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I'm not sure why this has to be such a good scale. I use a dime store oz

scale. It's just to learn the sizes and weights of foods right? Are you

using it for something where really accurate meas are needed?

regards.

robert.apple@... wrote:

>

> Hello All,

>

> The posts are exciting Greg! Keep them going.

>

> I am moving from stage one of Walford's program--changing food eating

> habits--to stage two. I was dismayed at the price of the kitchen food

> scale that is recommended by Walford. I believe it was an Ohaus #720 or

> something like that.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions for a kitchen food scale that workes well

> and is priced under $40.00 US?

>

> Thankx in advance.

>

> A.

>

>

>

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Hello All,

The posts are exciting Greg! Keep them going.

I am moving from stage one of Walford's program--changing food eating

habits--to stage two. I was dismayed at the price of the kitchen food

scale that is recommended by Walford. I believe it was an Ohaus #720 or

something like that.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a kitchen food scale that workes well

and is priced under $40.00 US?

Thankx in advance.

A.

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I've set up a web site to keep the information easily accessible. There is

a link to it at the bottom of every message. I update it constantly based

on people's questions. One day I will work on better organizing it better,

but there is a lot of information there.

http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/Drugs%20 & %20testing.htm

will take you to the page that explains NSAIDS and DMARDS.

NSAIDS are anti-inflammatorily drugs that treat the symptoms.

DMARDS are prescribed to slow or stop the progression of the disease.

a

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> Hi all,

>

> Could somebody explain what are NSAIDS, DMARDS, etc. The differences and

> what medications fall under each category. I'm confused. Maybe if a nice

> chart of this info were created it could also be kept in the files area

for

> others' reference.

>

> Thanks in advance...

>

> K.

>

> /Celine Kossart

> kozys@...

>

>

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> Web pages for our group: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/

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Hi Newbie,

No sense worrying about what's done. 2lbs a week is not way out anyway;

although its faster than i would recommend. I think most weight loss

programs call for this amount anyway, so it probably isn't too damaging. At

this point make sure you get at least 100% of the RDA's of everything

including protein on your dwidip software. By the way you don't say much

about yourself. Starting weight, ad lib weight etc. This information would

help us to advise you better. Its not exactly a one size fits all

proposition.

Regards,

Mike Colella

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< >

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 1:23 PM

Subject: [ ] Newbie question

> Hi all,

>

> Newbie here; what a great forum! I had planned to lurk a while but

> now I have a concern.

>

> I purchased Dr. Walford's software in May of this year, and

> put some serious effort into cleaning up my act over the summer, but

> did not join this list until today.

>

> I've got a good background in nutrition, but haven't had access to a

> wide variety of CRON-specific info before now.

>

> I just read in the " Files " that to be effective, CRON must be eased

> into slowly, with a weight-loss of no more than one pound per week.

>

> So here's my problem: I really went for it! My weight-loss has

> varied week-to-week of course, but comes out to about 45 pounds in 24

> weeks. Did I ruin it? What do I do now?

>

>

> Thanks so much,

> Lori Ann

>

>

>

>

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> No sense worrying about what's done. 2lbs a week is not way out

> anyway; although its faster than i would recommend. I think most

> weight loss programs call for this amount anyway, so it probably

> isn't too damaging.

That's very reassuring. I certainly 'feel' healthier.

> At this point make sure you get at least 100% of the RDA's of

> everything including protein on your dwidip software.

> Protein's the one thing I'm having a bit of trouble with--the

vitamins and minerals I manage to keep off the charts.

> By the way you don't say much about yourself. Starting weight, ad

> lib weight etc. This information would help us to advise you

> better. Its not exactly a one size fits all proposition.

Hrmm, point taken.

I'm female, mid-thirties, 5'11 " , large frame, ad lib weight used to be

about 175, with quite a bit of muscle mass (lifted weights, rowed

crew, etc.)

I did get down to 155, with no exercise, while living on a strict

vegan diet in China 1988-1989, and felt perfectly healthy, but found

that upon returning to the US, my weight went right back up to the 180

and stayed there, this time without the muscle mass...

Then, a couple years ago, I ballooned up to 225 following an injury

accident and period of inactivity and depression.

In addition to changing my eating habits this year, I've also resumed

moderate physical activity, including aerobic, resistance and

flexibility work.

I thought I must have raised my set-point by now, but maybe not by

much, because I so easily dropped back down to my current 180 lbs.

That's still a BMI of about 25, so I'm not entirely clear what I

should shoot for. Would 155 do it? Was I maybe CRON'ing in China?

BTW my mother, her sister and two of my three sisters, all in the 5'7 "

to 5'9 " range, all weigh over 200.

