Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Here is my " CV " I was originally diagnosed with Prostate Cancer in August 2007 (at the age of 59) and these tests as well as test results ensued: Age-59 August, 2007-PSA 3.17. PSA had doubled in 22 months (in retrospect, my Internist now says that I probably had localized prostatitis which raised my PSA level). Nevertheless I do have Prostate Cancer. Clinical Stage-T1c Gleason score 6 (3+3) Bone Scan-Negative CAT Scan-Negative DRE-Negative Strategy-Active Surveillance, PSA every 3 months. January 9, 2008, PSA test result was 2.13 April 9, 2008, January 9, 2008, PSA test result was 2.33 October 15, 2008 PSA test result was 2.95. Was put on Avodart. March 10 , 2009 PSA test result was 1.41(on Avodart- it's " doubled " to 2.8) April, 2009 -Had second biopsy in (10 cores) Gleason was 7 (3+4). Had tissue samples sent to s Hopkins for reevaluation and they gave me a 6 (3+3). June 2, 2009-PSA test result was 1.85 (was on Avodart- number is " doubled " to 3.75) July 17,2009 -Had TUNA (Transurethral Needle Ablation-for BPH symptoms) procedure on 7/17/09. My Doctor told me to discontinue Avodart 2 weeks thereafter. Sept 24, 2009-PSA test result was 0.79 . M.D. says it's due to the TUNA procedure and resulting diminution of Prostate size. September 29, 2009-Met with Urologist.-He did a DRE and " found nothing " . Had long discussion and he is " prone " to me getting IMRT (preceded by 6 months on Lupron). I am not " prone " to getting anything done yet, especially after the negative DRE. My reading of the amount of overtreatment in this field has had it's effect on me not to mention the serious sequallae following types of " treatments " to the point where I would proceed with an intervention only if there was compelling evidence that my cancer was " gaining " . I am in a kind of a " limbo " because the fact that I have " cancer " doesn't freak me out enough to get treatment just to placate my mind and am also taken by how many times I've read that most men die " with " Prostate Cancer but not " because of " Prostate Cancer. I then asked him if there are any other diagnostic tests that might be useful, like doing a CAT scan and regular MRI as I had done when initially diagnosed 2 years ago. He said to get the Transrectal MRI of the Prostate October 9, 2009- Had Transrectal MRI of the Prostate done October 12, 2009-Just had the results faxed to me: IMPRESSION: 1) " There is obscuration of the fat planes lateral to the central gland and the peripheral zone on the right side near the apex of the gland suspicious for capsular invasion. There is also suspicion for neurovascular bundle invasion on the right and several areas of probable tumor seen within the peripheral zone as described. 2) Increased thickening of the walls of the seminal vesicles which could be either inflammatory or neoplastic invasion. 3) No definite evidence of pelvic or inguinal adenopathy or any gross bony metastasis identified in the lumbar spine. There are degenerative changes in the lumbar spine. DISCUSSION: History: Prostate Cancer Comparison: None Multi planar MRI of the Pelvis was obtained on a 1.5 Tesla GE MRI Scanner. There is thickening in the walls of the seminal vesicles seen on the T2 weighted views which is non-specific and could be inflammatory or neoplastic. I cannot exclude invasion of the seminal vesicles. There is also some bulging of the prostatic capsule on the right with soft tissue in the region of the neurovascular bundle very suggestive of invasion. There is irregularity seen along the peripheral zone on the right near the apex of the gland extending laterally towards the central gland and beyond this with obscuration of fat planes. This is also very suggestive of invasion. There are also foci on the T2 weighted views just to the left of the midline which is rounded measuring 6mm. in size on series 600, image 16 as well as some areas of low signal intensity in the peripheral zone on the left in the mid portion of the gland seen on series 600, image 14. Views through the bones show degenerative changes in the lower lumbar spine without any gross destructive process. END OF REPORT I guess I am asking for feedback from those who have familiarity with the findings and their significance. They don't sound too great to me especially the insinuations by the Radiologist which he characterizes as " suggestive of invasion " or similar. For 2+ years I have been " sitting on the fence " so to speak inasmuch as my other " factors " such as PSA, DRE and Gleason Score were not suggestive of a fast growing and aggressive cancer. I chose this course because of all that I had read about the large amount of overtreatment for PCA as well as the not uncommon nasty after-effects of radiation and/or surgery. As mentioned previously , I had quarterly PSA readings taken and met with my Urologist every few months to get a DRE and to talk about options. I do trust and have faith in him but at the same time am very aware of the lack of consensus on many issues having to do with this disease and how to best approach the treatment strategy. The fact that so many men die " with " Prostate Cancer and not " of " Prostate Cancer has has also been a part on my decision making. In addition, because I have an enlarged Prostate anyway I would have to be put on ADT (Androgen Deprivation Therapy, in my case Lupron) in order to shrink the Prostate down to size regardless of whatever subsequent treatment I ultimately may have done. The possibly very unpleasant side-effects of a drug like Lupron has also played a role in my decision making. Obviously I'd like to hold off on any intervention as long as I can without jeopardizing myself in the process but realize that there is a " tipping point " where a difficult decision has to be made about getting treatment and what type to get. For example, choosing between traditional Radical Prostatectectomy and the DaVinci Robotic surgery might be one such decision. My Urologist has a reputation as a very skilled surgeon but does not perform the robotic procedure. He told me that he would refer me to a well regarded surgeon who has done many hundreds of the robotic procedures. From what I've read, studies don't indicate any advantage to the DaVinci procedure as it pertains to post-op longevity (in controlled studies that compare patients based upon their PCA numbers like PSA, Gleason score etc..) but do indicate that there might be less discomfort and pain post-op because of the elimination of the need for a very large incision as in traditional RP. On the other hand, there seem to be some issues with the lessened view of the surgical field because of the nature of the robotic procedure. Pros & cons on both sides of this and other issues. I apologize for rambling on but I am trying to rationally determine if I can continue with my " active surveillance " or have my Transrectal MRI results become the " tipping point " I referred to earlier. I will of course be speaking to my Urologist at length next week but because this Group has been so helpful and enlightening to me over the last few years i would appreciate any and all comments and feedback in helping me to make my decision. October 20-2009- My Urologist advised me that because of the Prostate size reduction from taking Avodart as well as having the TUNA procedure done last summer, I am now an appropriate candidate for Brachytherapy without having to be put on a regimen of Lupron (ADT). Went to Radiation Oncologist who evaluated the situation and performed Ultrasound to assess placement of Radioactive Palladium seeds. January 12,2010, -Had about 70 Radioactive Palladium seeds implanted. Procedure is quite easy. Some annoyances afterwards (urgency/difficulty voiding) but is getting better after increasing dosage of Flomax. Will be having 25 low dose EBRT treatments in March. So far so good. Sy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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