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Now Bruce,

This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico training but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of Doctors on this Board.

For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't have the time & most likely never have the inclination to read through ALL our stuff.

I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow them access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used I would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could happen I've got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one at that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that it WAS a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are being 'scilly' when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

in Oz

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I tell you what, the idea of docs being allowed to join in is actually quite scary. How many of us do things that have been recommended by someone in our air family, because they know it works through experience, rather than blindly following doctors orders. Imagine the amount of lectures we'd get from the medical proffession!

Love Ze x>> > Now Bruce,> > This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea> had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico training> but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of Doctors> on this Board.> > For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE> aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't have the> time & most likely never have the inclination to read through ALL our> stuff.> > I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were> interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow them> access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....> > I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our> Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used I> would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could happen I've> got no suggestions at this stage!!!!> > Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one at> that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that it WAS> a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are being 'scilly'> when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!> > in Oz>

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My personal opinion, is before dr's graduate from medical school or are ready to practise on real patients, is the following:

The medical board should admit the new dr's for a month in hospital, give them a fake disease, with no privileges. Us, as patients don't receive special privileges when we're sick. While in hospital have them do all medical tests necessary of the fake disease they were given.

With the dr's that already practising...treating their patients like BS, they should be locked up, treat them the same way they treat their patients with no respect/or dignity.

In Life we have Learned treat people the way, you would like to be treated!

After a month, have them do a survey of what they thought of the experience/or do an interview....This interview would be kind of different from getting the job. Your medical licences, would be revoked if you don't pass. (there would be no excuses well, oh, I'm sorry, d'uh I didn't know better etc....

Some might change their attitudes etc....in treating patients better and some well nothing would have changed at all....in those who decide well I'm going to continue to treat patients like BS...medical licenses should be revoked.

If a dr receives a warning whether it's the first, second or third....or is brought in front of the medical board, licenses should be revoked on the spot. Send them to Bedside Manner School! They should learn they're treating people/humans and not penguins, cats or dogs etc....

How many times do we hear on tv, news, from people, documentaries done etc...because rumours/news travel so fast....this dr sexually assaulted the patient, wrong medication was prescribed, dr was under the influence when peformed the procedure, wrong leg was operated on...and what did the dr have to say Ooops, I didn't correctly read the chart....Dr's should be held accountable for their actions!

Irene

Raynaud's Disease 09/07

PF 03/07 Canada

---- Original Message ----

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 5:08 am

Subject: Re: Visiting Medicos

I tell you what, the idea of docs being allowed to join in is actually quite scary. How many of us do things that have been recommended by someone in our air family, because they know it works through experience, rather than blindly following doctors orders. Imagine the amount of lectures we'd get from the medical proffession!

Love Ze x

>

>

> Now Bruce,

>

> This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico training

> but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of Doctors

> on this Board.

>

> For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't have the

> time & most likely never have the inclination to read through ALL our

> stuff.

>

> I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were

> interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow them

> access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

>

> I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used I

> would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could happen I've

> got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

>

> Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one at

> that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that it WAS

> a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are being 'scilly'

> when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

>

> in Oz

>

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Irene, What a great idea!!! They practice

their medical procedures during their internships

but they don't learn what patients go through from the patient's point

of view!!!

Maybe this could be included in a sensitivity training class!

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild”

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to

Darah

“I’m gonna

be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Irn3189@... wrote:

My personal opinion, is before dr's

graduate from medical school or are ready to practise on real patients,

is the following:

The medical board should admit the new dr's for a month in hospital,

give them a fake disease, with no privileges. Us, as patients don't

receive special privileges when we're sick. While in hospital have them

do all medical tests necessary of the fake disease they were given.

With the dr's that already practising...treating their patients

like BS, they should be locked up, treat them the same way they treat

their patients with no respect/or dignity.

In Life we have Learned treat people the way, you would like to be

treated!

