Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 There is someone posting a link to this study all over the Internet. He may get here one of these days. The link is to NUTRITION 2000 at http://www.nutrition2000.com/Press_Releases/NUTRITION%202000%20MAJOR%20PROSTATE%20CANCER%20PROTOCOL%20STUDY.asp It is one of the weirdest claims I’ve ever seen made in amongst very many weird claims, but I think the clue in the massive drop in PSA claimed is in the detail <snip>What were the side effects of the protocol? The only negative side effects were some breast tenderness and a diminished libido. <snip> That rings warning bells amongst many ‘old timers’ who remember the claims made for PC-Spes and Prostasol all based around diethylstilboestrol (DES) DES was an excellent way of reducing PSA and, indeed of managing PCa (and is still used in Britain and in a very few instances in the US) but a serious side effect is that it can cause thrombosis, according to all the studies. To possibly take an unknown quantity of DES in NUTRITION 2000, without medical supervision might be very dangerous. All the best Terry Herbert I have no medical qualifications but I was diagnosed in ‘96: and have learned a bit since then. My sites are at www.yananow.net and www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za Dr “Snuffy” Myers : " As a physician, I am painfully aware that most of the decisions we make with regard to prostate cancer are made with inadequate data " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Terry Herbert wrote: > There is someone posting a link to this study all over the > Internet. He may get here one of these days. The link is to > NUTRITION 2000 at > http://www.nutrition2000.com/Press_Releases/NUTRITION%202000%20MAJOR%20PROSTATE%\ 20CANCER%20PROTOCOL%20STUDY.asp > > It is one of the weirdest claims I’ve ever seen made in amongst > very many weird claims, but I think the clue in the massive > drop in PSA claimed is in the detail <snip>What were the side > effects of the protocol? The only negative side effects were > some breast tenderness and a diminished libido. <snip> That > rings warning bells amongst many ‘old timers’ who remember the > claims made for PC-Spes and Prostasol all based around > diethylstilboestrol (DES) Terry, To your great credit as a gentleman, you did not mention the simplest explanation of the press release. It seems to me more than barely possible that the study was never done, the 151 patients never existed, the whole thing was made up out of whole cloth, and the author of the press release is an outrageous liar who hopes to make a fortune selling his snake oil. I noted, for example, that no person's name is attached to the study - an immediate red flag - and no actual ingredients of the miracle formula are listed. I appeal to the old principle here, if it's too good to be true, it's probably not true. I wrote to the email address listed on the press release asking for more details. If I get a reply, I'll post it here. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I always knew you were smarter than I am, Alan!! Most interested to hear if you get a response to your e-mail – other than a request for cash. Perhaps Nutrition 2000 is a subsidiary of ARIZONA HERPETOLOGICAL PROCESSORS LLC – see http://www.yananow.net/troopc.htm#snakeoil All the best Terry Herbert I have no medical qualifications but I was diagnosed in ‘96: and have learned a bit since then. My sites are at www.yananow.net and www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za Dr “Snuffy” Myers : " As a physician, I am painfully aware that most of the decisions we make with regard to prostate cancer are made with inadequate data " From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Alan Meyer Sent: Sunday, 7 March 2010 1:50 PM To: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Re: " New " Nutrition Study Terry Herbert <ghenesh_49optusnet.au> wrote: > There is someone posting a link to this study all over the > Internet. He may get here one of these days. The link is to > NUTRITION 2000 at > http://www.nutrition2000.com/Press_Releases/NUTRITION%202000%20MAJOR%20PROSTATE%20CANCER%20PROTOCOL%20STUDY.asp > > It is one of the weirdest claims I’ve ever seen made in amongst > very many weird claims, but I think the clue in the massive > drop in PSA claimed is in the detail <snip>What were the side > effects of the protocol? The only negative side effects were > some breast tenderness and a diminished libido. <snip> That > rings warning bells amongst many ‘old timers’ who remember the > claims made for PC-Spes and Prostasol all based around > diethylstilboestrol (DES) Terry, To your great credit as a gentleman, you did not mention the simplest explanation of the press release. It seems to me more than barely possible that the study was never done, the 151 patients never existed, the whole thing was made up out of whole cloth, and the author of the press release is an outrageous liar who hopes to make a fortune selling his snake oil. I noted, for example, that no person's name is attached to the study - an immediate red flag - and no actual ingredients of the miracle formula are listed. I appeal to the old principle here, if it's too good to be true, it's probably not true. I wrote to the email address listed on the press release asking for more details. If I get a reply, I'll post it here. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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