Re: Introduction; starrydust,

May 19, 2006

I think it may be just the q-tip hitting the entrance of the vagina.

Because it's only one localized part of the entrance. But it's that

one localized part that causes so much pain. What i don't understand

is why i can't tolerate a q-tip but can get a tampon in with no

problem. As long as its the plastic kind, i can use up to to a

super. (but they have to be of the slimmer variety)

>

> Starrydust:

>

> I'm 21 with vestibulitis and I don't have the itching or all over

burning or

> anything, but intercourse is impssible and gyn. exams are painful.

This quote

> of yours sounds exactly like me:

>

> " And if i can't even handle a q-tip during an

> examination...how will I handle sex? Tampons for some reason

though

> have never been a problem, only when pulling them out do they

hurt. "

>

> I can wear tampons, but if I wear anything larger than Regular

size, I can't

> get it out without EXTREME pain like my insides are being torn

out. My

> question is, is it the q-tip hitting the vaginal entrance that

causes extreme pain,

> or is it like you can't even get anything inside of you because

you are closed

> off? That would be the difference between vestibulitis and

vaginismus. Take a

> look at vaginismus.com and see if any of the stories sound like

you. I hope

> you feel better soon and I think you will find all the women in

this group very

> insightful and compassionate! Welcome!

> -

>

May 19, 2006

Maybe it's because you are doing it yourself? You are in control and know if it even starts to hurt you quit immediately.

From: VulvarDisorders [mailto:VulvarDisorders ] On Behalf Of starrydust182Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:17 PMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Re: Introduction; starrydust,

I think it may be just the q-tip hitting the entrance of the vagina. Because it's only one localized part of the entrance. But it's that one localized part that causes so much pain. What i don't understand is why i can't tolerate a q-tip but can get a tampon in with no problem. As long as its the plastic kind, i can use up to to a super. (but they have to be of the slimmer variety)>> Starrydust:> > I'm 21 with vestibulitis and I don't have the itching or all over burning or > anything, but intercourse is impssible and gyn. exams are painful. This quote > of yours sounds exactly like me:> > "And if i can't even handle a q-tip during an > examination...how will I handle sex? Tampons for some reason though > have never been a problem, only when pulling them out do they hurt."> > I can wear tampons, but if I wear anything larger than Regular size, I can't > get it out without EXTREME pain like my insides are being torn out. My > question is, is it the q-tip hitting the vaginal entrance that causes extreme pain, > or is it like you can't even get anything inside of you because you are closed > off? That would be the difference between vestibulitis and vaginismus. Take a > look at vaginismus.com and see if any of the stories sound like you. I hope > you feel better soon and I think you will find all the women in this group very > insightful and compassionate! Welcome!> ->

May 20, 2006

I too have not had problems with inserting tampons. My Hubby or

myself can also insert a finger or two with out trouble as long as it

goes straight in. It misses the vestibule skin on the sides. Also a

tampon is slender and smooth, so it doesn't really put direct

pressure on the vestibule area.

When my husband or me move the fingers to the sides it does hurt and

obviously so do a penis because it is much larger and puts pressure

on all of the skin in the vestibule opening. I didn't even really

know I had vv until sex started because tampons were no problem.

Melinda

> is why i can't tolerate a q-tip but can get a tampon in with no

> problem. As long as its the plastic kind, i can use up to to a

> super. (but they have to be of the slimmer variety)

>

> >

> > Starrydust:

> >

> > I'm 21 with vestibulitis and I don't have the itching or all over

> burning or

> > anything, but intercourse is impssible and gyn. exams are

painful.

