Re: Did you change your diet?

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Your husband's previous diet sounds pretty much like mine, and I was diagnosed with PCa almost a year and a half ago. I've had it treated with radiation, which, at least for now, has worked well. But I must admit I've added more berries, salad and fish. But vegetables? I force myself to eat broccoli, which seems to be the best veggie for the prostate, but the rest of the rabbit food is not my favorite.

Did you change your diet?

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.Sandy

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Sandy, I have been on a low fat, high fiber diet since triple bypass surgery 15 years ago, so I made few changes in my diet. I cut down a little more on milk (skim) and milk products (even low fat yogurt), but like others, I find broccoli almost inedible. The fact that I developed prostate cancer certainly throws doubt on the protective benefits of tomatoes, as I am and have been forever a tomatoe addict. Mike

Subject: Did you change your diet?To: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 1:29 PM

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.Sandy------------------------------------There are just two rules for this group 1 No Spam 2 Be kind to othersPlease recognise that Prostate Cancerhas different guises and needs different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is

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Sandy before my Radical I was consuming ALOT of skim milk and high doses of calcium supplements. My PSA went to 10. I read a Harvard study in 03 about calcium and prostate cancer and dropped the milk and calcium. My PSA dropped to 4. By then a biopsy showed a small amoiunt of cancer so I told them to cut it out. 7 years afterwards I have gone back to about 700 calcium supplements daily as it helps my muscle function. PSA reads .undetectable since op. DougSubject: Did you change your diet?To: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 1:29 PM

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.

I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.

Sandy

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s_l_toth wrote:

> Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer

> and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that

> can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red

> meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to

> say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped

> eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets.

> We've also added more veggies and berries.

>

> I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.

>

> Sandy

I'm not a dietary (or any other kind of) expert so what I have to

say should not be taken as gospel. But for whatever they're

worth, here are my thoughts about diet and cancer.

My diet was very good before I developed the cancer. I ate very

little red meat, about a cup of milk each day, and a little

cheese from time to time. In my mid forties I switched from

coffee to tea because of its supposed health and anti-cancer

properties. But I was diagnosed with PCa at age 57 and almost

certainly had it for some years before then.

As far as I can tell, the only really solid evidence for a

relationship between diet and cancer is pretty much the same as

the relationship between diet and other diseases. If you eat

food in moderate amounts, get a balanced diet, and don't eat

large amounts of sugar and fat, you'll do better than people with

poor diets. People with moderate, balanced diets apparently get

less cancer, less heart disease, and are generally healthier.

I once tried to research the connection with dairy products.

There had been some well known studies claiming a connection.

But when I searched Pubmed I found at least one article where the

researchers had tried to duplicate the results and couldn't.

They found no relationship between dairy and PCa.

Unfortunately, there are tons of studies that find a relationship

between two things where no relationship actually exists. It may

happen because of a non-representative population, or because

people who do A also happen to do B and B is the real cause of

the cancer, not A. I take all of those kinds of studies with a

grain of salt and want to see confirmation from well designed

follow up studies before I regard them as having shown anything.

My conclusion is: Eat a balanced diet. Keep your weight down.

Exercise. I also take some supplements, but who knows if they

really do any good.

One thing your husband should not do is beat himself up about

past eating. In the first place, it may or may not have anything

at all to do with his cancer. There's no way to tell. And in

the second place, it's water under the bridge. What counts now

is the future.

Good luck.

Alan

[Guest guest]

Sandy, When I was diagnosed 5.5 years ago we immediately changed our lifestyle (notice, I did not call it a diet, because it is not).we no longer eat read meat, limit our dairy to skim milk when I drink coffee in the morning and the occasional no-fat yogurt. If we need eggs for a recipe etc. we use egg beaters.

We eat a lot of fruit, veggies, nuts, beans and fish. Though some consider it red meat, we do eat chicken about once a week.This change resulted in me shedding 60 pounds in six months and  have kept 55 of it off for the last 5 years. I feel better, am told I look better and have no regrets.

 

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.

I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.

Sandy

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.

Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

[Guest guest]

Hi : Where do you get daily protein from? Did you also do things like switch from white to brown rice? I am changing my lifestyle - from chicken/no red meat, like you, to no meat - and am struggling to find vegie proteins.

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.Sandy

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

[Guest guest]

I buy Whey Protein powder from Whole Foods, it's aprox $22 a can, lasts 4-5 weeks.Five days a week I have a fresh fruit smoothie for breakfast (straw, blue, black berries, pinapple, Pom juice, ground flax etc.)

 

Hi :  Where do you get daily protein from?  Did you also do things like switch from white to brown rice?    I am changing my lifestyle - from chicken/no red meat, like you, to no meat - and am struggling to find vegie proteins. 

 

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.

I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.Sandy

-- Emersonwww.flhw.org

Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.

Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

[Guest guest]

ThanksDarryl

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.

I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.Sandy

-- Emersonwww.flhw.org

Every 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.

Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

[Guest guest]

,I am sure that I have read many times over that skim milk is a no-no for prostate cancer.

 

Sandy, When I was diagnosed 5.5 years ago we immediately changed our lifestyle (notice, I did not call it a diet, because it is not).we no longer eat read meat, limit our dairy to skim milk when I drink coffee in the morning and the occasional no-fat yogurt. If we need eggs for a recipe etc. we use egg beaters.