Based on this history, roughly what weight (as an indication of energy

intake) would you guess is likely to get me the CRON benefits I'm

after?

Thanks again, I really appreciate your help.

Lori Ann

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Newbie,

I too have dropped about 40 pounds since May after starting

Walfords diet (a 5'9 " male, started 210 to 170 lb). About half the weight

was done the first 2 months which is not really out of line according to

the book, the rest was at a rate of 1 lb/week. The weight loss rate never

bothered me since I knew I was getting excess of the RDA's and 10 times the

amount of vitamins A and C each day. I am not concerned about the high

weight loss. Hope this helps a bit.

Joe

At 09:23 PM 11/30/01 +0000, herself@... wrote:

>Hi all,

>

>Newbie here; what a great forum! I had planned to lurk a while but

>now I have a concern.

>

>I purchased Dr. Walford's software in May of this year, and

>put some serious effort into cleaning up my act over the summer, but

>did not join this list until today.

>

>I've got a good background in nutrition, but haven't had access to a

>wide variety of CRON-specific info before now.

>

>I just read in the " Files " that to be effective, CRON must be eased

>into slowly, with a weight-loss of no more than one pound per week.

>

>So here's my problem: I really went for it! My weight-loss has

>varied week-to-week of course, but comes out to about 45 pounds in 24

>weeks. Did I ruin it? What do I do now?

>

>

>Thanks so much,

>Lori Ann

>

>

>

>

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Hi There,

I don't believe weight loss should be simplified by saying a pound a

week works for everyone. You might consider the following when

determining your personal weight loss and ultimate weight goal.

1. Find out what your lean and fat mass is. You can then decide on

how much of you you want to be fat and how much of you you want to be

lean. Some CRONies are willing to loose lean mass (both muscle and

bone) for the sake of life extension and " health " . I personally am

not willing to loose the lean, but each person needs to decide on

what's best for her. Osteoporosis is a very real concern for

stricter CRONies.

2. Consider your age when entering the CRON arena. Walford's older

mice didn't fare well with extreme calorie restriction. Since you

are young this probably is not a big concern.

3. When deciding on your weekly weight loss target, consider first

the percentage of your fat to your total mass. Someone who is obese

with a BMI of 30 and above can probably afford to loose the 2-3

pounds a week, while someone who is closer to 25 should shoot for

that pound to pound and a half. Second, consider where you are at in

your weight loss. The closer you get to your target the slower your

weight loss will be. I like to view weight loss as an exponential

curve. At first the weight loss is relatively rapid. As you reach

your target the weight loss gets smaller and smaller.

4. Finally, when you change your diet you should allow your body time

to adjust. Anything that is too abrupt, whether it be less calories

or introduction/elimination of foods, can be a real jolt to your

body. Go gentle on that ol' bod', it's going to have to last you for

your 100+ years.

-Dana

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> My question here is, Mike refers above to jumping into a

> CR regime fast as possibly not being " too damaging. " What

> is the damage that too-fast weight loss can cause? I'm not

> fearful that I'm having malnutrition, if anything I'm getting

> more nutrition than before since I'm eating lighter and better.

Hi: have you read Dr W's books? When someone questions why losing weight

quickly is bad, I always wonder if they've done any reading, since the

reasons are outlined in: T120yr Diet. According to the research, losing too

fast is not only NOT health enhancing, it is actually DAMAGING to your

health. OTOH, losing quickly in the first couple of months of CR is common

and expected. After that slow is the way you want to go.

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sinikkab wrote

> Hallo Francesca,

> The country is The Netherlands.

Hi Sini: we have many Europens on both lists. But the beauty of cyberspace

is communication with people from all over the world and no matter WHERE

they live. BTW a warm welcome to you. You'll find the list a good

companian even if you don't know any other CRonies in the flesh.

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Yep, I think you have found the right group.

There is no truly accurate diagnostic test for gallstones that is not invasive

(gastroscopic ERCP, surgery, or injected contrast media). Your symptoms

sound all too familiar to me. It's even possible you may have passed a stone

or stones and not even known it. Be assured if that is so, they will be back.

Once you begin your choice of the litany of techniques you will find in past

messages here, and elsewhere, you will not only dissolve or flush stones,

slush and irritants, but you will calm your inflammed gall bladder and bile

ducts. Getting a clean, healthy liver is a nice side benefit. Your body is

talking

to you. My advice is not to wait too long, the body hates being ignored.

Best wishes on the journey,

Will

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> I have had an ultrasound and an abdomen CT scan and both came back

> normal, but I seem to have symptoms of gallstones or gallbladder

> issues.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Hi,

Does anyone on the list have RA and Crohn's disease? And ankylosing spondylitis, fibromyalgia and depression?

