Re: Weight Loss StrategiesEDD

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DuNord wrote:

>On our Yahoo homepage it says we have 796 members . Lets start with a

>little survey of these folks, why don't we.

>

>I lost 40 pounds 4 years ago and I have kept it off. I was seriously low

>carbing and wanting to lose, I had a hysterectomy which further helped some,

>but I resumed my lcing and the weight came off nicely. I have kept these

>pounds off, and hope to lose another 40 this year, using the low carb eating

>way of life and walking two to three miles a day.

>

Okay, I don't mind being embarrassed in public. But let's add

to the questionnaire:

if you lost weight and kept it off,

Are you as thin as you want? Do you have more to lose?

In addition to dieting, have there been any lifestyle

changes that increased exercise/exertion you get?

(It's not fair to lose weight through exercise and claim

dieting did it.)

My answers, are:

Yes, I've lost about 50# and kept it off for more

than 5 years. But I didn't diet.

No, I remain seriously fat. I'd like to lose a lot more.

Yes. Came out of retirement and got a job. Got

diabetes and began exercising. Walking and weightlifting.

I attribute the weight loss to the walking &

weightlifting mostly. Being more active due to the job is probably a

factor too.

Edd

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This is going to be a busy year but I will try to see how the thin do it. I

realized that to lose my 14 lbs with W/W and low carb I had to put that number

one in my life--Well, God and then the food plan. I got off track with the

stress of my move and husband's aliments but still did not gain. But the

diabetes threw me. I am back the the Number 1 position and carefully eating W/W

points and as low carb as possible. Good BG today on this method. I rode the

stationary bike 43 minutes but then the phone rang. I aim for 30 minutes 5 days

a week plus the other exercise walking around these acres for the building of

the home etc. I want at least all that 14 lbs off again. It was hard to get it

off. I think the glypicide did me in. But I did not regain all of it. I will

weigh once a week I guess. G

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But how many dieters do we know who have lost

all the weight they want and kept it off for as little as 5 years? I

don't know any. When you can't find the successes, then the method

doesn't work.

I know quite a few, Edd, but they've learned how to eat in a different

way. They're not on a diet... they just have learned a different way to

eat. My sister hasn't kept it off for 5 years, but she's kept it off for 2

years. After eating this way for 2 years, chances are, she's not going to

switch back to her old way of eating. I know other people who have kept if

off for over 10 years. I live in a small town, and so I see the people that

I used to go to WW with... many of them haven't gained their weight back.

If your doctor gave you a pill that didn't work, he

could blame you for that failure. He could tell you to continue taking

the pill and try harder. That's what we do with dieting. " They went

back to their old habits... "

I don't agree with that analogy. If my doctor gave me a pill that didn't

work, and he told me to continue taking it anyway, then he would be at

fault. However, if it worked, but it quit working *only* because I didn't

take it, then he could blame me, and he would be right. That's what people

who go back to their old habits do. It just makes sense to me that you have

to learn a new way of living... eating less and exercising more to lose

weight. The hard part is not to go back to the old ways of eating. That's

why WW has maintenance, and that's why they have a good success rate....

they help you to stick with it. Now, if they would only get on the low carb

band wagon :-)

Sandy

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Sandy hit it - the point is that a " diet " is considered to be a

temporary change in eating patterns in order to lose a small amount of

weight. Once the weight is lost the " dieter " stops the diet and goes

back to eating patterns that put the weight right back on. If one is

overweight and wants to lose weight one must change one's eating

patterns, not temporarily, but for good and ever. If what you are doing

now isn't working for you, you have to change. People who view dietary

changes as temporary will not be successful in staying at their goal

weight. And most people apparently continue to view losing weight as a

temporary diet change.

CarolR

Sandy wrote:

> But how many dieters do we know who have lost

> all the weight they want and kept it off for as little as 5 years? I

> don't know any. When you can't find the successes, then the method

> doesn't work.

>

> I know quite a few, Edd, but they've learned how to eat in a different

> way. They're not on a diet... they just have learned a different way to

> eat.

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People magazine has a number of people with HUGE weight loss in this weeks

issue. G

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Ok, I am interested in reading it. I will see about getting a copy. I am very

discouraged re FAT today, discouraged as in hopeless. My twin aunts kept their

weight off all their lives, but one died early 60's. But the hardly ate. I was

thinking of them today and our family struggle with weight only on my dad's side

of the family. My mother's relatives are natural thins. G

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No, I do not think I got the thin genes, I seemed to get the worst of each side

of the family. But I have no fat relatives on my mother's side and we learned to

cook and eat from the thin side. G

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Glory33 wrote:

>People magazine has a number of people with HUGE weight loss in this weeks

issue. G

>

>

Yes, you see those articles all the time. People lose weight all

the time. It's very common. I'm just saying that for the vast

majority of people who diet, it's only temporary. When you read the

" People " magazine article, see if it tells you how long they've kept

their weight off.

