Re: Imus, treatment

[Guest guest]

He certainly does seem to

be going 'holistic' - see http://stage4cancercure.blogspot.com/2009/06/don-imuss-prostate-cancer-progr

ess.html and it seems he

is being treated by Emanuel Revici, M.D. - see http://www.thedoctorwhocurescancer.com/ and

http://www.quackwatch.com/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1 & query=Emanuel+Revici

Some confusion apparently

in the details of his diagnosis - I haven't bothered to go into it but was

'stage II' when he was diagnosed, now referred to as Stage 4 and extremely

aggressive at Gleason 7.

I'm sure the folks at

s Hopkins will be pleased to see such a ringing endorsement of PCA3 testing

<snip> ....which is far more accurate than a regular PSA blood test.....

<snip>

All the best

Terry Herbert

I have no medical

qualifications but I was diagnosed in ‘96: and have learned a bit since

then.

My sites are at www.yananow.net and www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za

Dr

“Snuffy” Myers : " As a physician, I am painfully aware that most of

the decisions we make with regard to prostate cancer are made with inadequate

data "

From: ProstateCancerSupport

[mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of xenophonami

Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010

4:18 PM

To:

ProstateCancerSupport

Subject:

Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an

" assholistic " approach.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/01/king-on-a-senate-run-prostate.html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach

with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there

was some question as to what he chose for treatment.

--

Emerson www. flhw. org

[Guest guest]

When I worked in oncology in New York in the 80s, Revici had a very bad

reputation. I no longer recall the details, just that the docs thought he was,

if not a quack, something close to one.

http://www.nydailyn

<http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/01/king-on-a-senate-run

-prostate. html ews.

com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/01/king-on-a-senate-run-prostate. html According to

this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm

only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question

as to what he chose for treatment.

-- Emerson www. flhw. org

[Guest guest]

Hi Randall,

I think we have had many posts from you saying that you are virtually cured of your prostate cancer by following your diet based 'cure', but despite several requests by myself, Dyer , Dave and others you have never given us your statistics at diagnosis , which I think according to your previous posts was 21 years ago. What was your PSA level 21 years ago? What was your Gleason score 21 years ago as established by your biopsy 21 years ago? What was your tumour staging at time of diagnosis? How many cores of your biopsy sample were positive, and at what percentage, for cancer? I am genuinely interested as the quotes taken from your last e-mail listed below lead me to believe that I personally should give up on my conventional Oncologist driven treatment and rely solely on a diet driven 'cure' regime.

Dave I to am saddened for the men who went on the Holistic approach just a bit to (sic) late, and have died from there (sic) cancer

All of us, the ones Ive talk (sic) to on holistic approach, seem to be doing find (sic) now.

Best of health,

Chris.Malaga,Spain

Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an "assholistic" approach.http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

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[Guest guest]

So I am sorry guys but I would to find out his wholistic. I like you am skeptical and I want to survive.

So let know where I find out and evaluatefor myself.

So no one is interested in pushing research on th f77 antigen asap?

Tom W.

To: ProstateCancerSupport Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 7:52:08 AMSubject: Re: Re: Imus, treatment

Hi Randall,

I think we have had many posts from you saying that you are virtually cured of your prostate cancer by following your diet based 'cure', but despite several requests by myself, Dyer , Dave and others you have never given us your statistics at diagnosis , which I think according to your previous posts was 21 years ago. What was your PSA level 21 years ago? What was your Gleason score 21 years ago as established by your biopsy 21 years ago? What was your tumour staging at time of diagnosis? How many cores of your biopsy sample were positive, and at what percentage, for cancer? I am genuinely interested as the quotes taken from your last e-mail listed below lead me to believe that I personally should give up on my conventional Oncologist driven treatment and rely solely on a diet driven 'cure' regime.

Dave I to am saddened for the men who went on the Holistic approach just a bit to (sic) late, and have died from there (sic) cancer

All of us, the ones Ive talk (sic) to on holistic approach, seem to be doing find (sic) now.

Best of health,

Chris.Malaga, Spain

[ProstateCancerSupp ort] Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an "assholistic" approach.http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

[Guest guest]



Tom.

Scientists have been tinkering with F77 antibodies for over 25 years with no certain results. If it did turn into something of value it would take many more years to bring it to market. It is still one of those "pie in the sky" treatments that are still unproven in humans.

Read; http://tinyurl.com/yhy8g2d

I wish it were not so;

"Il faut d'abord durer" Hemingway

[ProstateCancerSupp ort] Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an "assholistic" approach.http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

[Guest guest]



Thank you for the information Randall. Having the info gives a better understanding of your situation when reading your posts. I hope your diet based regime continues to work for you. Am I correct in saying you are not on hormone therapy at all? Has your Doctor ever suggested it? I ask because it is something I want to avoid even if my Oncologist suggests it in the future.

