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I just read Clinton lost a lot of weight on it. I'm so curious about this

diet but don't want to buy the book. Can anyone describe it in a nutshell?

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>I just read Clinton lost a lot of weight on it. I'm so curious about this

>diet but don't want to buy the book. Can anyone describe it in a nutshell?

>Elaine

I don't think it is anything really innovative.

Kind of Paleo or Mediterranean ... meat and vegies

and fruits. It says you eat " the right carbs

and the right fats " (which is kind of my philosophy,

tho we may disagree about what is " right " ). You

are not allowed sugar or white flour (good, tho I wouldn't

allow whole grain wheat flour either).

The one thing that would be not-NT is that they don't like

animal fats. However, for losing weight I've

found that replacing animal fats with coconut

oil really helps (the South Beach diet doesn't

use coconut oil either, tho I'd guess it's allowed).

The fat part is controversial between people: it is

filling (and I don't really cut down on it much, my diet

is still 40-50% fat or so) but I also feel that when your

body is carrying around a lot of it, you don't need

a lot MORE.

Also, it is a 6-meal a day diet, and I've gone to

the Feast/Fast diet approach. But I DID lose weight

using a diet similar to this one. I would say it

will work fine for most people, you can tweak it. There

is lots of info on their web site.

All in all though, it is still a low-calorie diet. Every

meal is small, and you have to fix a lot of meals every

day. I like the WD approach better ... I only cook once

a day, and then I can eat til I'm full with no

restrictions. I've lost about 30 lbs, not terribly quickly

but without working at it much either.

Here is a sample menu plan below from the SBD website:

-- Heidi Jean

Breakfast

6 oz tomato juice

Scrambled eggs with fresh herbs and mushrooms

2 slices Canadian bacon

Decaffeinated coffee or decaffeinated tea with nonfat milk and sugar substitute

Midmorning snack

1 part-skim mozzarella cheese stick

Lunch

Chicken Caesar salad (no croutons)

2 Tbsp prepared Caesar dressing

Midafternoon snack

1/2 cup low-fat cottage cheese with 1/2 cup chopped tomatoes and cucumbers

Dinner

Mahi mahi

Oven-roasted vegetables

Arugula salad

2 Tbsp balsamic vinaigrette or low-sugar prepared dressing

Dessert

Lemon zest ricotta crème

Phase 2 Meal Plan Sample

Breakfast

1 cup fresh strawberries

Oatmeal (1/2 cup old-fashioned oatmeal

mixed with 1 cup nonfat milk,

cooked on low heat, and sprinkled with cinnamon

and 1 tablespoon chopped walnuts)

Decaffeinated coffee or decaffeinated tea

with nonfat milk and sugar substitute

Midmorning snack

1 hard-boiled egg

Lunch

Mediterranean chicken salad

Midafternoon snack

Fresh pear with 1 wedge Laughing Cow Light Cheese

Dinner

Spinach-stuffed salmon

Vegetable medley

Tossed salad (mixed greens, cucumbers, green peppers,

cherry tomatoes)

Olive oil and vinegar to taste

Dessert

Chocolate-dipped strawberries

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I have gained about 40 or so pounds since I developed RA 6 years ago. I have decided lately that I have to do something about the weight gain and I found the perfect plan. I am on the South Beach Diet. It is an amazing plan that in the 1st two weeks you are restricted on the carbs you can eat so that your system can clean itself out. Then you can slowly add foods back to your life that you enjoyed before. By the end of the diet I will be able to eat almost all the food I used to with slight modifications. (ie. brown instead of white). The nice thing about this plan is that I am able to eat until I am full, so I have not been hungry at all. I am finding this first two weeks a little difficult. But, at least I know there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I am hoping to lose min. of 30 pounds, but i am happy if I just lose a bit too. The lack of activity and drugs that side effect are weight gain are not a good combo.

I will keep you updated on my progress... so far in 5 days... 3 pounds.