If you're interested in reading, I recommend _Fat, Fighting the

Obesity Epidemic_, by Pool. It summarizes the research on

obesity. It's written by a medical journalist, so it's an easy read.

Edd

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Glory33 wrote:

> My mother's relatives are natural thins. G

>

Then there's a good chance you have those thin genes.

Hope so.

Edd

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I lost 30 pounds over 6 months (extreme low carbing) and have kept off all but 5

pounds for three years. I've been eating pretty carelessly since about

October, and I know that's where these 5 pounds came from. We're also having

less than optimal weather, but the treadmill is calling my name again.

Robin G.

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I'll answer the rest of the questions, too.

I am not as thin as I want to be (I'd like to drop another 20 pounds).

I did start walking 3 times a week for 30 minutes (I'm upping that to 5 times

this month), so I'm sure the exercise had something to do with it. I've also

got a pedometer now, so I know when I'm not making my 10,000 steps a day (which

is most days not making it, but getting closer). No other lifestyle changes.

Robin G.

Re: Weight Loss StrategiesEDD>

Okay, I don't mind being embarrassed in public. But let's add

to the questionnaire:

if you lost weight and kept it off,

Are you as thin as you want? Do you have more to lose?

In addition to dieting, have there been any lifestyle

changes that increased exercise/exertion you get?

(It's not fair to lose weight through exercise and claim

dieting did it.)

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>My twin aunts kept their weight off all their lives, but one died early

>60's. But the hardly ate. I was thinking of them today and our family

>struggle with weight only on my dad's side of the family. My mother's

>relatives are natural thins. G

The curses of metabolism and genetics.

Ask any 95+ yo, " what's the secret to your longevity? " . . . good genes.

Sandy

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I did start walking 3 times a week for 30 minutes (I'm upping that to 5

times this month), so I'm sure the exercise had something to do with it.

I've also got a pedometer now, so I know when I'm not making my 10,000 steps

a day (which is most days not making it, but getting closer). No other

lifestyle changes.

I walk half hour to an hour a day on my treadmill... it keeps me from

gaining weight, but I don't lose much. I haven't been trying, though, and

I've lost 10 lbs. I just focus on exercise to lower my blood sugar and

eating low carb... the rest takes care of itself :-) However, I wouldn't

mind losing another 10 or 20 lbs.

Sandy

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My twin aunts kept their weight off all their lives, but one died early

60's. But the hardly ate. I was thinking of them today and our family

struggle with weight only on my dad's side of the family. My mother's

relatives are natural thins.

My husband and I both tend to put on weight, but since I started low

carb -- and he eats what I do -- he's lost weight :-) Two of our sons take

after us... they're not too heavy, but if they let themselves, they would

gain easily. However, our oldest son takes after my brother, who is thin

and wiry. His brothers are built like football players... stocky.

Sandy

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People who view dietary

changes as temporary will not be successful in staying at their goal

weight. And most people apparently continue to view losing weight as a

temporary diet change.

Carol... exactly :-)

Sandy

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And she walks several miles a week because of pain from

Osteoporosis...the walking helps to make her bones stronger and helps make

the pain go away after she starts walking.

And, the walking builds muscle, which raises her metabolism. I think that

is what is so interesting about exercise... that building muscle means a

higher metabolism.

Sandy

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Edd the book on obesity came today by Pool. G

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Glory33 wrote:

>Edd the book on obesity came today by Pool. G

>

Well, that was quick. I hope you find it interesting.

Let us know.

Edd

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On our Yahoo homepage it says we have 796 members . Lets start with a

little survey of these folks, why don't we.

Sounds like a great plan :-)

I lost 40 pounds 4 years ago and I have kept it off.

That's wonderful, Jo. I lost about 30 lbs., put 10 back on, but never

re-gained the 20. Then, I lost the 10 in the last year or so.

Sandy H.

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hi there i lost 35 pounds gained back 10 lbs am now going up and down 5-10

lbs. will probably lose if i watched my carbs more carefully i do 6 aerobic/

step classes per week so definetly no more room for excercise. i swam in the

reed seas yesterday for 3 hrs so that made 7 days of excercise. cheeky....my

weight stubborness is making me MMMMMAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDD!! but than god my

sixe is 10-14 had gone up to 14-16!! cheeky

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