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Snow,

Chicken plucking was my job. I didn't mind that so much, but I REFUSED to

clean them. My brother and my dad milked the cows and goats. The cream on

top was 6 inches thick on a gallon of milk. Real butter and whip cream were

regular parts of our diet. That's why I can't figure out where I got

osteoporosis from. I've never taken steroids, and was brought up on milk,

and lots of it!!! I only had the smaller animals to tend to.

Yes Snow, that really was a different time. Sometimes it seems it really

wasn't me.

a

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> Michele.......could the vioxx cause the swelling in my legs,feet,hands

> and I do mean swelling??? Nice to know someone remembers the out houses

> from child hood. If you stayed on the farm then you must remember the

> chickend being plucked...and the milk from the cows. What a time :).

> Thanx ,

> SNOW

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> well today is day two of the juice and water thing and i an about

to

> start the hulda clark recipy.. i will keep you posted on the

> outcome....

>

> dan

> hudson valley.ny

i didnt think that there would be that many...small but alot ..

fell a little better i will give it a couple ov days and see from

their...

that mix was nasty but so far worth it..

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Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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The reason I asked is that I take Naproxen 500 mg. I can't say it's

doing a lot of good though. The doctor also has me on Prednisone

20 mgs and Darvocett 100 mg when needed. I still feel pain. I'm

not going to a Rheumy yet but a DO.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's

doing to good. I've been on it more than five years.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your pain isn't caused by inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too. Most people who have RA have a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works wonders for me - one, twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the inflammation-caused pain(my lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I can definitely tell the difference if I don't take it.

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Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's

doing to good. I've been on it more than five years.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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From: NELLIESTAR@...

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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The lower back and hip are where most of my pain is. Sometimes

I can hardly walk.

Joyce

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 PM

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It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your pain isn't caused by inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too. Most people who have RA have a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works wonders for me - one, twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the inflammation-caused pain(my lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I can definitely tell the difference if I don't take it.

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's

doing to good. I've been on it more than five years.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

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In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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My lower back isn't RA, though. My hips are, but there's also some osteoarthritis there and that's probably what continues to hurt.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:27 PM

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The lower back and hip are where most of my pain is. Sometimes

I can hardly walk.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your pain isn't caused by inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too. Most people who have RA have a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works wonders for me - one, twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the inflammation-caused pain(my lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I can definitely tell the difference if I don't take it.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's

doing to good. I've been on it more than five years.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

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In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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My PRP prescribed 500mg naproxen before I went to the rheumy. I asked my rhuemy

if it was the same thing as otc aleve except for the strength. I told him I

could get generic otc naproxen much cheaper than the prescription, and that I

had no prescription insurance coverage. He told me I could take two 220mg otc

naproxen instead of the 500mg prescription and it would work just as well.

Sharon

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APO-Naproxen, Naprosyn, Aleve ARE NOT THE SAME. If you have taken these drugs over the years you will know what I am talking about. The generics do not work... at least in my case and the name brands are ok. I use the enteric coated Naprosyn-E, which I find works not too bad.

Aleve contains naproxen sodium, but is not the same as taking name brand Naprosyn or Naprosyn E. If you find that your Aleve or generic Naproxen is not working... talk to your doctor about taking Naproxyn, but be prepared to pay more for it.

>From: "Joyce McCrary" <j.mccrary@...> >Reply-Rheumatoid Arthritis ><Rheumatoid Arthritis > >Subject: Re: Re: Hello all >Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:19:36 -0500 > >The reason I asked is that I take Naproxen 500 mg. I can't say it's >doing a lot of good though. The doctor also has me on Prednisone >20 mgs and Darvocett 100 mg when needed. I still feel pain. I'm >not going to a Rheumy yet but a DO. > >Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hasenstab > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Hello all > > > Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce McCrary > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Hello all > > > Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: NELLIESTAR@... > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Hello all > > > In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes: > > > Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco. > > > > Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it. > We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin. > Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months! > He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs. > After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve. > He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal. > Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)! > Pris > > > > Does your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience? > Or bored and wanting to learn tricks? > "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book > www.valentinesperformingpigs.com > > > >

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I have taken both, and the generic works just fine for me. Naprosyn did not seem to have much of an effect, but I took it about five years ago for a year or so. Now I take the generic naproxen and it works well.