We eat a lot of fruit, veggies, nuts, beans and fish. Though some consider it red meat, we do eat chicken about once a week.This change resulted in me shedding 60 pounds in six months and  have kept 55 of it off for the last 5 years. I feel better, am told I look better and have no regrets.

 

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.

I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.

Sandy

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.

Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

-- T Nowak, MA, MSWDirector for Advocacy and  Advanced Prostate Cancer Programs, Malecare Inc. Men Fighting Cancer, TogetherSurvivor - Recurrent Prostate, Thyroid, Melanoma and Renal Cancers

www.advancedprostatecancer.net - A blog about advanced and recurrent prostate cancerwww.malecare.com - information and support about prostate cancer

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/advancedprostatecancer/ - an online support group for men and their families diagnosed with advanced and recurrent prostate cancer

[Guest guest]

My recollection was a little dairy was fine? We only buy organic.I'm down to a few vices and coffee is one. I've tries Soy milk as well and it's horrible

 

,I am sure that I have read many times over that skim milk is a no-no for prostate cancer.

 

Sandy, When I was diagnosed 5.5 years ago we immediately changed our lifestyle (notice, I did not call it a diet, because it is not).we no longer eat read meat, limit our dairy to skim milk when I drink coffee in the morning and the occasional no-fat yogurt. If we need eggs for a recipe etc. we use egg beaters.

We eat a lot of fruit, veggies, nuts, beans and fish. Though some consider it red meat, we do eat chicken about once a week.This change resulted in me shedding 60 pounds in six months and  have kept 55 of it off for the last 5 years. I feel better, am told I look better and have no regrets.

 

Hi everyone. I've been reading a little about diet and cancer and it sounds like prostate cancer is one of those cancers that can be directly related to diet. My husband has been a big red meat eater, milk drinker, and loves his desserts. Needless to say, after reading about diet and prostate cancer, he's stopped eating red meat and reduced his intake of milk and sweets. We've also added more veggies and berries.

I was wondering if anyone else has made any major diet changes.

Sandy

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.

Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

-- T Nowak, MA, MSWDirector for Advocacy and  Advanced Prostate Cancer Programs, Malecare Inc. Men Fighting Cancer, TogetherSurvivor - Recurrent Prostate, Thyroid, Melanoma and Renal Cancers

www.advancedprostatecancer.net - A blog about advanced and recurrent prostate cancerwww.malecare.com - information and support about prostate cancer

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/advancedprostatecancer/ - an online support group for men and their families diagnosed with advanced and recurrent prostate cancer

-- Emersonwww.flhw.orgEvery 2.25 minutes a man is diagnosed with prostate cancer.

Every 16.5 minutes a man, dies from the disease.

[Guest guest]

Don’t like soy milk, but do like almond milk. There are several

different flavors and calorie ranges.

Dave

[Guest guest]

PMFJI --

You _can't_ just " cut out red meat " . You must think like a vegetarian, to fill

that empty space on the plate where a " main course " used to be.

Here are some ideas:

1. If you're eating fish, there are infinite possibilities -- see any cookbook.

2. Many Asian societies use soy products -- tofu, soy milk, etc -- as a regular

part of their diets. See most Asian cookbooks, or any Asian vegetarian

cookbook. Tofu is available in most of the US, if you look around. It's almost

tasteless, so you'll have to learn to season it. But the Asians worked that out

long ago.

3. There are many " soy substitutes " on the market, designed around Western

tastes -- soy burgers, soy hot dogs, soy cutlets. They're more expensive than

tofu, but as somebody said to me, " Sometimes you just want something to put

inside a hamburger bun! "

Costco (in Canada) has frozen " Gardenburgers " -- they're excellent. There's a

little cheese in them, though.

4. Beans -- red beans, black beans, chickpeas, etc -- are a good source of both

protein and fiber. If gas is a problem, try using " Beano " to help digestion.

5. Learn about casserole cooking, and " meal-in-a-baking-dish " cooking. I've

been doing a Mexican-style baked dish (corn tortillas, tofu, a little cheese,

vegetables, and salsa). Microwaved, it's quick, tasty, and very nutritious.

6. Adjust to using many more spices, and more of them, than you're used to.

" Salt and pepper " doesn't cut it on a vegetarian diet.

If you think:

.. . . " What can I substitute for the meat? "

you'll have a hard time. You have to go whole-hog:

.. . . " What _meal_ can I make which will taste good and be nutritionally

adequate? "

The answer will often be in a third-world, or Mediterranean, cookbook.

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> Hi :  Where do you get daily protein from?  Did you also do things like

switch from white to brown rice?    I am changing my lifestyle - from

chicken/no red meat, like you, to no meat - and am struggling to find vegie

proteins. 

>

[Guest guest]

IMHO, " almond milk " is a marketing gimmick. By calling it " milk " , the

manufacturer is letting you _assume_ that it's a substitute for cow's milk.

But almond " milk " has _very little protein_. It's a _lousy_ substitute for

either cow's milk, or soy milk.

Start reading labels!

PS -- I'll stop these posts soon. I have fixed ideas on non-meat diets, based

on 30 years as a vegetarian. And I tend to get a bit shrill . . .

>

> Don't like soy milk, but do like almond milk. There are several different

> flavors and calorie ranges.

>

> Dave

>