Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Fallacies about the U.S. healthcare system are likewise common, not only in the U. K., Canada and most of Europe, but even in the U.S. For example, the claim that 40+ million Americans have no access to health insurance is an example. This number includes healthy young workers who have access but choose not to buy health insurance because they would rather spend the money on other things. It also includes those who had no health insurance at some time during the year (perhaps for a brief period between jobs)but have since obtained it. It also includes an estimated 8 million who are eligible for Medicaid (health insurance for the poor) but who for some reason (ignorance, laziness etc.) have not signed up for it. The true figure for people who don't qualify for Medicaid, don't get health insurance on the job, and truly can't afford to buy it themselves is estimated at less than 10 million. More than 400,000 people come to the U.S. and pay U.S. rates for U.S. medical treatment every year. We must be doing some things right. Mike C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Mike wrote: Fallacies about the U.S. healthcare system are likewise common <snip> That is apparent from your recounting of some of them. An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948) U.S. Health Care > Fallacies about the U.S. healthcare system are likewise common, not only > in the U. K., Canada and most of Europe, but even in the U.S. For example, > the claim that 40+ million Americans have no access to health insurance is > an example. This number includes healthy young workers who have access but > choose not to buy health insurance because they would rather spend the > money on other things. It also includes those who had no health insurance > at some time during the year (perhaps for a brief period between jobs)but > have since obtained it. It also includes an estimated 8 million who are > eligible for Medicaid (health insurance for the poor) but who for some > reason (ignorance, laziness etc.) have not signed up for it. The true > figure for people who don't qualify for Medicaid, don't get health > insurance on the job, and truly can't afford to buy it themselves is > estimated at less than 10 million. > More than 400,000 people come to the U.S. and pay U.S. rates for U.S. > medical treatment every year. We must be doing some things right. > Mike C. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > There are just two rules for this group > 1 No Spam > 2 Be kind to others > > Please recognise that Prostate Cancerhas different guises and needs > different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some > men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not > choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we > cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at > other options. > > Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking reply > Try to change the title if the content requires it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Mike, With all due respect, I note that I found little in your post dealing with PCa, which is the focus of this group. Perhaps a better and more effective forum for you post might be a political newsgroup. Best regards,JeffSubject: U.S. Health CareTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 3:11 PM Fallacies about the U.S. healthcare system are likewise common, not only in the U. K., Canada and most of Europe, but even in the U.S. For example, the claim that 40+ million Americans have no access to health insurance is an example. This number includes healthy young workers who have access but choose not to buy health insurance because they would rather spend the money on other things. It also includes those who had no health insurance at some time during the year (perhaps for a brief period between jobs)but have since obtained it. It also includes an estimated 8 million who are eligible for Medicaid (health insurance for the poor) but who for some reason (ignorance, laziness etc.) have not signed up for it. The true figure for people who don't qualify for Medicaid, don't get health insurance on the job, and truly can't afford to buy it themselves is estimated at less than 10 million. More than 400,000 people come to the U.S. and pay U.S. rates for U.S. medical treatment every year. We must be doing some things right. Mike C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Mike et al., Thank you thank you thank you - truly. Repeated ad nauseum or not truth is truth. I am grateful for the quote from Ghandi--been paraphrasing that one for years. Giving lectures to RNs at the University on finances in healthcare. Globally and here in the United States it is one of the most complicated subjects possible. There is so much simplistic logical fallacy with supercharged semantics thrown out there it can make anyone's head spin. Something needs to be done and we will learn while the dust is settling. Back to supporting men and their families with prostate cancer please. Thank you Steve J and the other Steve. I rarely feel the need to add to the value of what is shared-you all are awesome. Steve H. U.S. Health Care> Fallacies about the U.S. healthcare system are likewise common, not only > in the U. K., Canada and most of Europe, but even in the U.S. For example, > the claim that 40+ million Americans have no access to health insurance is > an example. This number includes healthy young workers who have access but > choose not to buy health insurance because they would rather spend the > money on other things. It also includes those who had no health insurance > at some time during the year (perhaps for a brief period between jobs)but > have since obtained it. It also includes an estimated 8 million who are > eligible for Medicaid (health insurance for the poor) but who for some > reason (ignorance, laziness etc.) have not signed up for it. The true > figure for people who don't qualify for Medicaid, don't get health > insurance on the job, and truly can't afford to buy it themselves is > estimated at less than 10 million.> More than 400,000 people come to the U.S. and pay U.S. rates for U.S. > medical treatment every year. We must be doing some things right.> Mike C.>>>> ------------------------------------>> There are just two rules for this group> 1 No Spam> 2 Be kind to others>> Please recognise that Prostate Cancerhas different guises and needs > different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some > men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not > choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we > cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at > other options.>> Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking reply> Try to change the title if the content requires it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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