Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Darryl, I have good experience of Vitamin D - I feel it slowed down progression for a couple of years Vit D from Dr Geo Espinoza Here's a pretty good write-up on Vit D from Malecare advisor, Dr. Geo Espinoza http://drgeo.com/vitamin-d-report During the last twelve years of Malecare prostate cancer support groups, we've seen the efficacy of various vitamins and supplements come and go. What do you think about this?Darryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Darryl, I have good experience of Vitamin D - I feel it slowed down progression for a couple of years Vit D from Dr Geo Espinoza Here's a pretty good write-up on Vit D from Malecare advisor, Dr. Geo Espinoza http://drgeo.com/vitamin-d-report During the last twelve years of Malecare prostate cancer support groups, we've seen the efficacy of various vitamins and supplements come and go. What do you think about this?Darryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 A friend of mine wqas diagnosed with PCa last week. I don't know the Gleason score, but he already has bone mets. Anyone had a similar situation and found a successful treatment? Thanks, Doug > > Here's a pretty good write-up on Vit D from Malecare advisor, Dr. Geo Espinoza http://drgeo.com/vitamin-d-report > During the last twelve years of Malecare prostate cancer support groups, we've seen the efficacy of various vitamins and supplements come and go. What do you think about this? > Darryl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 A friend of mine wqas diagnosed with PCa last week. I don't know the Gleason score, but he already has bone mets. Anyone had a similar situation and found a successful treatment? Thanks, Doug > > Here's a pretty good write-up on Vit D from Malecare advisor, Dr. Geo Espinoza http://drgeo.com/vitamin-d-report > During the last twelve years of Malecare prostate cancer support groups, we've seen the efficacy of various vitamins and supplements come and go. What do you think about this? > Darryl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 What do I think of Dr. Espinoza's article ? I think the good doctor has missed the most important point that is driving the 'dosing issue' and causing such confusion amongst vitamin D users who range from the young and fit to the aged and weary. In a nutshell, the dosing issue (i.e. " how much vit D / calcium should I be taking? " ) depends on absorption and biological utilisation. These in turn depend on your 'anabolic status' which is a function of how much androgen there is in your system (for a man). If you have near-zero androgen then your anabolic status will be low: you will be unable to build or maintain muscle mass, and bone turnover will tend towards loss; your immune system will be poor and you will probably need a 'flu-jab' and antibiotics if you get an infection. Vitamin D (and calcium) will address some of these issues associated with low anabolic status, but you need to take much, much more than you would ordinarily. Vitamin D doses of 10kIU / day are not unheard of for men and women on hormone blockade, who have low anabolic status due to the effects of castration therapy (zoladex, lupron et.). Basically, keep upping the dose until the desired effect is obtained. I stopped at 10kIU the last time I was on reversible chemical castration therapy. At that dose I found I was less susceptible to winter colds and 'flu. My mistake, when I came off treatment was to continue the dose and fail to monitor calcium levels - well at least for a while. As anabolic status improves with increasing levels of androgen (estrogen in the case of women) there is more efficient utilisation of vitamin D and hence less need to supplement at the higher doses. Of course, this also applies to the young and fit - they do not need such high doses. Although I do agree with the SUNARC lobby and those trying to get the minimum dose increased from the current 400 IU / day to something more realistic for those whose lifestyles or place of abode means they do not get a good daily dose of 'God's own vit D' - sunlight ! http://www.sunarc.org/ No-one has done a controlled study of the relationship between anabolic status and vitamin D utilisation, the information is just something I have gleaned from my long experience managing and surviving this illness with a decent quality of life as the main objective. However, feel free to send me a copy of the text of this paper : Nat Rev Urol. 2010 Oct;7(10):532. Androgens and vitamin D levels. Fenner A. Comment on: Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 2010 Aug;73(2):243-8. PMID: 20949650 -- Sam. For your delectation and edification:- http://poetryfromtheprostrateyears.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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