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:57 PM

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APO-Naproxen, Naprosyn, Aleve ARE NOT THE SAME. If you have taken these drugs over the years you will know what I am talking about. The generics do not work... at least in my case and the name brands are ok. I use the enteric coated Naprosyn-E, which I find works not too bad.

Aleve contains naproxen sodium, but is not the same as taking name brand Naprosyn or Naprosyn E. If you find that your Aleve or generic Naproxen is not working... talk to your doctor about taking Naproxyn, but be prepared to pay more for it.

>From: "Joyce McCrary" <j.mccrary@...> >Reply-Rheumatoid Arthritis ><Rheumatoid Arthritis > >Subject: Re: Re: Hello all >Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:19:36 -0500 > >The reason I asked is that I take Naproxen 500 mg. I can't say it's >doing a lot of good though. The doctor also has me on Prednisone >20 mgs and Darvocett 100 mg when needed. I still feel pain. I'm >not going to a Rheumy yet but a DO. > >Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hasenstab > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Hello all > > > Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce McCrary > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Hello all > > > Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: NELLIESTAR@... > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: Re: Hello all > > > In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes: > > > Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco. > > > > Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it. > We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin. > Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months! > He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs. > After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve. > He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal. > Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)! > Pris > > > > Does your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience? > Or bored and wanting to learn tricks? > "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book > www.valentinesperformingpigs.com > > > >

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The prescription I had was for 500mg generic naproxen sodium, not naprosyn. I

am taking 440mg otc generic naproxen sodium now and see no difference. They

both seem to work well for me.

Sharon

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Joyce,

Get to a rheumy. Several years ago my PCP daignosed me with RA. I asked for a referral to a rheumatologist. He said that he thought he could manage my case. I insisted, so he complied. About 5 years later he told that I had been right to insist on the referral because he would not have treated me as aggressively. I have severe RA with joint damage but my rheumy has been able to control the disease process sufficiently that I have not had to have any joint replacement.

Pat

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From: Joyce McCrary

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:19 PM

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The reason I asked is that I take Naproxen 500 mg. I can't say it's

doing a lot of good though. The doctor also has me on Prednisone

20 mgs and Darvocett 100 mg when needed. I still feel pain. I'm

not going to a Rheumy yet but a DO.

Joyce

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From: Hasenstab

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

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Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

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In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months!He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve.He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal.Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)!PrisDoes your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?"Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" bookwww.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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Just wanted to tell everyone I go to my first Rheumy appt. on Monday

@ 1:30pm. I am getting anxious. I need some relief from this pain.

I think this is what is contributing to my depression. Which has

been real bad lately. Lost interest in just about everything. I

have to make myself get on the pc and check my email and post

messages. I have to make myself pick up the phone to return calls

from friends. My house work is gone down hill and you know what I do

not give a damn. (Sorry) That is just how I am really feeling now.

I find myself fussing with my kids over nothing. I get angry about

nothing. I keep a terrible migraine. Which actually with the RA

flare up in my neck that causes severe neck pain, which causes a

headache then turns into a migraine. I do not know what to do

anymore.

Anita

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Chronic pain is difficult to deal with and definitely takes an emotional toll as well.

I would sit down with the family and explain why you are so frustrated, apologize for being so on edge and ask for their help and understanding while you try to get things on an even keel.

Kids can be surprisingly understanding and helpful.