Best of health,

Spain.

[ProstateCancerSupp ort] Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an "assholistic" approach.http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

[Guest guest]

my uro told me there is no such thing as a cure from cancer so I'm not cured I don't know what you mean by despite several requests by myself, Dyer , Dave and others you have never given us your statistics at diagnosis , which I think according to your previous posts was 21 years ago. I never seen any post asking for this information, but I have posted this information a few times but here so here it is a gain,

I have know I have cancer 17 years not 21years. In 2008 my uro told me because my prostrate cancer was out side the prostrate and was into my rids and my lower back he said I was at stage 111, I don't know why he said this or what staging means.

17 years ago, I found it almost impossible to pee my doctor did a rectal exam told me my prostate was lumpy and swollen. he sent me for a PSA test come back a psa of 4 told me any psa of 4 and above is usuly cancer he put me on an antibiotics and give me a percripion for saw palmetto for 16 years I had a pain in my penis that would not go away where I lived there was no prostate biopsy covered by my medical and the PSA test had only just come in, I had CFS so I was seeing my doctor quite a lot, he keep asking me to get the psa test done. so I did twice a year. For 15 years my PSA range from a psa of from 3 to 4 back down to 3 most times they were around 4 mark be cause I also had mild BHP my doctor In 2007 talked me into getting a Prostate Biopsy done I cant remember the results but I remember it come back positive for cancer.. I'm seeing my doctor in two weeks

so Ill post them to you then.

In dec 2007 my Psa was 13.8 an ultra sound found my prostrate was pushing in to my bladder and a bone scan found the start of prostate bone metastasis in my lower back and my ribs, I remember my doctor saying he had another patient who had cancer in the same place, the patient had roll over in bed, and had a vertebral fracture to his spine, A bone scan a year later found I had no prostate bone mets. My naturopath has just told me, my main treatment amongst the diet, and the other stuff I take is, the vitamin B17 found in the 30 aprecot pits I grind up, with a table spoon of flack seeds, that I mixted in to a glass of cold milk , and taken with zinc, and a 1000 mg of the pinapple enzime bromelain, every morning. It work well cheers Ray

To: ProstateCancerSupport Sent: Fri, 8 January, 2010 11:52:08 PMSubject: Re: Re: Imus, treatment

Hi Randall,

I think we have had many posts from you saying that you are virtually cured of your prostate cancer by following your diet based 'cure', but despite several requests by myself, Dyer , Dave and others you have never given us your statistics at diagnosis , which I think according to your previous posts was 21 years ago. What was your PSA level 21 years ago? What was your Gleason score 21 years ago as established by your biopsy 21 years ago? What was your tumour staging at time of diagnosis? How many cores of your biopsy sample were positive, and at what percentage, for cancer? I am genuinely interested as the quotes taken from your last e-mail listed below lead me to believe that I personally should give up on my conventional Oncologist driven treatment and rely solely on a diet driven 'cure' regime.

Dave I to am saddened for the men who went on the Holistic approach just a bit to (sic) late, and have died from there (sic) cancer

All of us, the ones Ive talk (sic) to on holistic approach, seem to be doing find (sic) now.

Best of health,

Chris.Malaga, Spain

[ProstateCancerSupp ort] Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an "assholistic" approach.http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

[Guest guest]

Randall, it is difficult to evaluate your story. First of all, if you did not

have a biopsy 17 years ago, it is hard to say that you had cancer then. If you

have your prostate, a PSA between 4 and 10 is considered equivocal. It may or

may not be cancer and needs other tests to confirm if it is cancer. If the

doctor gave you antibiotics and sent you away, he probably didn't think you had

cancer, but probably bacterial prostatitis, an infection of the prostate.

If you didn't have a biopsy until two years ago, it is impossible to be sure how

long you have actually had a diagnosable cancer. There is no stage 111, but

there is such a thing as T1N1M1, which fits your description. Lots of things

influence prostate cancer, including hormone levels, so again it is hard to say

what makes these cancers retreat in any one person, but they do sometimes

without any kind of treatment.

B-17 is an airplane, not a vitamin. What you are getting from your apricot pits

is a substance called amygdalin. No vitamin expert has ever called it a vitamin

- it was promoted as a vitamin to try and get around the FDA. Amygdalin releases

cyanide. It has been tested as a cancer cure since it was discovered about 150

years ago, and has never cured cancer in any controlled trial. The evidence that

it does anything for cancer is almost but not quite zero, so who knows? Maybe it

is working for you. I think it more likely that your hormone levels have dropped

as you have gotten older. Possibly your immune system has targeted the cancer.