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Hi ,

I'm familiar with the South Beach diet, my mother in law has been on

it on & off for about a year now. My sister also has been on Atkins

for about the same amount of time. South beach is VERY similar to

Atkins once you get into the nitty gritty of it and I'm just

suggesting that maybe you ask your dr about it. I was told a high

carb / low fat diet is best for those of us with arthritis. Not sure

why but was. Just thought I'd pass that along :)

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Congratulations on your weight loss. I have also been on South Beach

since 2/04 and lost about 35 pounds. SB is not a low carb diet

contrary to some media hype. It is a good carb, good fat diet. Only

the first two weeks (Phase I) are low carb just to get cravings under

control. Once you detox, then you go to phase II where you

reintroduce fruits, whole grains, and other good (complex) carbs. You

only limit bad fats (e.g. transfats), and simple carbs such as white

bread, white rice and white potatoes. You sub with whole grains,

brown rice, sweet potato, etc. Only simple carbs and other high

glycemic foods are limited due to influence on insulin. Prevention

has a great SB web site for any that have questions. If someone has

health issues with Phase I then one can go directly into Phase II.

But you probably know all of this since you are doing the diet and

read the book. Good luck to both of us and our quest for better

health.

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Wow, that's good to know :) My mother in law has been on the SB diet

for (well, on & off LOL) about a year now. She's cant manage to

stick with it, so she jumps back and forth from phase 1-2 alot :) I

read the book debating whether to try it & never really grasped that

you were able to eat carbs abundantly like that. I know she doesn't

loose anything or just very little once she gets to phase 2 so she

gets discouraged I think. Not only am I a carb addict LOL but my dr.

recommended a high carb / low fat diet, I dont know if it's because

of the condition or maybe the meds?

Anyways, My sister has had great success with Atkins (she lost about

90lbs in a year) but that is very strict, more so than SB. I think

Atkins you get no more than 20 carbs per day where I thought the SB

book recommended about 40/45. For me though, and most likely most

people; that is still very low carb. The average diet has approx

250+ carbs per day!!! SHOCKER I know LOL!

I've gained about 20lbs over the past 2 years and can't manage to

get or keep it off. I went to weight watchers last year and lost it

but slowly put it back on. I just don't feel I'm as active anymore.

I did just start swimming though. It's impossible to walk for

exercise anymore..my feet hurt way to much :( I wish you GREAT

success!!!

Good Luck-

> >

> Congratulations on your weight loss. I have also been on South

Beach

> since 2/04 and lost about 35 pounds. SB is not a low carb diet

> contrary to some media hype. It is a good carb, good fat diet.

Only

> the first two weeks (Phase I) are low carb just to get cravings

under

> control. Once you detox, then you go to phase II where you

> reintroduce fruits, whole grains, and other good (complex) carbs.

You

> only limit bad fats (e.g. transfats), and simple carbs such as

white

> bread, white rice and white potatoes. You sub with whole grains,

> brown rice, sweet potato, etc. Only simple carbs and other high

> glycemic foods are limited due to influence on insulin. Prevention

> has a great SB web site for any that have questions. If someone

has

> health issues with Phase I then one can go directly into Phase

II.

> But you probably know all of this since you are doing the diet and

> read the book. Good luck to both of us and our quest for better

> health.

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Good for you ! Keep at it. It is worth it in the long run for you health and even your emotions.

I am on a 30 day diet...so far I have lost 16 days.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Cinnamon 'N Sugar [mailto:cinnamonNsugar24@...]Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 22:53Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: South Beach Diet

I have gained about 40 or so pounds since I developed RA 6 years ago. I have decided lately that I have to do something about the weight gain and I found the perfect plan. I am on the South Beach Diet. It is an amazing plan that in the 1st two weeks you are restricted on the carbs you can eat so that your system can clean itself out. Then you can slowly add foods back to your life that you enjoyed before. By the end of the diet I will be able to eat almost all the food I used to with slight modifications. (ie. brown instead of white). The nice thing about this plan is that I am able to eat until I am full, so I have not been hungry at all. I am finding this first two weeks a little difficult. But, at least I know there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I am hoping to lose min. of 30 pounds, but i am happy if I just lose a bit too. The lack of activity and drugs that side effect are weight gain are not a good combo.

I will keep you updated on my progress... so far in 5 days... 3 pounds.

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I can do high carb! I love carbs. Unfortunately, they love me too much...

