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I have several " theories " as to what causes flare ups. Might i firstly add

that after a flare up i sometimes do see a significant reducement in

redness. here goes for my theories......firstly, what we all have in common

is stress. we all constantly stress over our condition, trying to understand

why our noses go red, why bumps pop up, why telangiectasia occurs. how often

a day do we all stand in front of the mirror, and " study " our faces? i know

i do it countless times a day, and it's only getting worse. why don't we try

this....instead of standing infront of the mirror 20 times a day, why don't

we forget about it for a few days, perhaps a week. try going for a week

without looking at yourself in the mirror. i know this works for me, in the

sense that my skin does improve because i don't worry about looking in the

mirror all the time, and constantly get disappointed at what i see. when i

take a break for a while, i become curious as to how my skin looks. if it

" feels " good, then i think my i'll look good, and don't go to the mirror and

spoil it! believe it or not, it works, and after a while i do look better.

why? i'll tell you why, because i'm not stressed about my appearance. We all

stress a lot, be it firstly about our lives, and then later about our skin,

when all that anger and pent up frustration in our lives comes to surface,

literally. So your pent up ANGER AND EMOTIONS do ruin your skin. by not

looking at your skin for a while, you would eliminate one of the stresses

from your life, and replace it with curiosity, asking yourself " what does my

skin look like today? i think it feels good, just come out of the shower and

applied my topicals, and it feels good, so it should look good! " so don't

look in that mirror and ruin your thoughts. anyone agree with what i'm

saying here? anyone else tried it? i usually try it when i " give up " on my

skin and just say " ähhh to hell with my skin, i'm fed up! it never

improves! " anyway, i'm interested in hearing your thoughts about this

" theory " . As you can tell, i think psychology and the mind play a huge part

once you get rosacea. They also play a role in its cause. Anyway, any

replies would be welcomed. Thanks in advance,

>From: thetafman@...

>To: rosacea-supporteGroups

>Subject: flare-up

>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:51:12 -0700

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>I first posted to this site about a week ago and at that time I

>indicated that I was having a flare-up. Well, its now subsided after

>about ten days;I think it might have been induced this time due to my

>using sunscreen (on one day only). One pleasant thing that I've noticed

>after my two previous flare-ups, including this most recent one, is

>that immediately in the days following the rosacea redness is reduced

>noticeably. Any similar experiences?

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The ANGER and EMOTIONS theory is very interesting, and I suppose for some it

may be a significant contributor, but it is not so with me... I have had

rosacea for about 8 years. In the last three years I have retired from my

job at the age of 35, am financially secure, have a beautiful family and

loving and responsible husband, I have no worries...I have never been

concerned with my looks...in fact never even noticed my rosacea until other

people started commenting about 3 or 4 months ago. I went back to

photographs and have noticed the marked worsening during this spring and

summer. This period has been one of the happiest and most relaxed for me and

yet the rosacea is worsening....

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I am new to this condition and i can completely identify with what

you wrote

because I do the same exact thing. The problem is how can you not look

in the mirror when you look like a monster who was dipped in some radio

active goo and who will probably die a slow deteriorating death. You

are right stress definitely is a big part but why cant we just get a

cure. This is, pardon the language, Bullshit. Previously did you have

any conditions? When did it arise?What was the time in your life? Did

it ever become controllable? Can we ever expect relief of any kind? I

am new so I need answers to questions like these. Thank you very much

for your time.

MATT

I have several " theories " as to what causes flare ups. Might i firstly

add

> that after a flare up i sometimes do see a significant reducement in

> redness. here goes for my theories......firstly, what we all have in

common

> is stress. we all constantly stress over our condition, trying to

understand

> why our noses go red, why bumps pop up, why telangiectasia occurs.

how often

> a day do we all stand in front of the mirror, and " study " our faces?

i know

> i do it countless times a day, and it's only getting worse. why don't

we try

> this....instead of standing infront of the mirror 20 times a day, why

don't

> we forget about it for a few days, perhaps a week. try going for a

week

> without looking at yourself in the mirror. i know this works for me,

in the

> sense that my skin does improve because i don't worry about looking

in the

> mirror all the time, and constantly get disappointed at what i see.

when i

> take a break for a while, i become curious as to how my skin looks.

if it

> " feels " good, then i think my i'll look good, and don't go to the

mirror and

> spoil it! believe it or not, it works, and after a while i do look

better.

> why? i'll tell you why, because i'm not stressed about my appearance.

We all

> stress a lot, be it firstly about our lives, and then later about

our skin,

> when all that anger and pent up frustration in our lives comes to

surface,

> literally. So your pent up ANGER AND EMOTIONS do ruin your skin. by

not

> looking at your skin for a while, you would eliminate one of the

stresses

> from your life, and replace it with curiosity, asking yourself " what

does my

> skin look like today? i think it feels good, just come out of the

shower and

> applied my topicals, and it feels good, so it should look good! " so

don't

> look in that mirror and ruin your thoughts. anyone agree with what

i'm

> saying here? anyone else tried it? i usually try it when i " give

up " on my

> skin and just say " ähhh to hell with my skin, i'm fed up! it never

> improves! " anyway, i'm interested in hearing your thoughts about

this

> " theory " . As you can tell, i think psychology and the mind play a

huge part

> once you get rosacea. They also play a role in its cause. Anyway,

any

> replies would be welcomed. Thanks in advance,

>

>

> >From: thetafman@...

> >To: rosacea-supporteGroups

> >Subject: flare-up

> >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:51:12 -0700

> >

> >I first posted to this site about a week ago and at that time I

> >indicated that I was having a flare-up. Well, its now subsided after

> >about ten days;I think it might have been induced this time due to my

> >using sunscreen (on one day only). One pleasant thing that I've

noticed

> >after my two previous flare-ups, including this most recent one, is

> >that immediately in the days following the rosacea redness is reduced

> >noticeably. Any similar experiences?

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I just came back from an afternoon visit to Borders Bookstore and found some

very interesting books on autoimmune diseases, i.e. Lupus and Sjogrens and

Rheumatoid Arthritis. As my husband reminded me, (he is a physician) these

syndromes affect people in a wide range of severity and many doctors do not

diagnose with this in mind and therefore misdiagnose. Medicine is NOT cut

and dry. A rheumatologist may be our best bet for getting some answers to

rosacea...it is only a thought as I have tried all other avenues. I am

making an appointment this week. I'll let you know what he or she

recommends...

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- I would be especially interested to hear what your rheumatologist has

to say. I have some sort of degenerative bone disease, and I have wondered

if I should be seeing one instead of my orthopaedist. Terry

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Can anybody tell me what is considered a flare up? I am confused and my

doctor never told me. If your face flushes is that considered a flare

up?

Also, several of you responded to the hot face cold body. What can we

do about it. Is the reason I will get a headache when this happens is

because of the vascular origin.

I am sure glad I finally found some people who know how I feel.

Thanks for all the information.

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I wonder about this myself. I am unaware of having flare-ups per se, but I

have a constant amount of redness on one cheek in particular, and less so on

the other. It really stood out in the summer which is when I first began to

notice, I thought I was getting sunburned.

Maybe now that I'm more aware I will notice this...I never have problems with

my face getting hot, unless I'm exerting myself.

Margaret C.

Can anybody tell me what is considered a flare up? I am confused and my

doctor never told me. If your face flushes is that considered a flare

up?

Also, several of you responded to the hot face cold body. What can we

do about it. Is the reason I will get a headache when this happens is

because of the vascular origin.

I am sure glad I finally found some people who know how I feel.

Thanks for all the information.

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