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-----Original Message-----From: coolcat102271 [mailto:coolcat1022@...]Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 23:17Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: hello allJust wanted to tell everyone I go to my first Rheumy appt. on Monday @ 1:30pm. I am getting anxious. I need some relief from this pain. I think this is what is contributing to my depression. Which has been real bad lately. Lost interest in just about everything. I have to make myself get on the pc and check my email and post messages. I have to make myself pick up the phone to return calls from friends. My house work is gone down hill and you know what I do not give a damn. (Sorry) That is just how I am really feeling now. I find myself fussing with my kids over nothing. I get angry about nothing. I keep a terrible migraine. Which actually with the RA flare up in my neck that causes severe neck pain, which causes a headache then turns into a migraine. I do not know what to do anymore.Anita

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Hi and welcome to the group. Sorry you have a reason for being here. What you

are describing seems pretty common for early RA and for most people it does get

better with good treatment. Many are given Prednisone (a corticosteroid) or a

similar drug for fast relief of the symptoms but it does not slow or stop the

permanent joint damage that often comes with RA and it also has fairly bad side

effects when taken at high doses for long times. It usually does act quickly

compared to most DMARDs (Disease-Modifying Anti-Rheumatic Drugs) because DMARDs

usually take a few months to become very effective. I hope you are able to get

something to make you feel better and ultimately to stop the progression of the

disease. God bless.

>

> From: " coolcat102271 " <coolcat1022@...>

> Date: 2004/10/02 Sat AM 05:17:20 GMT

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Subject: hello all

>

>

Just wanted to tell everyone I go to my first Rheumy appt. on Monday

@ 1:30pm. I am getting anxious. I need some relief from this pain.

I think this is what is contributing to my depression. Which has

been real bad lately. Lost interest in just about everything. I

have to make myself get on the pc and check my email and post

messages. I have to make myself pick up the phone to return calls

from friends. My house work is gone down hill and you know what I do

not give a damn. (Sorry) That is just how I am really feeling now.

I find myself fussing with my kids over nothing. I get angry about

nothing. I keep a terrible migraine. Which actually with the RA

flare up in my neck that causes severe neck pain, which causes a

headache then turns into a migraine. I do not know what to do

anymore.

Anita

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Anita,

Sorry you are having so much pain. I promise that is truly connected

to the depression. If you can ever get a handle on the swelling and

inflammation, maybe you can get some rest and feel better. I remember at my

worse times I was exhausted and could not get any rest because of the pain.

I hope the doc will get you on something to help. I was also on

anti-depressants a short time at first because it was an adjustment for me.

But I did not take them too long. When the meds for the RA started working,

I was better able to cope and start doing my own research and moving on with

my life. Will be thinking of you on Monday.

Kay

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>

> Just wanted to tell everyone I go to my first Rheumy appt. on Monday

> @ 1:30pm. I am getting anxious. I need some relief from this pain.

> I think this is what is contributing to my depression. Which has

> been real bad lately. Lost interest in just about everything. I

> have to make myself get on the pc and check my email and post

> messages. I have to make myself pick up the phone to return calls

> from friends. My house work is gone down hill and you know what I do

> not give a damn. (Sorry) That is just how I am really feeling now.

> I find myself fussing with my kids over nothing. I get angry about

> nothing. I keep a terrible migraine. Which actually with the RA

> flare up in my neck that causes severe neck pain, which causes a

> headache then turns into a migraine. I do not know what to do

> anymore.

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Do you know what the pain in your lower back is caused from?

Joyce

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From: " Hasenstab " <saludo@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:31 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

My lower back isn't RA, though. My hips are, but there's also some

osteoarthritis there and that's probably what continues to hurt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

The lower back and hip are where most of my pain is. Sometimes

I can hardly walk.

Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your pain isn't caused by

inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too. Most people who have RA have

a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works wonders for me - one,

twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the inflammation-caused pain(my

lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I can definitely tell the

difference if I don't take it.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's

doing to good. I've been on it more than five years.

Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is

stronger.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: NELLIESTAR@...

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sbwertz@... writes:

Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve

morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight

hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription

and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco.

Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.

We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin.

Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for

months!

He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs.

After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the

Alleve.

He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more

than a year or two before he is normal.

Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we

had that)!

Pris

Does your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience?

