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You know what's interesting - on my very first visit to my current derm, I

had a few discolorations from old pimples that took forever to disappear (I

think I'm a slow-healer to start with). Anyways, I asked my derm if using

an AHA would make the discoloration disappear quicker. He wasn't too keen

on AHA's - he said something like " it's better to let nature do it's own

healing " , but he didn't elaborate on AHA's & I didn't ask.

But then he's the derm who prescribed me tretinoin, which I think

strengthens collagen. I thought tretinoin was in the same family of drugs

as AHA's - aren't they all retinoids, or vitamin-a derivatives? I'm not

sure, maybe they're not related at all. I just thought that was interesting

how he blew off AHA's in that way. Maybe AHA's are just a lot of cosmetic

company hype?

ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

> Lilly,

>

> Me three about products with AHA's in them. They can come back to bite

> you and cause more redness. A derm from Yale U. said that excess use

> of AHA's ruins collagen. About retin-a, I had a very bad experience

> with it as a teenager and would not recommend it. However,

> posted today about retin-a and she has posted that she has uses. A Dr.

> Kligman, an esteemed derm professor from the U of Penn., recommends it

> for rosacea on the theory that it destroys damaged blood vessels. I

> don't know about that one way or the other...

>

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AHA's and retin-A don't come from the same source. AHA's are acids

that are derived from sources such as sugar cane (glycolic acid comes

from this, I believe). I'm not sure through which process they go

through. Retin-A is a derivative of vitamin A which I think comes out

to be an acid. Also, if used in excess, AHA's damage collagen without

creating new collagen. I have an inkling that it destroys blood vessels

in the process. Maybe this is why your derm advised against it.

Retin-A is supposed to create new collagen, but irritates the skin. It

also makes the skin more sensitive to UV light. BTW, I heard a mild

form of Retin-A sold in cosmetics, called Retinol, can cause breakouts.

I used a Neutrogena lipstick with Retinol in it and got two or three

big zits around my mouth. I've never had a lipstick do that.

Take care!

Matija

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> You know what's interesting - on my very first visit to my current

derm, I

> had a few discolorations from old pimples that took forever to

disappear (I

> think I'm a slow-healer to start with). Anyways, I asked my derm if

using

> an AHA would make the discoloration disappear quicker. He wasn't too

keen

> on AHA's - he said something like " it's better to let nature do it's

own

> healing " , but he didn't elaborate on AHA's & I didn't ask.

>

> But then he's the derm who prescribed me tretinoin, which I think

> strengthens collagen. I thought tretinoin was in the same family of

drugs

> as AHA's - aren't they all retinoids, or vitamin-a derivatives? I'm

not

> sure, maybe they're not related at all. I just thought that was

interesting

> how he blew off AHA's in that way. Maybe AHA's are just a lot of

cosmetic

> company hype?

>

> ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

>

> > Lilly,

> >

> > Me three about products with AHA's in them. They can come back to

bite

> > you and cause more redness. A derm from Yale U. said that excess

use

> > of AHA's ruins collagen. About retin-a, I had a very bad experience

> > with it as a teenager and would not recommend it. However,

> > posted today about retin-a and she has posted that she has uses. A

Dr.

> > Kligman, an esteemed derm professor from the U of Penn., recommends

it

> > for rosacea on the theory that it destroys damaged blood vessels. I

> > don't know about that one way or the other...

> >

>

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Matija,

Ah ha....thanks for clearing that up! I always wondered why my derm was

against AHA's but pro-tretinoin, and now you've answered my question.

thanks!

shannon

ruizdelvizo@... wrote:

> ,

>

> AHA's and retin-A don't come from the same source. AHA's are acids

> that are derived from sources such as sugar cane (glycolic acid comes

> from this, I believe). I'm not sure through which process they go

> through. Retin-A is a derivative of vitamin A which I think comes out

> to be an acid. Also, if used in excess, AHA's damage collagen without

> creating new collagen. I have an inkling that it destroys blood vessels

> in the process. Maybe this is why your derm advised against it.

>

> Retin-A is supposed to create new collagen, but irritates the skin. It

> also makes the skin more sensitive to UV light. BTW, I heard a mild

> form of Retin-A sold in cosmetics, called Retinol, can cause breakouts.

> I used a Neutrogena lipstick with Retinol in it and got two or three

> big zits around my mouth. I've never had a lipstick do that.

>

> Take care!

> Matija

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