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-----Original Message-----From: TRACY [mailto:bart.tracy@...]Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 07:22Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: South Beach DietHi ,I'm familiar with the South Beach diet, my mother in law has been on it on & off for about a year now. My sister also has been on Atkins for about the same amount of time. South beach is VERY similar to Atkins once you get into the nitty gritty of it and I'm just suggesting that maybe you ask your dr about it. I was told a high carb / low fat diet is best for those of us with arthritis. Not sure why but was. Just thought I'd pass that along :) >

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ugh all that bread?TRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote:

Hi ,I'm familiar with the South Beach diet, my mother in law has been on it on & off for about a year now. My sister also has been on Atkins for about the same amount of time. South beach is VERY similar to Atkins once you get into the nitty gritty of it and I'm just suggesting that maybe you ask your dr about it. I was told a high carb / low fat diet is best for those of us with arthritis. Not sure why but was. Just thought I'd pass that along :) > __________________________________________________

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LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta,

rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living

proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it

because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont

know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it.

If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)

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Sounds like me, I think all food likes me too much. One thing, I'm

def. not a meat eater (not a vegetarian, just not one of my fav

foods) but I sure like everythingelse...I could eat nothing

but " side dishes " and be happy.....surely part of my problem losing

weight :)

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I have to avoid too many carbs when I am less active... have you tried cutting them down when you can't burn them off easily ?..Lynne

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, Compared to what lies within us."

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I have a plan......I am going to be in the hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days? I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home, and I know that I really don't eat much post-op. I may be able to do this detox. thing! gentle hugs! MarciaTRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote:

LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta, rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it. If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)> > > > >

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Marcia, I will keep you in my prayers and hope all goes well for you with the surgery. When are you going in? ~~Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

I have a plan......I am going to be in the hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days? I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home, and I know that I really don't eat much post-op. I may be able to do this detox. thing! gentle hugs! MarciaTRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta, rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it. If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)> > > > >

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oh, thanks so very much, ! I am scheduled for Oct.5th - only 24 days to go! I was going to ask the group to keep me in their prayers, but the hub-bub two weeks ago, about religion, kind of had me wondering if I should...I am glad you offered. Thank You! gentle hugs, Marcia shelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...> wrote:

Marcia, I will keep you in my prayers and hope all goes well for you with the surgery. When are you going in? ~~Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

I have a plan......I am going to be in the hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days? I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home, and I know that I really don't eat much post-op. I may be able to do this detox. thing! gentle hugs! MarciaTRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta, rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it. If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)> > > > >

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I'll be praying tooMarcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

oh, thanks so very much, ! I am scheduled for Oct.5th - only 24 days to go! I was going to ask the group to keep me in their prayers, but the hub-bub two weeks ago, about religion, kind of had me wondering if I should...I am glad you offered. Thank You! gentle hugs, Marcia shelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...> wrote:

Marcia, I will keep you in my prayers and hope all goes well for you with the surgery. When are you going in? ~~Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

I have a plan......I am going to be in the hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days? I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home, and I know that I really don't eat much post-op. I may be able to do this detox. thing! gentle hugs! MarciaTRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta, rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it. If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)> > > > >

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thanks, yellow! gentle hugs, Marcia

--- yellow dancer <yellowplugempress@...>

wrote:

> I'll be praying too

>

> Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...>

> wrote:oh, thanks so very much, ! I am

> scheduled for Oct.5th - only 24 days to go! I

> was going to ask the group to keep me in their

> prayers, but the hub-bub two weeks ago, about

> religion, kind of had me wondering if I

> should...I am glad you offered. Thank You!

> gentle hugs, Marcia

>

> shelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...> wrote:

> Marcia, I will keep you in my prayers and hope

> all goes well for you with the surgery. When

> are you going in? ~~

>

> Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote: I

> have a plan......I am going to be in the

> hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i

> won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so

> the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days?

> I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home,

> and I know that I really don't eat much

> post-op. I may be able to do this detox.

> thing! gentle hugs! Marcia

>

> TRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :)

> I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans,

> pasta,

> rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works,

> my sister is living

> proof but it's just not for me personally. I

> only mentioned it

> because it was something my dr said wouldnt be

> good although I dont

> know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no

> plans of it.

