Re: Fist -It's all relative

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Annette:

Living in LA, not being able to move my fingers - especially my middle one - would put me at a distinct disadvantage on the freeways....

Seriously, though, when my hands are affected it really hurts to close them. But they are only affected sporadically which is good since I am a professional cellist. I have these flares in my hands that will come on and last for about 3 days total. And then it's back to being completely normal. Weird. My right foot/ankle is the place where my RA usually lives.

gloria

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If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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Sort of like singing to yourself? Doesn't it get in the way when you

drive?

And Gloria - a cellist - who would have ever thought a cellist would

even consider the rude gesture? I guess in LA you have to. It's a

shock how rude those other people on the road can be.

My friend moved to Hawkesbury - out in the sticks - and he says it's

such a culture shock to be driving where everyone is polite and

friendly.

Annette

> If you know sign language, I can make a " C " but not an " E " .

> If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock

(off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

>

> But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm

sticking to it!

>

> Hugs, Jacy~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many

of them get elected.jacymail@c...

> IM: jacygal - ICQ: 96949087

>

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we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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I think anything that helps is good ... hugs, Lynne

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Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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Well it's difficult to knock on wood sometimes. Sometimes it's more of a slap on wood with my open hand.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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> This is " the summer that wasn't " here in Colorado too.

We are experiencing record heat here in Phoenix. It's QUITE enough summer for

us!!!

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Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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I agree...the only problem is that we had a very wet first part of the "summer" and now the mosquitoes are trying to carry everyone off. Geez Louise, they are terrible.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 19:50Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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> I agree...the only problem is that we had a very wet first part of the

> " summer " and now the mosquitoes are trying to carry everyone off. Geez

> Louise, they are terrible.

>

Please be careful of the mosquitos and use a DEET based spray. My husband almost

died from west nile in July. He is going to be alright, but I wouldn't wish my

last month on anyone. It was the stress of dealing with his illness that

brought on my RA.

Sharon in Phoenix

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Well if we see mammoth mosquitos carrying people across our yard, I'll know where they came from.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

I agree...the only problem is that we had a very wet first part of the "summer" and now the mosquitoes are trying to carry everyone off. Geez Louise, they are terrible.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 19:50Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 09:38Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Well if we see mammoth mosquitos carrying people across our yard, I'll know where they came from.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

I agree...the only problem is that we had a very wet first part of the "summer" and now the mosquitoes are trying to carry everyone off. Geez Louise, they are terrible.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 19:50Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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hi, ! tell you mom that the butterflies and hummers are all here in western New York with me! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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Here's a qyestion for you. Is there any place among this RA group where we can put information about ourselves so we don't have to keep asking each other the same questions all the time? Oh, I'm not complaining, but I forget stuff like where so and so is from,etc. Would be nice to fall back on something like that!Thanks~ <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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You can put it in the files section in your bio.

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-----Original Message-----From: shelly smiegal [mailto:shelsmieg2000@...]Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:40Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Here's a qyestion for you. Is there any place among this RA group where we can put information about ourselves so we don't have to keep asking each other the same questions all the time? Oh, I'm not complaining, but I forget stuff like where so and so is from,etc. Would be nice to fall back on something like that!Thanks~ <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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Hi Marcia,

I will let her know. They must have skipped over Illinois this year and went straight to you. That, or you have something up your sleeve to attract all of them to your area. hehehe. Well enjoy them for us will you please?

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hi, ! tell you mom that the butterflies and hummers are all here in western New York with me! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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Well thanks for that info.I'll make sure not to go to Texas during mosquito season. If I visit Texas again in the future I would like to stay for a while and not have some bully Mosquito trying to take me back to Illinois or somewhere else.

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Those would be the Texas mosquitoes !

Here they only try to carry you off...in Texas they can do it!

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 09:38Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Well if we see mammoth mosquitos carrying people across our yard, I'll know where they came from.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

I agree...the only problem is that we had a very wet first part of the "summer" and now the mosquitoes are trying to carry everyone off. Geez Louise, they are terrible.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 19:50Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

Oh I love the cooler weather also. I am not complaining by any means. It's just a shock to be in the middle of august with 60 degree weather, when you' know it should be in the 90s.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

We are in for highs in the mid 70s here for a few more days. Then it goes into the 80s and then back down. That has been the trend all summer. We have only had a few days in the 90s. But that part I like. I have enjoyed this cooler weather.

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-----Original Message-----From: [mailto:jamie8177@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:39Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

So it's not just here then. My mom and I were commenting on how it has been a wierd summmer here. While we have had some days in the 90s, on the whole, it's been cooler than it usuually is in the summer here, although not as cool as it has been here this week. Plus mom has a butterfly/hummingbird garden in her back yard and she hasn't seen many butterflys or hummers this year. Huh. That's weird that it's been cooler this year.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

This is "the summer that wasn't" here in Colorado too. Hmmm, makes you wonder doesn't it?

We have had some very warm days but much cooler than normal for the most part.

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: Marcia Stoyle [mailto:marciastoyle@...]Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 06:32Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Fist -It's all relative

no summer here in Western New York, either. nice to know you can still knock (on wood) gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Well I'm glad I"m not the only one then!! We've had unseasonably cold weather here in Chicagoland this week (lower 60s), so my hands have been acting up a lot due to the change in weather, which I've grown unacustomed to. Knock on wood my hands have been nice lately. So I've definately been signing a lot this week.

Marcia Stoyle <marciastoyle@...> wrote:

we all talk to ourselves, one way or the other! gentle hugs, Marcia <jamie8177@...> wrote:

Now that I am on meds, I can make a fist. Before my diagnosis it was pretty difficult. I actually am fluent in sign language. So I sign to myself alot, or while in the car to music to keep my hands limber. I don't know if that's medically sound, but hey it gives me something to do.

Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

If you know sign language, I can make a "C" but not an "E".

If I try to point to something my finger points to 1 or 11 o'clock (off to the right or left) rather than 12 o'clock (straight ahead).

But rude gestures? Moi? Never. Uh-huh, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Hugs, Jacy

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-----Original Message-----From: annette2ca [mailto:a.mckinnon@...]Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 19:56Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Fist -It's all relativeI'm thinking it depends what you mean by a fist. It's close but not really a classic fist.Like in traffic if you give someone the finger - they need a translator to get it when you have crooked fingers. Of course no one in this group would ever be so rude, right?Annette

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