Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Gwynne, I too think the toxicity happens with the low leader flow. Our Ginger was Dx the same time I was and several times she would post about turning her 02 up so very high. She was so afraid of the not getting enough air part. She did wind up in the hosp. from it. But once we have gotten to a point it is not a problem but our Dr.s need to tell us when we are there. I was told I couldn't get to much and that didn't make me the happiest camper on the lake.I am so happy you have Misha. I have always HAD to have a little lap lover. Love and Prayers, Peggy ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." and Beth,I've always been told exactly same thing about02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictivelung disease. I'm not positive that applies atlower flows, but definitely it's the case once youget to my stage.Also, recently there was a post about degree offibrosis, and someone said "you've either got itor you don't." But actually your lungs will showon x-ray or CT more or less white area (wherethere's fibrosis). The worse we get (the morefibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazierour x-rays look.Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing asoxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as apercentage. Most doctors want you to stay at orabove 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. Youfind out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, thethingy you put your finger in).They can also check your level of blood oxygen andcarbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This isdeeper than a vein, where you normally have blooddrawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for arespiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have theoption. My experience has ranged from no big dealto hurts like crazy. Some people have the areadeadened with lidocaine, although I really don't gethow much that would help since you can't deadenthe artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. Itend to think it's more in the technique of the persondoing the sticking.Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm nohero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after myVATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competentand gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do thatthan a NG tube any day. Lou,Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha givesme, I say go with the pup! But you will need plentyof help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down toput Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiverdoes it. I have another girl who comes three times aday to walk her. Another friend has offered to takeher if I don't make it, which means the world to me.But if you're missing that special dimension of yourlife and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heardof a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.Hugs,Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Gwynne Unfortunately, there is no possibility of you getting too much oxygen. But, if our dreams come true then wouldn't that be something nice to actually have to worry about. I would have liked to have had lidocaine for the eight misses. lol. My tube removal was a practice and then for real a breathe deeply and then exhale with all my force and until told to stop. She didn't tell me when it was coming out, but removed it while I exhaled and it didn't hurt me at all. And, as to the dog, if I felt that I could fully take care of one, walk it when needed, good or bad weather, feed it, get it to the vet, or if I had someone to help, I'd have one in an instant. Not sure what breed. Probably something quite uncommon, knowing me. As the non-custodial parent of two beautiful cats, I love them but would not have cats at this point. First, Marli would chew holes in the tubing without question. Second, I could not handle the litter boxes nor is it good for any of us with PF to have anything to do with litter boxes. > > and Beth, > I've always been told exactly same thing about > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > get to my stage. > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > our x-rays look. > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > thingy you put your finger in). > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > how much that would help since you can't deaden > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > doing the sticking. > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > than a NG tube any day. > > Lou, > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > Hugs, > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Peggy: You've hit on the confusion. At high flow, there's just no way to get too much. However, one who is at 2 liters and barely requiring that, but turns it up as far as it can go will get too much. Thats essentially like a healthy person using it. A few minutes and no problem, but long periods of way too much is toxic. > > and Beth, > I've always been told exactly same thing about > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > get to my stage. > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > our x-rays look. > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > thingy you put your finger in). > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > how much that would help since you can't deaden > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > doing the sticking. > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > than a NG tube any day. > > Lou, > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > Hugs, > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Bruce, My little Abby is so much comfort to me she is worth any trouble I go through. I have her trained to potty on pads and for exercise she loves to fetch her toys from across the room. about ten to fifteen times and she's one happy puppy.I think you would love the company. They defiantly fill a void. Love and Prayers, Peggy ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." GwynneUnfortunately, there is no possibility of you getting too much oxygen. But, if our dreams come true then wouldn't that be something nice to actually have to worry about.I would have liked to have had lidocaine for the eight misses. lol. My tube removal was a practice and then for real a breathe deeply and then exhale with all my force and until told to stop. She didn't tell me when it was coming out, but removed it while I exhaled and it didn't hurt me at all.And, as to the dog, if I felt that I could fully take care of one, walk it when needed, good or bad weather, feed it, get it to the vet, or if I had someone to help, I'd have one in an instant. Not sure what breed. Probably something quite uncommon, knowing me. As the non-custodial parent of two beautiful cats, I love them but would not have cats at this point. First, Marli would chew holes in the tubing without question. Second, I could not handle the litter boxes nor is it good for any of us with PF to have anything to do with litter boxes. >> and Beth,> I've always been told exactly same thing about> 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> get to my stage.> Also, recently there was a post about degree of> fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> our x-rays look.> > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> thingy you put your finger in).> They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> how much that would help since you can't deaden> the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> doing the sticking.> > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> than a NG tube any day.> > Lou,> Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> But if you're missing that special dimension of your> life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > Hugs,> Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 This potty pad thing is all new to me....headed to research and learn more about that. > > > > and Beth, > > I've always been told exactly same thing about > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > > get to my stage. > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > > our x-rays look. > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > > thingy you put your finger in). > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > > how much that would help since you can't deaden > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > > doing the sticking. > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > > than a NG tube any day. > > > > Lou, > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > > > Hugs, > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 That is right. One day Ginger posted she had passed out and fell off her scooter. we were all so worried about her. There will never be another like her. She was the ultimate Texan. Love and Prayers, Peggy ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." Peggy:You've hit on the confusion. At high flow, there's just no way to get too much. However, one who is at 2 liters and barely requiring that, but turns it up as far as it can go will get too much. Thats essentially like a healthy person using it. A few minutes and no problem, but long periods of way too much is toxic. > > and Beth,> I've always been told exactly same thing about> 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> get to my stage.