> This quote

> > of yours sounds exactly like me:

> >

> > " And if i can't even handle a q-tip during an

> > examination...how will I handle sex? Tampons for some reason

> though

> > have never been a problem, only when pulling them out do they

> hurt. "

> >

> > I can wear tampons, but if I wear anything larger than Regular

> size, I can't

> > get it out without EXTREME pain like my insides are being torn

> out. My

> > question is, is it the q-tip hitting the vaginal entrance that

> causes extreme pain,

> > or is it like you can't even get anything inside of you because

> you are closed

> > off? That would be the difference between vestibulitis and

> vaginismus. Take a

> > look at vaginismus.com and see if any of the stories sound like

> you. I hope

> > you feel better soon and I think you will find all the women in

> this group very

> > insightful and compassionate! Welcome!

> > -

> >

>

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May 22, 2006

Wow! It is amazing that I can say the exact same thing about the

tampons, sex and everything else that you are feeling! I cna't

believe that there are soooo many people feeling the same things but

yet still suffering! I too, have no problem putting in a tampon, or

a finger or 2 straight in. When I pull the tampon out (which I

never use anymore due to having to take it out!) I am in extrmeme

pain as well. Every so often I will try again to use them but when

I take it out it is too painful. What I do is take a squirt bottle

and soak the tampon by spraying up as I pull out so there are no dry

areas to cause sticking to the sides and i find that it helps

somewhat. Even though the water causes it to expand more, it is

more wet so it slides out better. It is the only way I could get it

out without screaming! Same iwth the fingers, if my hubby moves

them too much to the sides instead on in and out, it is painful.

This is why I feel that there is more to my problem than

vaginismus.

Just a quick jog into my past, Just recently I was diagnosed after 5

years of pain with intercourse, as having vulvar vestibulitis. It

all started after my 1st child 5 years ago and have been having

problems ever since. Have been married for 9 years (together for 13)

and had an extremely active sex life and since 2001 I have not had

intercourse since except to see if my treatments have worked and to

do my infertility treatments to get pregnant for my 2nd. I am now

scheduled for a vestibulectomy in June after getting diagnosed and

am ready to get that inflammed area gone! This treatment seems as

if it makes sense to me compared to everything that I have heard

from my other doctors I have seen. Nothing else has worked. I went

to get another opinion when the doc told me surgery and another doc

is telling me to do PT on myself and that I may not need surgery. I

have tried it but it doesn't feel right and it hurts to touch the

sides so I feel like I am wasting my time. If the sides still hurt,

what good is therapy if I would not be able to get a penis past the

front?? Anyone have any thoughts?? Anyway, best luck to all of you

who are sharing your ordeals and I will keep you updated on my

progress as well! Thanks,

> > >

> > > Starrydust:

> > >

> > > I'm 21 with vestibulitis and I don't have the itching or all

over

> > burning or

> > > anything, but intercourse is impssible and gyn. exams are

> painful.

> > This quote

> > > of yours sounds exactly like me:

> > >

> > > " And if i can't even handle a q-tip during an

> > > examination...how will I handle sex? Tampons for some reason

> > though

> > > have never been a problem, only when pulling them out do they

> > hurt. "

> > >

> > > I can wear tampons, but if I wear anything larger than Regular

> > size, I can't

> > > get it out without EXTREME pain like my insides are being torn

> > out. My

> > > question is, is it the q-tip hitting the vaginal entrance that

> > causes extreme pain,

> > > or is it like you can't even get anything inside of you

because

> > you are closed

> > > off? That would be the difference between vestibulitis and

> > vaginismus. Take a

> > > look at vaginismus.com and see if any of the stories sound

like

> > you. I hope

> > > you feel better soon and I think you will find all the women

in

> > this group very

> > > insightful and compassionate! Welcome!

> > > -

> > >

> >

> > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS**

> >

> > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders

> > to search our archives, files, articles, etc.

> >

> > ***

May 22, 2006

Well, yeah.

PT (as with any other treatment for this awful disorder) doesn't work

overnight. I had 8 months of PT before I was right again. You know the

surgery recovery time and the PT you have to do with it has been taking

women on this list 6 to 12 months and there is still residual pain from the

surgery. I'd sure ask for a consensus about remaining pain after surgery

from this list before I got the surgery.

Good luck whatever you do

Dusty