Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 So, .... What is going to happen with liquid under the new Medicare guidelines. Will they continue to fill after 36 months or will that be our expense? Are you going to be allowed to keep your concentrator along with the liquid? This is all getting way too complicted for my poor OD brain. Hugs, Joyce >> Had a long talk with my O2 company about going on Liquid O. They "think" they can get me two companion portables and a large home tank. They will loan me a travel tank that weight 95 lbs full. It will fit in the SUV but will have to be lifted out to fill portable. Have not checked the fit in the extended cab truck.> We talked about medicare payment for my o2. We all know that they will pay for 36 months then the equipment will be mine. I have been on 02 since 9/04 but medicare o2 since 2/07. She called it a progressive system, meaning they will pay only 36 time no matter what company you are with, can't change to get more months> The scary example she gave me was this. If I had medicare 02 for 30 months and i was not happy with the service I was getting from her. So I went across the street to the other guy in town. He would be over joyed to get me a new concentrator, portable and liquid till he found that I had only 6 more months that medicare would pay. It would cost him $x,xxx to provide me all the new stuff, but 6 months times Medicare payment of $yyy would not equal his cost so he would not take me on as a new client. I would have to stay with the one I was not happy with.> > As I was typing this I came up with other scary thoughts. > That would happen if I had used 33 months of medicare payments and need to go to a new high flow concentrator, would any company give me one?> > That would happen if i had used all 36 months up and needed a larger unit would any one give me one or would i have to pay for it all myself?> > Us medicare people had better had a long talk with the 02 people. It sound like everyone should get a ten LPM machine to cover our back side. LOL > > > > > > > P PM (Polymositis) 12/98, UIP 8/00, o2 24/7 8/04, PH 3/06, ILL yo 59> > ---------------------------------> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Peggy wrote: Does your LOX just come out of one nose prong? My right nostril is feeling abused. I sat the Marithon in the floor next to my chair and it froze to the carpet.. I don't know about this stuff. The lady said if we spill it and stomp on it or a car runs over it, it could blow up... WHAT is that about????? WHAT!!!!!!! ???? > >> > Had a long talk with my O2 company about going on Liquid O. They > "think" they can get me two companion portables and a large home > tank. They will loan me a travel tank that weight 95 lbs full. It > will fit in the SUV but will have to be lifted out to fill portable. > Have not checked the fit in the extended cab truck.> > We talked about medicare payment for my o2. We all know that they > will pay for 36 months then the equipment will be mine. I have been > on 02 since 9/04 but medicare o2 since 2/07. She called it a > progressive system, meaning they will pay only 36 time no matter what > company you are with, can't change to get more months> > The scary example she gave me was this. If I had medicare 02 for > 30 months and i was not happy with the service I was getting from > her. So I went across the street to the other guy in town. He would > be over joyed to get me a new concentrator, portable and liquid till > he found that I had only 6 more months that medicare would pay. It > would cost him $x,xxx to provide me all the new stuff, but 6 months > times Medicare payment of $yyy would not equal his cost so he would > not take me on as a new client. I would have to stay with the one I > was not happy with.> >> > As I was typing this I came up with other scary thoughts.> > That would happen if I had used 33 months of medicare payments and > need to go to a new high flow concentrator, would any company give me > one?> >> > That would happen if i had used all 36 months up and needed a > larger unit would any one give me one or would i have to pay for it > all myself?> >> > Us medicare people had better had a long talk with the 02 people. > It sound like everyone should get a ten LPM machine to cover our back > side. LOL> >> >> >> >> >> >> > P PM (Polymositis) 12/98, UIP 8/00, o2 24/7 8/04, PH 3/06, > ILL yo 59> >> > ---------------------------------> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Peggy: Ok.....first, when you're hooked up directly to the reservoir, the oxygen comes out just like it does from your concentrator, except purer and no noise. Now, when you use the Marathon, the standard setup is coming out of one side. The other side gets your exhale and tells the equipment to send you more. However, there are cannulas for the Marathon that both send oxygen and get the exhale from both nostrils. This might, however, be even another reason to go from the Marathon to the Companion 1000. In addition to being bigger it uses a traditional cannula. Note also that Caire makes portable liquid oxygen equipment that uses traditional cannulas. Now you can on the Marathon switch the connection at the unit so its coming into the other nostril for a while. The lady was right but not helpful. A Helios Plus or Helios Marathon must be either upright, on their back, or in between. They cannot be turned face down or on their side. They will leak if that is done. However, you can wipe the leak up with a towel (don't touch it) and then refill. Yes, if you threw a match down where you just tipped it