I am taking Remicade with self injection of methotrexate which is helping with the crohn's disease (have had for 22 yrs

with two major surgeries) but isn't doing much for my RA. I also take Vioxx for the ankylosing spondylitis as that is another form of arthritis. It helps somewhat. As to the fibromyalgia....nothing for that.

I am tired all the time and have been sleeping more and more. I am receiving medical treatment for the depression which I have had since 1995....was not medically caused....was caused by stress of finances in family.

I hurt like *ell in my fingers, hands, toes, ankles are awful, knees. That is the RA part.

Then I hurt quite often in my spine, neck hips especially and that is the spondylitis part.

Crohn's I treat with Questran for the diarrhea as I had the part of my small intestine that reabsorbs bile removed. I have also had 3 strictures removed and 1 fistula.

My rheumy may want to take me off Remicade and metho since my RA is still so painful but it is really helping the Crohn's, so I am in a big quandry. Can you take Remicade/methotrexate with other RA drugs? I don't want to go off Remicade, etc. because

my Crohn's will come back.

Big mess.....oh, yes, I am 52, married 32 years, 1 son who is 31 and has ankylosing spondylitis also and some signs of Crohn's, two grandsons aged 3 and 5.

Thanks for listening and I hope there is someone out there who might have some of the same things I do, especially Crohn's and RA.

Lathrop

WA

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I have RA but not Crohns or the other things. I started Remicade at 3 mg/kg but didn't get relief until we went up to 6 mg/kg about a year after first starting it. Then I was able to get completely off Prednisone except for special needs. I have been getting Remicade every six weeks but we will be trying to stretch that to eight weeks in the near future. Remicade takes a while to act and may require an increased dose. I'm also on Methotrexate pills and have recently gone from 15 mg to 12.5 mg.

I notice you seem to be from Washington. I'm from Richland so maybe we are neighbors. God bless.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:58 AM

Subject: newbie question

Hi,

Does anyone on the list have RA and Crohn's disease? And ankylosing spondylitis, fibromyalgia and depression?

I am taking Remicade with self injection of methotrexate which is helping with the crohn's disease (have had for 22 yrs

with two major surgeries) but isn't doing much for my RA. I also take Vioxx for the ankylosing spondylitis as that is another form of arthritis. It helps somewhat. As to the fibromyalgia....nothing for that.

I am tired all the time and have been sleeping more and more. I am receiving medical treatment for the depression which I have had since 1995....was not medically caused....was caused by stress of finances in family.

I hurt like *ell in my fingers, hands, toes, ankles are awful, knees. That is the RA part.

Then I hurt quite often in my spine, neck hips especially and that is the spondylitis part.

Crohn's I treat with Questran for the diarrhea as I had the part of my small intestine that reabsorbs bile removed. I have also had 3 strictures removed and 1 fistula.

My rheumy may want to take me off Remicade and metho since my RA is still so painful but it is really helping the Crohn's, so I am in a big quandry. Can you take Remicade/methotrexate with other RA drugs? I don't want to go off Remicade, etc. because

my Crohn's will come back.

Big mess.....oh, yes, I am 52, married 32 years, 1 son who is 31 and has ankylosing spondylitis also and some signs of Crohn's, two grandsons aged 3 and 5.

Thanks for listening and I hope there is someone out there who might have some of the same things I do, especially Crohn's and RA.

Lathrop

WA

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In a message dated 7/20/04 2:00:28 AM, lathrop@... writes:

Thanks for listening and I hope there is someone out there who might have some of the same things I do, especially Crohn's and RA.

Try Humira.

I have a GREAT Rheumy in WA State....

Who is your doctor? I live in Gig Harbor...

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Russ

We got turned off by the unmentionable protocol bvecause every

adverse reaction feeling shocking, many strange heart ailments were

all palmed off as herxheimer reactions.

>

> Hi. About a year ago I figured out that a number of the symptoms

I

> was having (fatigue, mental confusion, sinus problems,

blepharitis)

> were worse on a high-sugar diet and would temporarily clear up on

a

> low-carb diet. This led to self-diagnose of yeast overgrowth as a

> result of 3 years of antibiotic use that I had for acne about 10

> years ago.

>

> In the last year I have continued on anti-candida diet and used

anti-

> fungals (nystatin, diflucan, sporanox) but things only improve

> temporarily and then come back perhaps worse than before. Also I

> have chronic pain in my neck and hips that actually seems to get

> worse when on the diet and drugs.

>

> Recently I discovered the protocol of a researcher that I don't

> think we're allowed to mention in posts, and I am very intrigued

by

> his research and protocal. However, I understand that this group

> was started by folks who have diverged from the theories of that

> researcher.

>

> I am hoping that someone could give me a summary of the main

points

> of disagreement with that researcher. Is there a different

protocol

> or specific changes to his protocol that this group recommends

> following?

