Re: This is probably one for Dr Bruce too!

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Too much oxygen can be toxic as described below. Now, we're not talking

a bit too much or even a lot to much for a short period of time. What

we're talking about is someone who needs 2 liters and uses 6 daily for

a long time, when 2 or 3 already had them to 98%. So, don't panic that

at times you may be a bit high. Just don't decide if a little is good,

a lot would be great and see how high that thing will go. Most of us

don't even have equipment that would allow us. That's actually why the

units have controls. The 1-5 liter machines and the 10 or even 15 liter

ones are basically the same. But because of your prescription, you have

one or the other. My liquid reservoir is identical to Gwynne's. Just my

control is set to only go up to 6. So, just use reasonable judgement.

But for those who want to know:

Too much oxygen can reduce the hypoxic drive to breathe and increase

ventilation-perfusion mismatching. This causes carbon dioxide retention

and a respiratory acidosis that may be lethal.

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> I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on exersion. I

> now know the problems and complications of having too little O2 keep a

> close eye on my sats.

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> But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

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> I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm contemplating

> doing without medical advice, honest!

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> Love Ze xx

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> (p.s I'm off to cook our dinner now, so I might not reply too soon)

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So can regularly taking too much O2 be addictive? Like narcotics are is what I mean. I'm rarely above 96% so I kind of figure that I'm not taking too much anyway. I'm going to use my oximeter next time I have my blood gases done so I can see how accurate it is.

Like I said, this is only for info, not something I'm planning on doing

Love Ze xx> >> > > > I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on exersion. I> > now know the problems and complications of having too little O2 keep a> > close eye on my sats.> > > > But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?> > > > I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm contemplating> > doing without medical advice, honest!> > > > Love Ze xx> > > > (p.s I'm off to cook our dinner now, so I might not reply too soon)> >>

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No, there is no such thing as becoming addicted to oxygen in that

sense. Are we addicted to it because our bodies need it? Yes. Have

been since birth. But no such thing as addiction to supplemental

oxygen. Most oximeters are very accurate for what they are. Always

can compare to another. Blood gases also have the same imperfections

as oximeters. So much dependent on when and how taken and the entire

process. I was suppose to have ABG under stress, but by the time she

finally hit an artery (her ninth try) I had long ago been laying down

long enough that my body was no longer under stress. Now, my

emotions, yes. Particularly when after about six misses she said the

problem was I was too tense.

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> > > I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on

exersion. I

> > > now know the problems and complications of having too little O2

keep

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> > > close eye on my sats.

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> > > But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

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> > > I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm

> contemplating

> > > doing without medical advice, honest!

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> > > Love Ze xx

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> > > (p.s I'm off to cook our dinner now, so I might not reply too

soon)

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Zena, I have been told by the pulmonary

therapist that with restrictive lung

disease ( that PF in all its forms)

there really is no such thing as too much O2. The lpm level should be

set to your comfort level.

..one that keeps your saturation level in the 90's. Lower than that can

damage all the other cells in our bodies.

We need oxygen for all of our cells.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z

fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild”

PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to

Darah

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Zena wrote:

I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on exersion. I

now know the problems and complications of having too little O2 keep a close eye on my sats.

But what happens if I'm

on too high a dose of O2?

I'm only asking out of

noseyness, it's not something I'm contemplating doing without medical

advice, honest!

Love Ze xx

(p.s I'm off to cook

our dinner now, so I might not reply too soon)

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[Guest guest]

I'm sure the therapist meant that within limits. If your sats at 2

liters are 91 and you turn it to 3 and they are 94 and even 4 for 97

then you're fine. But if you were to turn it and keep it at 7 when 4

gives you 97% then you would be getting too much. Now I can't imagine

one here doing that, and most of us don't even have equipment to

allow that. Its just like 30 minutes at your local oxygen bar won't

hurt a healthy person. Most people use good judgement but the very

reason we warn at Mc's that coffee is hot, is the reason one

can't say unconditionally there is no such thing as too much.

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> > I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on

exersion. I

> > now know the problems and complications of having too little O2

keep a

> > close eye on my sats.

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> > But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

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> > I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm

contemplating

> > doing without medical advice, honest!

