Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Elaine was clear about green coconut water and said it was similar to eating unripe green apples (not Granny that have green as their default color) ) and would give you cramps and " D. " I don't want to see my dear friends on BTVC get tummy aches. Please stick with the lady we came in with, Elaine Gottschall. There is enough healthy food on SCD to satisfy our nutritional needs and there are legal enzymes for those who need additional help with absorption. I can't understand the desire to question things that may be harmful when there is so much to choose from. Why do you feel this green coconut is important? Why the interest in something HC agrees is SCD illegal? SCD relies on fanatical adherence for the best chance to be successful and here we are looking for rationales for bending the rules. Why? I will tell you that after eight years, I decided to take back plain brown puffed rice cakes and I was fine with it. I discussed this with Mimi at Pecanbread and she pointed out the advantages especially at my age of continuing strict SCD and she convinced me it is the wisest way, at least for me. Guess what happened with the rice cakes? They had the addictive effect usually found with starch. I wanted to eat the whole package instead of just one. I have tried twice and had this compulsive desire not for just one more, but for an entire package of ten pieces. I will never buy them again! > There was a discussion on Healing Crow today about > green coconuts, which I know are illegal on SCD, and > said as much on the list. > > In the past, I was told that they were comparable to unripe > bananas in terms of their sugar/starch content. > > I got this statement back which I think is worth > bringing to Marilyn's attention since it is completely > different than what I had previously been informed > of: > >> Hi Mara, >> Actually, mature coconuts have a high starch content >> Young coconuts, (niu), have NO starch - all the carbs present in >> young >> coconuts is in the form of glucose and fructose. >> Niu are not at all like green bananas and the sugar content is >> similar to >> very ripe bananas. >> Coconuts are a true nut and would be an advanced food, but the >> sugars in the >> niu are easily digested and the nut does not contain any complex >> carbs. The >> sugars in niu are simply glucose and fructose both of which are >> monosaccharides. Mature coconuts are MUCH harder to digest than young >> coconuts. The jelly-like young coconut and it's water has been >> used since >> time began here in the South Pacific and Asia for digestive >> problems even in >> the youngest infants . >> In other words, unlike the banana, in which the starches change to >> simple >> sugars as they ripen, the coconut does just the opposite - the >> simple sugars >> are found in the young coconut but change into starches as they >> get older. > > It makes me wonder if Elaine was aware of this as this is radically > different > from any information that has been transmitted to me in the past on > the > SCD list. > > Mara > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Carol, Did you see the part in my post where I addressed this to Marilyn? Mara > > > There was a discussion on Healing Crow today about > > green coconuts, which I know are illegal on SCD, and > > said as much on the list. > > > > In the past, I was told that they were comparable to unripe > > bananas in terms of their sugar/starch content. > > > > I got this statement back which I think is worth > > bringing to Marilyn's attention since it is completely > > different than what I had previously been informed > > of: > > > >> Hi Mara, > >> Actually, mature coconuts have a high starch content > >> Young coconuts, (niu), have NO starch - all the carbs present in > >> young > >> coconuts is in the form of glucose and fructose. > >> Niu are not at all like green bananas and the sugar content is > >> similar to > >> very ripe bananas. > >> Coconuts are a true nut and would be an advanced food, but the > >> sugars in the > >> niu are easily digested and the nut does not contain any complex > >> carbs. The > >> sugars in niu are simply glucose and fructose both of which are > >> monosaccharides. Mature coconuts are MUCH harder to digest than young > >> coconuts. The jelly-like young coconut and it's water has been > >> used since > >> time began here in the South Pacific and Asia for digestive > >> problems even in > >> the youngest infants . > >> In other words, unlike the banana, in which the starches change to > >> simple > >> sugars as they ripen, the coconut does just the opposite - the > >> simple sugars > >> are found in the young coconut but change into starches as they > >> get older. > > > > It makes me wonder if Elaine was aware of this as this is radically > > different > > from any information that has been transmitted to me in the past on > > the > > SCD list. > > > > Mara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Mara, Healing Crow is an excellent list for learning about things which are not necessarily strict SCD. I used to enjoy reading it quite a bit, but between dear old Hurricane Katrina, and trying to get a novel sold (and two more finished, since it appears that with new authors, the publishers like to have multiple books in hand before committing to the first one) as well as learn Pagemaker so I can get Louisiana SCD Lagniappe completed, I just haven't had time. Thanks for bringing the information about green coconuts to my attention. I think, though, that I, personally, will steer clear of green coconuts and their milk. My reason for doing so is not merely that Elaine didn't authorize it. With the nut-soaking, I, like Elaine did, feel it adds an additional complication to the food preparation which may be unnecessary. Given that I live in the mold and mildew and yeast capital of the universe, I'm especially worried about those issues. (Like we SCDers don't have enough to do and learn?) With the green coconut water and meat, it's a whole food which could be an issue. I've seen so many things which are " traditionally used " for digestive disorders (such as slippery elm, which is mucilaginous, and therefore starchy) which may give temporary relief, but ultimately exacerbate the problem. I've had IBS for almost 32 years. THe only thing which has helped is strict SCD. If I'm exercising undue caution here, so be it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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