Guest guest Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Dear Chuck, Greetings! I have been amazed by the attitude of some of the emails I have read. It seems people are not aware of disparity between Black African and people of other races. Black African as much as Black Americans are diagnosed with prostate cancer from the age of 40 +. Well we people from developing countries have always been stereotyped. Even if you are doing something good for your community / society such as doing literacy, advocacy and support on prostate cancer and by doing so contribute in saving lives this is what some friends from developing countries picture you, I quote from Bob email: "Then when you suggest sending money directly to Africa one must keep in mind the 10's of billions dollars of U.S. aid and private donations transferred to such African countries to various causes over the past 3 decades have been siphoned off by generals, war lords, dictators, supreme leaders and the like which have ended up in Swiss and Luxembourg bank vaults. When it comes to charities we are the biggest suckers on the planet". While I can understand the concerns by Bob, Terry and may be many more, one thing I know I am not one of the "generals, war lords, dictators, supreme leaders" and don't have "Swiss and Luxembourg bank vaults". Solution : What I would suggest friends like Bob, Terry and others to "avoid sending money directly to Africa (Tanzania)" why not use this opportunity to organize yourselves to make sure we get end-products. You could organize yourselves for Tanzania 50 Plus Campaign and print Swahili brochures, t-shirts, posters and caps in USA and mail us end products. For those project which needs supervision to make sure no funds is siphoned, send us a staff who will work with us to keep accounts for your trust. I also advice some of you to come to Tanzania to understand the situation. Campaign all over the world are done by living persons - I am 64 in a country where life expectancy is 51. I think its important to understand how life expectancy calculation is done. Life expectancy does not mean that all Tanzanians will die at the age of 51. 2011 Tanzania has a population of 44,484,857. Out of this population 21,914,229 are males. Males who are 40 years and above are 3,406,747. As amongst Black African as much as Black Americans prostate cancer is diagnosed from the age of 40, this data speaks for its self. Today I was invited at the American Embassy. The Embassy has admiration for the campaign. I was given a promise of USD 10,000 to produce Swahili brochure and posters. The meeting was represented by two Embassy official - Honory Alphonce Jerome, Public Diplomacy Program Assistant Email: jeromeha@... and o Quiroz II, PAO US Embassy, . For more information on our campaign visit www.goole.com and search Tanzania 50 Plus Campaigns. I hope I have done some clarification. Let "distrust" not be the enemy of our campaign. "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." That is what Tanzania 50 Plus Campaign is all about! Emmanuel Subject: FW: Re: A blogTo: "'Reverend Canon Emmanuel Kandusi/PC/Tanzania'" Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:17 PM Hello Emmanuel, I trust you are witnessing the email below being posted on the prostatecancersupport@... support list. Apparently there is a bit of distrust on how any donations will be used. Chuck From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Terry HerbertSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:33 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Re: A blog Whoa! Chuck. I never suggested that anyone should donate anything to the World Health Organisation. I certainly wouldn’t even if they accepted donations, which I doubt very much. The median age for death from prostate cancer is over 80 – which means that half the men who die of prostate cancer are over the age of 80. In most countries the median age for diagnosis is in the 70s. The people who contribute to sites like these are alive, not dead, which (among other things) accounts for their younger age The point about mentioning the life expectancy in Tanzania is that very few men live long enough to achieve the median age for diagnosis let alone death from prostate cancer. The medical facilities in Tanzania and in all the so-called Third World countries are appalling. They need all the money they can get to try and improve those, but I’d be very surprised if prostate cancer was one of the top twenty disease for which funds were required. The last figures available from Zimbabwe for example show 148 prostate cancer deaths out of a total male death count of 21585 If you personally know the Bishop who has put this program together and can vouch for him, then I totally withdraw my imputation that not all the funds might make their way to where donors intend them to go. But having lived in countries like Tanzania for very many years, I can assure you that very little of the donated funds are used for what the donors intended. All the best Prostate men need enlightening, not frightening Terry Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and still going strong Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Chuck MaackSent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 12:18 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Re: A blog What are your assurances, Terry, that even the World Health Organization will use donated money to countries such as Tanzania to aid in the citizens of that country to afford treatment for prostate cancer. If the median age you cite is 80, then how come all the people on these support lists appear to be significantly less than 80 years of age? And is it not interesting that you find statistics that life expectancy of men in Tanzania is 51 years of age? That tells much regarding the health of citizens of that nation, and likely as well, the lack of medical knowledge to extend that life expectancy. This organization put together by a church Bishop is certainly not out to “make a buck,†but rather recognized that prostate cancer is not even understood by the government, by much of the medical community, and by the men of that country, and intends to change that as well as help those diagnosed be able to afford, at the very least, an orchiectomy, to attempt to rein in their cancer. Chuck "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." (Chuck) Maack/Prostate Cancer Advocate/Mentor Wichita, Kansas Chapter, Us TOO Biography: http://www.ustoowichita.org/leaders.cfm?content=bio & id=1 Email: maack1@... Chapter Website "Observations": http://www.ustoowichita.org/observations.cfm From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Terry HerbertSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:42 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Re: A blog I get somewhat concerned when there