After a month, have them do a survey of what they thought of the

experience/or do an interview....This interview would be kind of

different from getting the job. Your medical licences, would be revoked

if you don't pass. (there would be no excuses well, oh, I'm sorry, d'uh

I didn't know better etc....

Some might change their attitudes etc....in treating patients better

and some well nothing would have changed at all....in those who decide

well I'm going to continue to treat patients like BS...medical licenses

should be revoked.

If a dr receives a warning whether it's the first, second or

third....or is brought in front of the medical board, licenses should

be revoked on the spot. Send them to Bedside Manner School! They

should learn they're treating people/humans and not penguins, cats or

dogs etc....

How many times do we hear on tv, news, from people, documentaries done

etc...because rumours/news travel so fast....this dr sexually assaulted

the patient, wrong medication was prescribed, dr was under the

influence when peformed the procedure, wrong leg was operated on...and

what did the dr have to say Ooops, I didn't correctly read the

chart....Dr's should be held accountable for their actions!

Irene

Raynaud's Disease 09/07

PF 03/07 Canada

---- Original Message ----

From: Zena <zeasmanbtinternet>

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 5:08 am

Subject: Re: Visiting Medicos

I tell you what, the

idea of docs being allowed to join in is actually quite scary. How

many of us do things that have been recommended by someone in our air

family, because they know it works through experience, rather than

blindly following doctors orders. Imagine the amount of lectures we'd

get from the medical proffession!

Love Ze x

>

>

> Now Bruce,

>

> This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico

training

> but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of

Doctors

> on this Board.

>

> For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't

have the

> time & most likely never have the inclination to read through

ALL our

> stuff.

>

> I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were

> interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow them

> access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

>

> I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used I

> would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could

happen I've

> got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

>

> Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one

at

> that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that

it WAS

> a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are being

'scilly'

> when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

>

> in Oz

>

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What i'd like to see is Irene be one of their treating physicians as

they learn it from a patient's view.....lol

> > >

> > >

> > > Now Bruce,

> > >

> > > This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> > > had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico

training

> > > but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of

Doctors

> > > on this Board.

> > >

> > > For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> > > aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't

have the

> > > time & most likely never have the inclination to read through

ALL our

> > > stuff.

> > >

> > > I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were

> > > interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow

them

> > > access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

> > >

> > > I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> > > Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be

used I

> > > would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could

happen I've

> > > got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

> > >

> > > Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one at

> > > that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it

that it WAS

> > > a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are

being 'scilly'

> > > when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > in Oz

> > >

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of course they're going to experience as a patient's point view, because they will be admitted on the hospital ward, and they will face, all the dilemmas, stress we as patients go through and all the procedures we have to endure....they will face them too, if they refuse, then they have to choose another career. Irene

---- Original Message ----

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:41 pm

Subject: Re: Re: Visiting Medicos

Irene, What a great idea!!! They practice their medical procedures during their internships

but they don't learn what patients go through from the patient's point of view!!!

Maybe this could be included in a sensitivity training class!

Z fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Irn3189aim wrote:

My personal opinion, is before dr's graduate from medical school or are ready to practise on real patients, is the following:

The medical board should admit the new dr's for a month in hospital, give them a fake disease, with no privileges. Us, as patients don't receive special privileges when we're sick. While in hospital have them do all medical tests necessary of the fake disease they were given.

With the dr's that already practising...treating their patients like BS, they should be locked up, treat them the same way they treat their patients with no respect/or dignity.

In Life we have Learned treat people the way, you would like to be treated!

After a month, have them do a survey of what they thought of the experience/or do an interview....This interview would be kind of different from getting the job. Your medical licences, would be revoked if you don't pass. (there would be no excuses well, oh, I'm sorry, d'uh I didn't know better etc....

Some might change their attitudes etc....in treating patients better and some well nothing would have changed at all....in those who decide well I'm going to continue to treat patients like BS...medical licenses should be revoked.

If a dr receives a warning whether it's the first, second or third....or is brought in front of the medical board, licenses should be revoked on the spot. Send them to Bedside Manner School! They should learn they're treating people/humans and not penguins, cats or dogs etc....