> Also, recently there was a post about degree of> fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> our x-rays look.> > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> thingy you put your finger in).> They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> how much that would help since you can't deaden> the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> doing the sticking.> > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> than a NG tube any day.> > Lou,> Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> But if you're missing that special dimension of your> life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > Hugs,> Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Omg, they even have The Heavy Doody Series. lol > > > > > > and Beth, > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > > > get to my stage. > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > > > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > > > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > > > our x-rays look. > > > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > > > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > > > thingy you put your finger in). > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > > > doing the sticking. > > > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > > > than a NG tube any day. > > > > > > Lou, > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > > > > > Hugs, > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 LOL. they are just pads used in nursing homes for beds and wheelchairs..lol about 17 X 24. I get 300 for 45 or 50 dollars.just throw it away once a day, unless she is VERY active. and we are all happy. don't have to go outside with her. We do have some Hawks and at night Owls that come looking for her. she is about the size of a squirrel. Love and Prayers, Peggy ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." This potty pad thing is all new to me....headed to research and learn more about that.> >> > and Beth,> > I've always been told exactly same thing about> > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> > get to my stage.> > Also, recently there was a post about degree of> > fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> > or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> > our x-rays look.> >> > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> > oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> > thingy you put your finger in).> > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> > how much that would help since you can't deaden> > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> > doing the sticking.> >> > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> > than a NG tube any day.> >> > Lou,> > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> > But if you're missing that special dimension of your> > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> >> > Hugs,> > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Where did you find heavy duty ones ?? LOL she pees about two table spoon. no need for the heavy duty ones. lol Love and Prayers, Peggy ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." Omg, they even have The Heavy Doody Series. lol> > >> > > and Beth,> > > I've always been told exactly same thing about> > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> > > get to my stage.> > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of> > > fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> > > or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> > > our x-rays look.> > >> > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> > > oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> > > thingy you put your finger in).> > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> > > how much that would help since you can't deaden> > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> > > doing the sticking.> > >> > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> > > than a NG tube any day.> > >> > > Lou,> > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your> > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > >> > > Hugs,> > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Oh but there are grass and sod ones too.....everything you can imagine. I found one that was even $2000. lol > > > > > > and Beth, > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > > > get to my stage. > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > > > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > > > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > > > our x-rays look. > > > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > > > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > > > thingy you put your finger in). > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > > > doing the sticking. > > > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > > > than a NG tube any day. > > > > > > Lou, > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > > > > > Hugs, > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Oh NO. Bruce, don't over analyze this one..lol they are puppies and very cheep to own and feed. I have a big purse I put her in sometimes when I go to Tampa. Love and Prayers, Peggy ipf 6/04 Florida"Worry looks around, Sorry looks back, Faith looks up." Oh but there are grass and sod ones too.....everything you can imagine. I found one that was even $2000. lol> > >> > > and Beth,> > > I've always been told exactly same thing about> > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> > > get to my stage.> > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of> > > fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> > > or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> > > our x-rays look.> > >> > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> > > oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> > > thingy you put your finger in).> > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> > > how much that would help since you can't deaden> > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> > > doing the sticking.> > >> > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> > > than a NG tube any day.> > >> > > Lou,> > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your> > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > >> > > Hugs,> > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Peggy/Sher Bears are a whole lot simpler. Aren't they, Sher? > > > > > > > > and Beth, > > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about > > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > > > > get to my stage. > > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > > > > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > > > > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > > > > our x-rays look. > > > > > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > > > > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > > > > thingy you put your finger in). > > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden > > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > > > > doing the sticking. > > > > > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > > > > than a NG tube any day. > > > > > > > > Lou, > > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Well Bruce, you could take yours with you but I can't take Rosebud without a cart! lol Mama-Sher, 69; IPF, 3-06, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: 02 & pups Peggy/SherBears are a whole lot simpler. Aren't they, Sher?> > > >> > > > and Beth,> > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about> > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> > > > get to my stage.> > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of> > > > fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> > > > or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> > > > our x-rays look.> > > >> > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> > > > oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> > > > thingy you put your finger in).> > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden> > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> > > > doing the sticking.> > > >> > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> > > > than a NG tube any day.