Or bored and wanting to learn tricks?

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Probably heavy lifting, weight, aging in general. It isn't severe pain, but it's there.

----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

,Do you know what the pain in your lower back is caused from?Joyce----- Original Message ----- From: " Hasenstab" <saludo@...><Rheumatoid Arthritis >Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hello allMy lower back isn't RA, though. My hips are, but there's also some osteoarthritis there and that's probably what continues to hurt.----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCraryRheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hello allThe lower back and hip are where most of my pain is. SometimesI can hardly walk.Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasenstab Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your pain isn't caused by inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too. Most people who have RA have a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works wonders for me - one, twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the inflammation-caused pain(my lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I can definitely tell the difference if I don't take it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's doing to good. I've been on it more than five years. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasenstab Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: NELLIESTAR@... Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes: Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco. Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it. We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin. Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months! He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs. After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve. He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal. Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)! Pris Does your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience? Or bored and wanting to learn tricks? "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book www.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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Could it be lumbago? It's all related.

lumbago \Lum*ba"go\, n. [L., fr. lumbus loin. See Lumbar.] (Med.) A rheumatic pain in the loins and the small of the back.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 16:01

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

,Do you know what the pain in your lower back is caused from?Joyce----- Original Message ----- From: " Hasenstab" <saludo@...><Rheumatoid Arthritis >Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hello allMy lower back isn't RA, though. My hips are, but there's also some osteoarthritis there and that's probably what continues to hurt.----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCraryRheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:27 PMSubject: Re: Re: Hello allThe lower back and hip are where most of my pain is. SometimesI can hardly walk.Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasenstab Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your pain isn't caused by inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too. Most people who have RA have a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works wonders for me - one, twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the inflammation-caused pain(my lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I can definitely tell the difference if I don't take it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all Thank you . I am taking Naproxen 500 mg. I don't think it's doing to good. I've been on it more than five years. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasenstab Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all Yes, Naproxen is the generic name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is stronger. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all Naproxen and Aleve is one and the same? Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: NELLIESTAR@... Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello all In a message dated 9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, sbwertz@... writes: Can you take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I could take two every eight hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper than the 500mg prescription and he said it is the same thing. I get the generic form at costco. Be careful. My hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it. We did not know why at the time, but his skin became paper thin. Anything he touched caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for months! He was covered with open sores of his hands and legs. After months of going to various doctors, we found out it was the Alleve. He stopped taking it and was immediately better, but it will take more than a year or two before he is normal. Alleve should not be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we had that)! Pris Does your pig need a brush-up in manners or obedience? Or bored and wanting to learn tricks? "Potbellied Pig Behavior and Training" book www.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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Hi there, I am also part of this group but

don’t post often. I am myself suffering very often and by periods of time

of this lower back pain. Bobbie

-----Original Message-----

From: Joyce McCrary

[mailto:j.mccrary@...]

Sent: 20 octobre 2004 18:02

To:

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Subject: Re:

Re: Hello all

,

Do you know what the pain in your lower back is

caused from?

Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: " Hasenstab "

<saludo@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:31 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

My lower back isn't RA, though. My hips are, but

there's also some

osteoarthritis there and that's probably what

continues to hurt.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Hello all

The lower back and hip are where most of my pain

is. Sometimes

I can hardly walk.

Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 PM

Subject: Re: Re:

Hello all

It's an anti-inflammatory, so possibly your

pain isn't caused by

inflammation. It could be osteoarthritis, too.

Most people who have RA have

a certain amount of osteo also. The Naproxen works

wonders for me - one,

twice a day. Or, I should say it works for the

inflammation-caused pain(my

lower back, hips, etc). I still have pain, but I

can definitely tell the

difference if I don't take it.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:11 PM

Subject: Re: Re:

Hello all

Thank you . I am taking Naproxen

500 mg. I don't think it's

doing to good. I've been on it more

than five years.

Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

To:

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18,

2004 7:06 AM

Subject: Re:

Re: Hello all

Yes, Naproxen is the generic

name. Naprosyn is the prescription and is

stronger.