>

> If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd

> be in good shape :)

>

>

>

>

> > >

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Marcia, The way I see it, we can all get offended by something, if we try hard enough. Some of us have been with this group a long time and I for one, know who sustains me everyday and it's to Him that the glory is given and I will not be ashamed or hindered and don't let anyone do that to you! God bless you and I will pray for you now and always! Love, yellow dancer <yellowplugempress@...> wrote:

I'll be praying tooMarcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

oh, thanks so very much, ! I am scheduled for Oct.5th - only 24 days to go! I was going to ask the group to keep me in their prayers, but the hub-bub two weeks ago, about religion, kind of had me wondering if I should...I am glad you offered. Thank You! gentle hugs, Marcia shelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...> wrote:

Marcia, I will keep you in my prayers and hope all goes well for you with the surgery. When are you going in? ~~Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

I have a plan......I am going to be in the hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days? I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home, and I know that I really don't eat much post-op. I may be able to do this detox. thing! gentle hugs! MarciaTRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta, rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it. If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)> > > > >

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Marcia,

Good luck with surgery and you will be on my prayer list...

Kay

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From: Marcia Stoyle

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: South Beach Diet

I have a plan......I am going to be in the hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days? I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home, and I know that I really don't eat much post-op. I may be able to do this detox. thing! gentle hugs! MarciaTRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans, pasta, rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works, my sister is living proof but it's just not for me personally. I only mentioned it because it was something my dr said wouldnt be good although I dont know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no plans of it. If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd be in good shape :)> > > > >

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thanks, Wally! you all are such a great group of

friends. I really appreciate it. this will be

my 4th operation in 5 years. gentle hugs, Marcia

--- Waldyne Bieberdorf <waldyne@...>

wrote:

> Marcia,

> Your on my prayer list for the coming Oct.5th

> operation.

> Hang in there, Wally

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Dear , great BIG gentle hugs, Marcia

--- shelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...>

wrote:

> Marcia, The way I see it, we can all get

> offended by something, if we try hard enough.

> Some of us have been with this group a long

> time and I for one, know who sustains me

> everyday and it's to Him that the glory is

> given and I will not be ashamed or hindered and

> don't let anyone do that to you! God bless you

> and I will pray for you now and always! Love,

>

>

> yellow dancer <yellowplugempress@...>

> wrote:I'll be praying too

>

> Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

> oh, thanks so very much, ! I am

> scheduled for Oct.5th - only 24 days to go! I

> was going to ask the group to keep me in their

> prayers, but the hub-bub two weeks ago, about

> religion, kind of had me wondering if I

> should...I am glad you offered. Thank You!

> gentle hugs, Marcia

>

> shelly smiegal <shelsmieg2000@...> wrote:

> Marcia, I will keep you in my prayers and hope

> all goes well for you with the surgery. When

> are you going in? ~~

>

> Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote: I

> have a plan......I am going to be in the

> hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i

> won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so

> the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days?

> I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home,

> and I know that I really don't eat much

> post-op. I may be able to do this detox.

> thing! gentle hugs! Marcia

>

> TRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote: LOL :)

> I actually don't eat bread, but I love beans,

> pasta,

> rice....all high carbs. I know low carb works,

> my sister is living

> proof but it's just not for me personally. I

> only mentioned it

> because it was something my dr said wouldnt be

> good although I dont

> know why and didn't ask because I knew I had no

> plans of it.

>

> If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then I'd

> be in good shape :)

>

>

>

>

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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thnak you, Kay! I really appreciate all this

wonderful support. gentle hugs, Marcia

--- Kay Simpson <Siwelyak@...> wrote:

> Marcia,

> Good luck with surgery and you will be

> on my prayer list...

> Kay

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Marcia Stoyle

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:42 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: South

> Beach Diet

>

>

> I have a plan......I am going to be in the

> hospital for 5 days, to get my new hip; so i

> won't be eating anything; I'll be on i.v. - so

> the SB diet wants you to detox for 14 days?

> I'll only have to struggle for 9 days at home,

> and I know that I really don't eat much

> post-op. I may be able to do this detox.

> thing! gentle hugs! Marcia

>

> TRACY <bart.tracy@...> wrote:

> LOL :) I actually don't eat bread, but I

> love beans, pasta,

> rice....all high carbs. I know low carb

> works, my sister is living

> proof but it's just not for me personally.

> I only mentioned it

> because it was something my dr said wouldnt

> be good although I dont

> know why and didn't ask because I knew I

> had no plans of it.

>

> If I could just eat less HAhahahahah, then

> I'd be in good shape :)

>

>

>

>

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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