How many times do we hear on tv, news, from people, documentaries done etc...because rumours/news travel so fast....this dr sexually assaulted the patient, wrong medication was prescribed, dr was under the influence when peformed the procedure, wrong leg was operated on...and what did the dr have to say Ooops, I didn't correctly read the chart....Dr's should be held accountable for their actions!

Irene

Raynaud's Disease 09/07

PF 03/07 Canada

---- Original Message ----

From: Zena <zeasmanbtinternet>

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 5:08 am

Subject: Re: Visiting Medicos

I tell you what, the idea of docs being allowed to join in is actually quite scary. How many of us do things that have been recommended by someone in our air family, because they know it works through experience, rather than blindly following doctors orders. Imagine the amount of lectures we'd get from the medical proffession!

Love Ze x

>

>

> Now Bruce,

>

> This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico training

> but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of Doctors

> on this Board.

>

> For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't have the

> time & most likely never have the inclination to read through ALL our

> stuff.

>

> I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were

> interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow them

> access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

>

> I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used I

> would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could happen I've

> got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

>

> Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one at

> that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that it WAS

> a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are being 'scilly'

> when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

>

> in Oz

>

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Oh and if I could just have one shot at the ABG tech who missed 8

times and said I was too tense....lol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now Bruce,

> > > >

> > > > This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> > > > had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence

Medico

> training

> > > > but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications

of

> Doctors

> > > > on this Board.

> > > >

> > > > For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> > > > aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they

wouldn't

> have the

> > > > time & most likely never have the inclination to read through

> ALL our

> > > > stuff.

> > > >

> > > > I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico

were

> > > > interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to

allow

> them

> > > > access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

> > > >

> > > > I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> > > > Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be

> used I

> > > > would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could

> happen I've

> > > > got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one

at

> > > > that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it

> that it WAS

> > > > a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are

> being 'scilly'

> > > > when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > in Oz

> > > >

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don't worry you'll have the chance at the ABG tech...and whom ever else you want to take a shot at! lol!

---- Original Message ----

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:51 pm

Subject: Re: Visiting Medicos

Oh and if I could just have one shot at the ABG tech who missed 8

times and said I was too tense....lol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Now Bruce,

> > > >

> > > > This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> > > > had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence

Medico

> training

> > > > but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications

of

> Doctors

> > > > on this Board.

> > > >

> > > > For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> > > > aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they

wouldn't

> have the

> > > > time & most likely never have the inclination to read through

> ALL our

> > > > stuff.

> > > >

> > > > I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico

were

> > > > interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to

allow

> them

> > > > access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

> > > >

> > > > I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> > > > Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be

> used I

> > > > would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could

> happen I've

> > > > got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one

at

> > > > that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it

> that it WAS

> > > > a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are

> being 'scilly'

> > > > when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > in Oz

> > > >

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Irene, I love the idea...now how do we

make it happen!!!!

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mildâ€

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to

Darah      

“I’m gonna

be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â  Bob Marley

Irn3189@... wrote:

,

of course they're going to experience as a patient's point view,

because they will be admitted on the hospital ward, and they will face,

all the dilemmas, stress we as patients go through and all the

procedures we have to endure....they will face them too, if they

refuse, then they have to choose another career. Irene

---- Original Message ----

From: linda zion <ljz741comcast (DOT) net>

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:41 pm

Subject: Re: Re: Visiting Medicos

Irene,  What a great idea!!! They

practice their medical procedures during their internships

 but they don't learn what patients go through from the patient's point

of view!!!

Maybe this could be included in  a sensitivity training class!

Z

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mildâ€

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah      

“I’m gonna be

iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â  Bob Marley

Irn3189aim

wrote:

My personal opinion, is before

dr's graduate from medical school or are ready to practise on real

patients, is the following:

The medical board should admit the new dr's for a month in hospital,

give them a fake disease, with no privileges. Us, as patients don't

receive special privileges when we're sick. While in hospital have them

do all medical tests necessary of the fake disease they were given.