> > > >> > > > Lou,> > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your> > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > > >> > > > Hugs,> > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Have husband carry Rosebud....lol > > > > > > > > > > and Beth, > > > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about > > > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive > > > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at > > > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you > > > > > get to my stage. > > > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of > > > > > fibrosis, and someone said " you've either got it > > > > > or you don't. " But actually your lungs will show > > > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where > > > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more > > > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier > > > > > our x-rays look. > > > > > > > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen), > > > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as > > > > > oxygenation. Your " sats " or sat rate refers to your > > > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a > > > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or > > > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You > > > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the > > > > > thingy you put your finger in). > > > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and > > > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases, > > > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is > > > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood > > > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a > > > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the > > > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal > > > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area > > > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get > > > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden > > > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I > > > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person > > > > > doing the sticking. > > > > > > > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no > > > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my > > > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent > > > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that > > > > > than a NG tube any day. > > > > > > > > > > Lou, > > > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives > > > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty > > > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress. > > > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to > > > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver > > > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a > > > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take > > > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me. > > > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your > > > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard > > > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling. > > > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Bruce...now that is a laugh! hehe. I can picture it now. Mama-Sher, 69; IPF, 3-06, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: 02 & pups Have husband carry Rosebud....lol> > > > >> > > > > and Beth,> > > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about> > > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> > > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> > > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> > > > > get to my stage.> > > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of> > > > > fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> > > > > or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> > > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> > > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> > > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> > > > > our x-rays look.> > > > >> > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> > > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> > > > > oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> > > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> > > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> > > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> > > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> > > > > thingy you put your finger in).> > > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> > > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> > > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> > > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> > > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> > > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> > > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> > > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> > > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> > > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden> > > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> > > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> > > > > doing the sticking.> > > > >> > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> > > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> > > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> > > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> > > > > than a NG tube any day.> > > > >> > > > > Lou,> > > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> > > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> > > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> > > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> > > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> > > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> > > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> > > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> > > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your> > > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> > > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > > > >> > > > > Hugs,> > > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 make SURE you send the Photo of THIS!!!!! SGIO> > > > > >> > > > > > and Beth,> > > > > > I've always been told exactly same thing about> > > > > > 02 toxicity not being a problem with restrictive> > > > > > lung disease. I'm not positive that applies at> > > > > > lower flows, but definitely it's the case once you> > > > > > get to my stage.> > > > > > Also, recently there was a post about degree of> > > > > > fibrosis, and someone said "you've either got it> > > > > > or you don't." But actually your lungs will show> > > > > > on x-ray or CT more or less white area (where> > > > > > there's fibrosis). The worse we get (the more> > > > > > fibrotic tissue there is), the whiter and hazier> > > > > > our x-rays look.> > > > > >> > > > > > Irene (and maybe newbies to the world of oxygen),> > > > > > Yep, oxygen saturation is the same thing as> > > > > > oxygenation. Your "sats" or sat rate refers to your> > > > > > 02 saturation level in the blood, expressed as a> > > > > > percentage. Most doctors want you to stay at or> > > > > > above 90%. Mine regularly drop into the 70's. You> > > > > > find out your sats with a pulse oximeter (yes, the> > > > > > thingy you put your finger in).> > > > > > They can also check your level of blood oxygen and> > > > > > carbon dioxide by taking ABG's (arterial blood gases,> > > > > > usually drawn from an artery in the wrist. This is> > > > > > deeper than a vein, where you normally have blood> > > > > > drawn.) Since this can hurt, you want to ask for a> > > > > > respiratory technician (RT) to do it if you have the> > > > > > option. My experience has ranged from no big deal> > > > > > to hurts like crazy. Some people have the area> > > > > > deadened with lidocaine, although I really don't get> > > > > > how much that would help since you can't deaden> > > > > > the artery that's getting stuck, only the surface. I> > > > > > tend to think it's more in the technique of the person> > > > > > doing the sticking.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also, for those of you in pre-biopsy stage. I'm no> > > > > > hero, but getting the chest tubes taken out after my> > > > > > VATS wasn't that bad. But I had a very competent> > > > > > and gentle person doing the job. I'd rather do that> > > > > > than a NG tube any day.> > > > > >> > > > > > Lou,> > > > > > Because of the immense joy and comfort Misha gives> > > > > > me, I say go with the pup! But you will need plenty> > > > > > of help in caring for her, particularly as you progress.> > > > > > I'm to the point that it's hard even to bend down to> > > > > > put Misha's food bowl on the floor, so my caregiver> > > > > > does it. I have another girl who comes three times a> > > > > > day to walk her. Another friend has offered to take> > > > > > her if I don't make it, which means the world to me.> > > > > > But if you're missing that special dimension of your> > > > > > life and can make it work, I say do it! I've never heard> > > > > > of a Cavachon before but I'll bet they're darling.> > > > > >> > > > > > Hugs,> > > > > > Gwynne IPF 7/04 listed for transplant 3/07 Texas> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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