you could probably set a fire if you tried enough but the odds of you dumping it in the street, and then a car running over it and exploding isn't very high. Are there suppliers available to you other than Apria? Were you happy with your oxygen before trying liquid and did some of us perhaps convince you to do something you regret? Seems sort of a backward crazy situation too the way they are setting it all up. It's just very strange to use a concentrator at home and liquid out. Most people who go to liquid, go to it all the way. Yes, its lighter and that gives it an advantage on portability. But when you have the reservoir there, why spend $40-50 on electricity for a concentrator per month-yes it does use more than even your refrigerator. I'm a bit surprised insurance or medicare let you keep a concentrator with a reservoir. As to freezing to carpet or anything, in addition to position, especially when filling the unit its very important to wipe both the reservoir and portable free of moisture. Also, they both have moisture after, so if you're going to immediately set the portable down on carpet, I'd probably use the towel and wipe it again. One of my biggest complaints about Apria, in retrospect, is that their training and providing guidance sucks. The fact you weren't even told it only comes into one nostril and other things really are making this more difficult. > > > > Had a long talk with my O2 company about going on Liquid O. They > " think " they can get me two companion portables and a large home > tank. They will loan me a travel tank that weight 95 lbs full. It > will fit in the SUV but will have to be lifted out to fill portable. > Have not checked the fit in the extended cab truck. > > We talked about medicare payment for my o2. We all know that they > will pay for 36 months then the equipment will be mine. I have been > on 02 since 9/04 but medicare o2 since 2/07. She called it a > progressive system, meaning they will pay only 36 time no matter what > company you are with, can't change to get more months > > The scary example she gave me was this. If I had medicare 02 for > 30 months and i was not happy with the service I was getting from > her. So I went across the street to the other guy in town. He would > be over joyed to get me a new concentrator, portable and liquid till > he found that I had only 6 more months that medicare would pay. It > would cost him $x,xxx to provide me all the new stuff, but 6 months > times Medicare payment of $yyy would not equal his cost so he would > not take me on as a new client. I would have to stay with the one I > was not happy with. > > > > As I was typing this I came up with other scary thoughts. > > That would happen if I had used 33 months of medicare payments and > need to go to a new high flow concentrator, would any company give me > one? > > > > That would happen if i had used all 36 months up and needed a > larger unit would any one give me one or would i have to pay for it > all myself? > > > > Us medicare people had better had a long talk with the 02 people. > It sound like everyone should get a ten LPM machine to cover our back > side. LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P PM (Polymositis) 12/98, UIP 8/00, o2 24/7 8/04, PH 3/06, > ILL yo 59 > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Calling NBC to get them to stage a test....I want to see it done now. > > > > > > Had a long talk with my O2 company about going on Liquid O. They > > " think " they can get me two companion portables and a large home > > tank. They will loan me a travel tank that weight 95 lbs full. It > > will fit in the SUV but will have to be lifted out to fill portable. > > Have not checked the fit in the extended cab truck. > > > We talked about medicare payment for my o2. We all know that they > > will pay for 36 months then the equipment will be mine. I have been > > on 02 since 9/04 but medicare o2 since 2/07. She called it a > > progressive system, meaning they will pay only 36 time no matter what > > company you are with, can't change to get more months > > > The scary example she gave me was this. If I had medicare 02 for > > 30 months and i was not happy with the service I was getting from > > her. So I went across the street to the other guy in town. He would > > be over joyed to get me a new concentrator, portable and liquid till > > he found that I had only 6 more months that medicare would pay. It > > would cost him $x,xxx to provide me all the new stuff, but 6 months > > times Medicare payment of $yyy would not equal his cost so he would > > not take me on as a new client. I would have to stay with the one I > > was not happy with. > > > > > > As I was typing this I came up with other scary thoughts. > > > That would happen if I had used 33 months of medicare payments and > > need to go to a new high flow concentrator, would any company give me > > one? > > > > > > That would happen if i had used all 36 months up and needed a > > larger unit would any one give me one or would i have to pay for it > > all myself? > > > > > > Us medicare people had better had a long talk with the 02 people. > > It sound like everyone should get a ten LPM machine to cover our back > > side. LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P PM (Polymositis) 12/98, UIP 8/00, o2 24/7 8/04, PH 3/06, > > ILL yo 59 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://smiley.smileycentral.com/download/index.jhtml? partner=ZSzeb112_Z\ > SXXXXXX37 & utm_id=7920> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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