to Lizzie, I am curious to know what they are using there, as in the case I'm working on in FL. they are basically just using restraint after Maladaptive behaviors show up.. and no real program at all. I do agree with you especially after reviewing this case that ANY program that has at least some 'cudo's' is better then nothing. What were they doing ? The same CPI restraint program I'm dealing with in this case I'm working on... I find it atrocious that some of the Administrations not just in FL. but all over will use extreme intimidation against parents. Targeting single mothers is even worse..this case was a 4.5 hour 'half' IEP... then they rudely hung up on me (there was a local somewhat silent advocate and I was via teleconference and I'm not at all silent !). In this case after the local advocate left and after they hung up on me they changed the date of the completion of the IEP to Monday..and I just did this friday !!!! It was scheduled to be completed on the 23rd of Jan so the Behavorist that just did the FBA could make some changes and the school psychologist could meet with the child several more times and complete her report. As well the Man*cough*, or the Principal I should say because I'm not sure if he is a MAN, made a teleconference appt. with me on this coming Wed. . Then after the meeting was over he coerced the mother into signing a statement waiving her right to 10 days notice (I don't believe a principal can change fed law with a statement), and to hold the meeting on Mon.. in about 40 hours from now - overriding the Behavorists and the Dist. Psychologists requests to change things in Assesments and to have more time to be with the child. This kind of activity must stop. The mother is 'sick' so she won't be there Monday..but I WILL..by teleconference. So, their attempt to block out Advocacy failed this time. What about the next mother that doesn't realize she's being set up ? Is this 'normal' in your state Lizzie ? I must say that it was one of the most unprofessional things I have ever seen an Administrator do in regards to IEP's - I've seen them do much worse 'in action' all over the nation. E. , Sr. Please go and comment to vote & Let others know ASAP to do the same http://www.change. org/ideas/ view/accept_ and_sign_ the_autism_ reform_act_ of_2009 E. , Sr. Founder The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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