----- Original Message -----

From: Joyce McCrary

To:

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, September 18,

2004 12:05 AM

Subject: Re:

Re: Hello all

Naproxen and Aleve is one and

the same? Joyce

----- Original

Message -----

From:

NELLIESTAR@...

To:

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday,

September 17, 2004 9:08 PM

Subject: Re:

Re: Hello all

In a message dated

9/17/2004 6:28:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sbwertz@... writes:

Can you

take naproxen (Aleve) My doctor has me taking two aleve

morning and night, and said if the pain got bad I

could take two every eight

hours for a total of six a day. It is cheaper

than the 500mg prescription

and he said it is the same thing. I get the

generic form at costco.

Be careful. My

hubby took Alleve and got a skin disorder from it.

We did not know why

at the time, but his skin became paper thin.

Anything he touched

caused an open bleeding sore that did not heal for

months!

He was covered with

open sores of his hands and legs.

After months of

going to various doctors, we found out it was the

Alleve.

He stopped taking

it and was immediately better, but it will take more

than a year or two before he is normal.

Alleve should not

be long term....without a drs. CLOSE supervision (we

had that)!

Pris

Does your pig need

a brush-up in manners or obedience?

Or bored and

wanting to learn tricks?

" Potbellied

Pig Behavior and Training " book

www.valentinesperformingpigs.com

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Garanimal wrote: well all things havent been going good.

> I went in for my pain shots today, and for the first time thay didnt

> work.

Ardeith writes: Was that an injection in your spine? My dad had injections

in his spine for bad pain in his lower back and hips....and once in a while,

the needle didn't go to exactly the right place and he got no relief. And

then at the next appointment everything worked just fine.......maybe you can

try again?

Garanimal wrote: I dont sleep much the pain is just to bad. and the nights

just drag on and on.

Ardeith writes: Well, we need to find something you can do that will fill

those dragging hours......and entertain your mind. When your body fails on

you, all you have left is your mind, and it needs feeding to keep you from

brooding about the pain. I read a lot - fiction, non-fiction, biographies,

mysteries, science fiction - anything that's words-in-a-row.....I escape

into other worlds and other lives that way. I also do embroidery work, and

listen to audio books as I stitch. I can't walk far, or be on my feet very

long, but I can make beautiful things to use for gifts. If I couldn't do

that, I don't think I'd be interested in sticking around much longer.

Garanimal wrote: Im thinking about stuped thing to end the pain. and with

no one to talk to on the long nights .I have alot of time to think, about

what I cant do any more, how I feel so useless and that Im a burdon on my

faimly.

Ardeith writes: Being in such pain at so young an age is worse, I think,

than it is for me at 63........but we are both better off than

Hawking in that we can communicate with our friends and families fairly

easily.......so, I feed my mind, and create all the beautiful things I can.

Maybe we can come up with something you can do too. I'm usually up very

late at night......we can talk by e-mail....if that would help....

Ardy

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I know the pain that does things to your mind. I have felt that the only thing I look forward to these days is unconsciousness. I live this half life, in too much pain and with so much fatigue. Is life really worth living in this realm. It is a torture. Disintigrating from the inside out. Try a nerve block, get on a super happy pill from your doctor. Disability benefits are great except you cant use them when you are stuck in the house in bed all the time. Being a woman, I have it better damage wise because my estrogen protects me, but it also affects me emotionally and I am too listless to do much of anything. I force myself. That little voice in my head tells me just relax, feel sorry for myself, give up. You are too tired, too exhausted, too sick to do anything. You are a burden. Life has lost most of its meaning. I go to the beach and sit there, remembering that this IS all I get. I look at the blue sky, hear the seagulls swooping above me, grab a handful of sand that smells of salt and briney seaweed. My awareness isnt what it used to be. Reality is different for me and I feel more isolated and removed from it as each day passes. People pass me by, and it all seems to loud and too jarring. They are so full of exhuberance and take their enthusiasm for reality so for granted. I watch them walk away into the distance and I focus on the sound of the water against the rocks. I am like that tide. It sounds like my breathing. In and out. My mind, my body, my soul, hitting against the rocks over and over and over. Then I realize. This is the true rythmn of life. This is what life truly is. Taking one breath after another, one step after another, and go on looking into the distance, with just a glimmer of hope, just another grain of courage, another tear streaming down your cheek filled with sorrow and frustration, but a tear none the less. As long as I can think, I can feel, and as long as I can breathe, I can live. Hugs, Deborah