It has happened rarely. Maybe the genetics of your cancer has made it vulnerable

to something we can't begin to guess at. Again, a vanishingly long shot, but not

beyond imagining.

However unlikely I think that your treatment is doing anything for you, DON'T

STOP. If you are the one in a billion that might be benefiting from it, keep

right on. If it gives you hope, keep on. Just don't close your mind to the

possibility that something else is happening or that you might need conventional

treatment down the line, and then don't put it off until it's too late.

Also, I would not advise anyone else reading this to follow Randall's path.

There is no proven value in treating any cancer in anything that Randall is

doing, and there certainly can be harm. See a physician, not a homeopath,

naturopath or anyone of that ilk.

http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king-

on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with

his PCa. I'm only providing because I know when he first went public there was

some question as to what he chose for treatment.

-- Emerson www. flhw. org

[Guest guest]

I believe Randall means T3, which is locally advanced prostate cancer, which is what I have. When I was diagnosed in 2005 my Doctor with more initials after his name than the alphabet said to me since it was so advanced I must have had prostate cancer for 12 years without knowing about it. And lastly we both use alternative treatment with great success.

Dan

Subject: Re: Imus, treatmentTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 2:21 PM

Randall, it is difficult to evaluate your story. First of all, if you did not have a biopsy 17 years ago, it is hard to say that you had cancer then. If you have your prostate, a PSA between 4 and 10 is considered equivocal. It may or may not be cancer and needs other tests to confirm if it is cancer. If the doctor gave you antibiotics and sent you away, he probably didn't think you had cancer, but probably bacterial prostatitis, an infection of the prostate.If you didn't have a biopsy until two years ago, it is impossible to be sure how long you have actually had a diagnosable cancer.. There is no stage 111, but there is such a thing as T1N1M1, which fits your description. Lots of things influence prostate cancer, including hormone levels, so again it is hard to say what makes these cancers retreat in any one person, but they do sometimes without any kind of treatment.B-17 is an airplane, not a vitamin. What you are getting from your apricot

pits is a substance called amygdalin. No vitamin expert has ever called it a vitamin - it was promoted as a vitamin to try and get around the FDA. Amygdalin releases cyanide. It has been tested as a cancer cure since it was discovered about 150 years ago, and has never cured cancer in any controlled trial. The evidence that it does anything for cancer is almost but not quite zero, so who knows? Maybe it is working for you. I think it more likely that your hormone levels have dropped as you have gotten older. Possibly your immune system has targeted the cancer. It has happened rarely. Maybe the genetics of your cancer has made it vulnerable to something we can't begin to guess at. Again, a vanishingly long shot, but not beyond imagining.However unlikely I think that your treatment is doing anything for you, DON'T STOP. If you are the one in a billion that might be benefiting from it, keep right on. If it gives you hope, keep on. Just don't close your

mind to the possibility that something else is happening or that you might need conventional treatment down the line, and then don't put it off until it's too late.Also, I would not advise anyone else reading this to follow Randall's path. There is no proven value in treating any cancer in anything that Randall is doing, and there certainly can be harm. See a physician, not a homeopath, naturopath or anyone of that ilk. http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. htmlAccording to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing because I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

[Guest guest]

I did not have the opinion of hormone therapy.

My Doctor did not suggested hormone therapy as at the time I had a heart problem and with hormone therapy there is a risk factors for heart disease but what Im on is working so well I don't think I need any think else all tthe best Ray

To: ProstateCancerSupport Sent: Sat, 9 January, 2010 2:10:25 PMSubject: Re: Re: Imus, treatment

 Thank you for the information Randall. Having the info gives a better understanding of your situation when reading your posts. I hope your diet based regime continues to work for you. Am I correct in saying you are not on hormone therapy at all? Has your Doctor ever suggested it? I ask because it is something I want to avoid even if my Oncologist suggests it in the future.

Best of health,

Spain.

[ProstateCancerSupp ort] Re: Imus, treatment

Given that it's Imus, he's probably taking an "assholistic" approach.http://www.nydailyn ews.com/blogs/ dailypolitics/ 2010/01/king- on-a-senate- run-prostate. html

According to this story it appears Don Imus is taking a 'holistic' approach with his PCa. I'm only providing becasue I know when he first went public there was some question as to what he chose for treatment.-- Emerson www. flhw. org

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.

See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now.