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> > Love Ze xx

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> > (p.s I'm off to cook our dinner now, so I might not reply too

soon)

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beth,

The Saturation Level are they the same thing as Oxygen levels? when they tell give me a finger and they put this little thing on it.

My Oxygens levels are only checked in ER. I do pay attention to the numbers, twice it had fallen at 88%. Usually they are at 95%. There were no questions asked by ER nurse or dr why my oxygen level was so low! even though I had given her my history

I don't know what they are when I exert myself etc...

Irene Raynaud's Disease 09/07 PF 03/07 Canada

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Subject: Re: This is probably one for Dr Bruce too!

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That's exactly my understanding from every pulmonologist I've ever seen and from the respiratory therapists at pulmonary rehab also. I remember what happened with Ginger and that sent me running off to ask my doctor about how much was too much O2. If we have a diagnosis of restrictive lung disease, it's virtually impossible for our O2 to be too high. If someone has obstructive lung disease like emphysema or COPD or a combination of restrictive and obstructive lung disease then the concern of too much O2 is real and you should follow your doctors instructions precisely. But for most of us it's just not a real concern or issue.

Oxygen levels below 90 for more than a few minutes are dangerous. Cells begin to die, heart attacks occur, kidney damage, liver damage, muscle damage etc. Like Bruce I don't want something to fail before my lungs and I want to keep the rest of my organs healthy in case I go for a lung transplant at some point.

My O2 needs to be at 3 at rest and somewhere from 4-6 when I'm active and a ton more than that if I'm exercising. That' keeps my sats above 95 and my belief is that keeping it that way protects the rest of my body and keeps me going!

Beth in NC age 48 Fibrotic NSIP 06/06

Re: This is probably one for Dr Bruce too!

Zena, I have been told by the pulmonary therapist that with restrictive lung disease ( that PF in all its forms)

there really is no such thing as too much O2. The lpm level should be set to your comfort level.

..one that keeps your saturation level in the 90's. Lower than that can damage all the other cells in our bodies.

We need oxygen for all of our cells.

Z fibriotic NSIP/o5/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Zena wrote:

I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on exersion. I now know the problems and complications of having too little O2 keep a close eye on my sats.

But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm contemplating doing without medical advice, honest!

Love Ze xx

(p.s I'm off to cook our dinner now, so I might not reply too soon)

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Same Thing. You should at the least ask your doctor for a six minute

walk to see how far they drop in six minutes. If this indicates any

problem, then you should follow up with more study. However, if

you're normally at 95 and only drop to 88 occasionally upon exertion

that would be good overall. Now, the question is where do you drop in

reality upon exertion.

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exersion.  I now know the problems and complications of having too

little O2 keep a close eye on my sats.

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> But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

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> I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm

contemplating doing without medical advice, honest!

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> Love Ze xx

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The 88% was at resting! Last year year I had done the 6 minute walking test and the dr said, i had done 62 steps or higher, I can't remember the exact number

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To: Breathe-Support

Sent: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:55 am

Subject: Re: This is probably one for Dr Bruce too!

Same Thing. You should at the least ask your doctor for a six minute

walk to see how far they drop in six minutes. If this indicates any

problem, then you should follow up with more study. However, if

you're normally at 95 and only drop to 88 occasionally upon exertion

that would be good overall. Now, the question is where do you drop in

reality upon exertion.

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> I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on

exersion. I now know the problems and complications of having too

little O2 keep a close eye on my sats.

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> But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

>

> I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm

contemplating doing without medical advice, honest!

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> Love Ze xx

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Yes and No. Pneumonia would be obstructive, but the reality is that

as you started breathing better you were just getting too much

oxygen. I'm sure at some point after they turned it up your sats rose

nicely and they could have turned it back a bit.

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> > > > I'm on O2 full time. Between 1 and 4 litres depending on

> > exersion. I

> > > > now know the problems and complications of having too little

O2

> > keep a

> > > > close eye on my sats.

> > > >

> > > > But what happens if I'm on too high a dose of O2?

> > > >

> > > > I'm only asking out of noseyness, it's not something I'm

> > contemplating

> > > > doing without medical advice, honest!

> > > >

> > > > Love Ze xx

> > > >

> > > > (p.s I'm off to cook our dinner now, so I might not reply too

> > soon)

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