On 8/22/06, Garanimal <garanimal_2000@...> wrote:

I know I havent been on in a while. are you the ones I dont know yet, Im a 32yr old man with Rheumatoid arthritis ,degenerative disc disease,and spondylolisthesis. well all things havent been going good. I went in for my pain shots today, and for the first time thay didnt work. so now I dont know what the hell to do. and for all of you that helped me , (((THANK YOU )) it looks like Im getting my SSD. I dont sleep much the pain is just to bad. and the nights just drag on and on.

Ive been thinking about just giving up and with the pain the way it is now, Im thinking about stuped thing to end the pain. and with no one to talk to on the long nights .I have alot of time to think, about

what I cant do any more, how I feel so useless and that Im a burdon on my faimly. while that all for now I need to get back to my heating pad.

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Hello there , Well hi there I've got the same concerns as you and and know your pain I use my computer for one thing to make frinds and chat I work on my bog my page get my mind off it have some little porjects to try and take my mind away from it , you say you got your SSD ? may I ask how long it took you I've been denined twice at a year into mine now , My neroloigost told me this morning to have my atterney to call him he had a case worked up for me ,,, he's a great guy he's still trying to avoid surgery for me I have buldgeing and heriated disc on all cervical levels and L5S1 is the one that gives me so much trouble , not to metion the RA , OA and the lung trouble now seems like it just keeps stacking up here but I'm sure things could be worse so try getting your mind on a few other things and see what happens . I'm so sure you'er not a burrdon on your family like you'er thinking familys

love one another and are there for each other , sure they don't allways see eye to eye or get along like they are the happiest of all but when close that can be expected . It doesn't mean anyone is a burden or not liked or causeing exsesse trouble . so just take care and let them help you as they can and you do the same. Garanimal <garanimal_2000@...> wrote: I know I havent been on in a while. are you the ones I dont know yet, Im a 32yr old man with Rheumatoid arthritis ,degenerative disc disease,and spondylolisthesis. well all things havent been going good. I went in for my pain shots today, and for the first time thay didnt work. so now I dont know what the hell to do. and for all of you that helped me , (((THANK YOU )) it looks like Im getting my SSD. I dont sleep much the pain is just to bad. and the nights just drag on and on. Ive been thinking about just giving up and with the pain the way it is now, Im thinking about stuped

thing to end the pain. and with no one to talk to on the long nights .I have alot of time to think, about what I cant do any more, how I feel so useless and that Im a burdon on my faimly. while that all for now I need to get back to my heating pad.

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Hi there,

Sorry to hear you're still in pain and nothing seems to work atm. I do hope you feel better soon and get some better nights sleep.

Luv

Becky

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From: Garanimal

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:33 AM

Subject: hello all

I know I havent been on in a while. are you the ones I dont know yet, Im a 32yr old man with Rheumatoid arthritis ,degenerative disc disease,and spondylolisthesis. well all things havent been going good. I went in for my pain shots today, and for the first time thay didnt work. so now I dont know what the hell to do. and for all of you that helped me , (((THANK YOU )) it looks like Im getting my SSD. I dont sleep much the pain is just to bad. and the nights just drag on and on.Ive been thinking about just giving up and with the pain the way it is now, Im thinking about stuped thing to end the pain. and with no one to talk to on the long nights .I have alot of time to think, about what I cant do any more, how I feel so useless and that Im a burdon on my faimly. while that all for now I need to get back to my heating pad.

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