With the dr's that already practising...treating their patients

like BS, they should be locked up, treat them the same way they treat

their patients with no respect/or dignity.

In Life we have Learned treat people the way, you would like to be

treated!

After a month, have them do a survey of what they thought of the

experience/or do an interview....This interview would be kind of

different from getting the job. Your medical licences, would be revoked

if you don't pass. (there would be no excuses well, oh, I'm sorry, d'uh

I didn't know better etc....

Some might change their attitudes etc....in treating patients better

and some well nothing would have changed at all....in those who decide

well I'm going to continue to treat patients like BS...medical licenses

should be revoked.

If a dr receives a warning whether it's the first, second or

third....or is brought in front of the medical board, licenses should

be revoked on the spot.  Send them to Bedside Manner School! They

should learn they're treating people/humans and not penguins, cats or

dogs etc....

How many times do we hear on tv, news, from people, documentaries done

etc...because rumours/news travel so fast....this dr sexually assaulted

the patient, wrong medication was prescribed, dr was under the

influence when peformed the procedure, wrong leg was operated on...and

what did the dr have to say Ooops, I didn't correctly read the

chart....Dr's should be held accountable for their actions!

Irene

Raynaud's Disease 09/07

PF 03/07 Canada

---- Original Message ----

From: Zena <zeasmanbtinternet>

To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 5:08 am

Subject: Re: Visiting Medicos

I tell you what,

the idea of docs being allowed to join in is actually quite scary.  How

many of us do things that have been recommended by someone in our air

family, because they know it works through experience, rather than

blindly following doctors orders.  Imagine the amount of lectures we'd

get from the medical proffession! 

Love Ze x

>

>

> Now Bruce,

>

> This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico

training

> but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of

Doctors

> on this Board.

>

> For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't

have the

> time & most likely never have the inclination to read through

ALL our

> stuff.

>

> I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were

> interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow them

> access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

>

> I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used I

> would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could

happen I've

> got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

>

> Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one

at

> that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that

it WAS

> a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are being

'scilly'

> when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

>

> in Oz

>

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lol! lol! lol! and I need to get ready for work, I'm still in my pj's.

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To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:41 am

Subject: Re: Visiting Medicos

Wouldn't it be easier just to elect Irene President of both

countries. Then in her spare time from dealing with the doctors she

could solve a few other problems too.

> >

> >

> > Now Bruce,

> >

> > This was a perfectly GOOD discussion to get going...the idea

> > had MERIT...no I didn't think you'd be able to influence Medico

training

> > but that didn't mean we shouldn't consider the ramifications of

Doctors

> > on this Board.

> >

> > For instance it's quite likely some Doctors out there ARE

> > aware of the existence of this Board...as you say they wouldn't

have the

> > time & most likely never have the inclination to read through ALL

our

> > stuff.

> >

> > I was just trying to raise the point that even IF a Medico were

> > interested enough I don't think it would be advisable to allow

them

> > access, either as an active participant OR as a lurker....

> >

> > I agree ENTIRELY that they would learn a great deal from our

> > Board....if there's a way that some of our material could be used

I

> > would think that could be WONDERFUL! How on earth that could

happen I've

> > got no suggestions at this stage!!!!

> >

> > Your message DID sound like a serious idea Bruce & a good one at

> > that....in fact I think I can remember you SAYING within it that

it WAS

> > a serious idea.....now how on earth can I tell if you are

being 'scilly'

> > when you yourself state you're being serious !!!!!!!!!

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> Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news &

entertainment â€" with a Canadian perspective.

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> o virus found in this incoming message.

> hecked by AVG Free Edition.

> ersion: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date:

1/12/2008 2:04 PM

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> o virus found in this incoming message.

> hecked by AVG Free Edition.

> ersion: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date:

1/12/2008 2:04 PM

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> Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news &

entertainment â€" with a Canadian perspective.

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Meet the new AOL.ca. Free radio, music, videos, news & entertainment – with a Canadian perspective.

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