>

> Thanks!

>

> - Russ

>

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is there a consensus opinion on an alternative treatment/cure?

thanks,

- Russ

> >

> > Hi. About a year ago I figured out that a number of the

symptoms

> I

> > was having (fatigue, mental confusion, sinus problems,

> blepharitis)

> > were worse on a high-sugar diet and would temporarily clear up

on

> a

> > low-carb diet. This led to self-diagnose of yeast overgrowth as

a

> > result of 3 years of antibiotic use that I had for acne about 10

> > years ago.

> >

> > In the last year I have continued on anti-candida diet and used

> anti-

> > fungals (nystatin, diflucan, sporanox) but things only improve

> > temporarily and then come back perhaps worse than before. Also

I

> > have chronic pain in my neck and hips that actually seems to get

> > worse when on the diet and drugs.

> >

> > Recently I discovered the protocol of a researcher that I don't

> > think we're allowed to mention in posts, and I am very intrigued

> by

> > his research and protocal. However, I understand that this

group

> > was started by folks who have diverged from the theories of that

> > researcher.

> >

> > I am hoping that someone could give me a summary of the main

> points

> > of disagreement with that researcher. Is there a different

> protocol

> > or specific changes to his protocol that this group recommends

> > following?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > - Russ

> >

>

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Russ

ABSOLUTELY. I feel the alternatives like addressing dehydration by

using recoup/high levels of salt and C are the most succesfull and

least harmfull protocols.If you can add a couple of antimicrobials

and possably antiinflammatories your headed in the right direction

IMO.The thing to wrap yourself around is what is needed in your own

CASE.I feel many patoents on these lists are suffering identical

issues as burns patients, you need to get the skin flowing and the

microscirculation back on line, they have just been hammered by the

toxic exposure in many cases. The other key is to get the slime out

of your system and stop feeding it-it's toxic and it just clogs

everything up..

tony

> > >

> > > Hi. About a year ago I figured out that a number of the

> symptoms

> > I

> > > was having (fatigue, mental confusion, sinus problems,

> > blepharitis)

> > > were worse on a high-sugar diet and would temporarily clear up

> on

> > a

> > > low-carb diet. This led to self-diagnose of yeast overgrowth

as

> a

> > > result of 3 years of antibiotic use that I had for acne about

10

> > > years ago.

> > >

> > > In the last year I have continued on anti-candida diet and

used

> > anti-

> > > fungals (nystatin, diflucan, sporanox) but things only improve

> > > temporarily and then come back perhaps worse than before.

Also

> I

> > > have chronic pain in my neck and hips that actually seems to

get

> > > worse when on the diet and drugs.

> > >

> > > Recently I discovered the protocol of a researcher that I

don't

> > > think we're allowed to mention in posts, and I am very

intrigued

> > by

> > > his research and protocal. However, I understand that this

> group

> > > was started by folks who have diverged from the theories of

that

> > > researcher.

> > >

> > > I am hoping that someone could give me a summary of the main

> > points

> > > of disagreement with that researcher. Is there a different

> > protocol

> > > or specific changes to his protocol that this group recommends

> > > following?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > - Russ

> > >

> >

>

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T,

Do you think that large doses of protease would help get the slime

out? If not, maybe other enzymes? What we may need is an enzyme to

target the biofilm (biofilms ?).

> > > >

> > > > Hi. About a year ago I figured out that a number of the

> > symptoms

> > > I

> > > > was having (fatigue, mental confusion, sinus problems,

> > > blepharitis)

> > > > were worse on a high-sugar diet and would temporarily clear

up

> > on

> > > a

> > > > low-carb diet. This led to self-diagnose of yeast overgrowth

> as

> > a

> > > > result of 3 years of antibiotic use that I had for acne about

> 10

> > > > years ago.

> > > >

> > > > In the last year I have continued on anti-candida diet and

> used

> > > anti-

> > > > fungals (nystatin, diflucan, sporanox) but things only

improve

> > > > temporarily and then come back perhaps worse than before.

> Also

> > I

> > > > have chronic pain in my neck and hips that actually seems to

> get

> > > > worse when on the diet and drugs.

> > > >

> > > > Recently I discovered the protocol of a researcher that I

> don't

> > > > think we're allowed to mention in posts, and I am very

> intrigued

> > > by

> > > > his research and protocal. However, I understand that this

> > group

> > > > was started by folks who have diverged from the theories of

> that

> > > > researcher.

> > > >

> > > > I am hoping that someone could give me a summary of the main

> > > points

> > > > of disagreement with that researcher. Is there a different

> > > protocol

> > > > or specific changes to his protocol that this group

recommends

> > > > following?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > - Russ

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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