is no data h ow big a problem this is – Tanzania does not submit data to the World Health Organisation – and I see that there is this quote on the blog: “We don’t have statistics on prostate cancer. But from general observations it seems the disease is affecting many people†and that “prostate cancer causes many deaths in the country because of lack of sensitization to the sufferersâ€. Given the median age for prostate cancer death being over 80 years of age and the male life expectancy in Tanzania of 51 years, it seems that donations to an organization like this might be better directed to organizations where there is more certainty that it will be applied for the benefit of men with prostate cancer. All the best Prostate men need enlightening, not frightening Terry Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and still going strong Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:Pr ostateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Prostate CancerSent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 4:05 AMTo: advancedprostatecancer Cc: ProstateCancerSupport; prostatic-diseases-treatmentsSubject: Re: A blog I got this from a blog: FYI: http://udadisi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prevent-prostate-cancer-in-tanzania.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Dear Chuck, I have just come from the post office. Find attached is another support from a local bank. Yesterday an admirer of the campaign visited and he promised to set up a website for the campaign and mantain it. I will inform you when it is set-up! Things are moving! If God is on our side who will conquers us? Emmanuel Subject: FW: Re: A blogTo: "'Reverend Canon Emmanuel Kandusi/PC/Tanzania'" Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:17 PM Hello Emmanuel, I trust you are witnessing the email below being posted on the prostatecancersupport@... support list. Apparently there is a bit of distrust on how any donations will be used. Chuck From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Terry HerbertSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:33 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Re: A blog Whoa! Chuck. I never suggested that anyone should donate anything to the World Health Organisation. I certainly wouldn’t even if they accepted donations, which I doubt very much. The median age for death from prostate cancer is over 80 – which means that half the men who die of prostate cancer are over the age of 80. In most countries the median age for diagnosis is in the 70s. The people who contribute to sites like these are alive, not dead, which (among other things) accounts for their younger age The point about mentioning the life expectancy in Tanzania is that very few men live long enough to achieve the median age for diagnosis let alone death from prostate cancer. The medical facilities in Tanzania and in all the so-called Third World countries are appalling. They need all the money they can get to try and improve those, but I’d be very surprised if prostate cancer was one of the top twenty disease for which funds were required. The last figures available from Zimbabwe for example show 148 prostate cancer deaths out of a total male death count of 21585 If you personally know the Bishop who has put this program together and can vouch for him, then I totally withdraw my imputation that not all the funds might make their way to where donors intend them to go. But having lived in countries like Tanzania for very many years, I can assure you that very little of the donated funds are used for what the donors intended. All the best Prostate men need enlightening, not frightening Terry Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and still going strong Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Chuck MaackSent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 12:18 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Re: A blog What are your assurances, Terry, that even the World Health Organization will use donated money to countries such as Tanzania to aid in the citizens of that country to afford treatment for prostate cancer. If the median age you cite is 80, then how come all the people on these support lists appear to be significantly less than 80 years of age? And is it not interesting that you find statistics that life expectancy of men in Tanzania is 51 years of age? That tells much regarding the health of citizens of that nation, and likely as well, the lack of medical knowledge to extend that life expectancy. This organization put together by a church Bishop is certainly not out to “make a buck,†but rather recognized that prostate cancer is not even understood by the government, by much of the medical community, and by the men of that country, and intends to change that as well as help those diagnosed be able to afford, at the very least, an orchiectomy, to attempt to rein in their cancer. Chuck "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." (Chuck) Maack/Prostate Cancer Advocate/Mentor Wichita, Kansas Chapter, Us TOO Biography: http://www.ustoowichita.org/leaders.cfm?content=bio & id=1 Email: maack1@... Chapter Website "Observations": http://www.ustoowichita.org/observations.cfm From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Terry HerbertSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:42 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Re: A blog I get somewhat concerned when there is no data h ow big a problem this is – Tanzania does not submit data to the World Health Organisation – and I see that there is this quote on the blog: “We don’t have statistics on prostate cancer. But from general observations it seems the disease is affecting many people†and that “prostate cancer causes many deaths in the country because of lack of sensitization to the sufferersâ€. Given the median age for prostate cancer death being over 80 years of age and the male life expectancy in Tanzania of 51 years, it seems that donations to an organization like this might be better directed to organizations where there is more certainty that it will be applied for the benefit of men with prostate cancer. All the best Prostate men need enlightening, not frightening Terry Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and still going strong Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:Pr ostateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Prostate CancerSent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 4:05 AMTo: advancedprostatecancer Cc: ProstateCancerSupport; prostatic-diseases-treatmentsSubject: Re: A blog I got this from a blog: FYI: http://udadisi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prevent-prostate-cancer-in-tanzania.html 1 of 1 File(s) TIB2011.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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