Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 --- In @y..., " beckymauldin2001 " <beckymauldin@h...> wrote: > Just had to share this... > > > of what we call " brain fuzz " . > > > Becky >> Dennis writes: In the past few months I've experienced a sort of " brain fuzz " . I couldn't describe it as dizziness or lightheadedness and now that you mention " brain fuzz " I wonder if that's what I'm experiencing. In my case it seems related to caffein, soda pop, processed carbs, microwaved raw whole milk to make hot cocoa or SOMETHING. I ain't jumped to eating raw meat yet! Ha Ha. This is entirely self diagnosed. What other descriptors do you have for " brain fuzz " ? I suppose I'll get a physical when I've exhausted all other possibilities. Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Becky -- great news! I gather the liver tonic is described in NT? J. beckymauldin2001 schrieb: > > Just had to share this... > > About 5 months ago, I just had finished a 2 year housebuilding > project that really drained me. I was also part vegetarian during > alot of that time (can you say " stupid " ?). I had begun to implement > NT paritally during that time, but much more fully in the past few > months. Anyway, my energy level a few months ago was close to zero > and the smallest things would wear me out! > > In the past few weeks, I've been eating raw dairy and eggs, and raw > liver tonic with 1/4 cup of liver every day along with lots of > veggies and fruits. And whenever I eat cooked protein, I have it > with a gelatin broth. My digestion has improved alot but my overall > stamina is amazing compared to what it was! I just went on a 3 hour > hike in the woods, socializing with friends the whole time and I feel > great! Normally, I'd be wiped out from a short hike and have a case > of what we call " brain fuzz " . > > Just thought I'd share my happy day, > Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Yup. In the tonic section, it's the one Pottenger used. I've modified it a bit. I use whole canned tomatoes rather than juice or I use fresh ones, maybe 3/4 cup or more, and add 1/4 to 1/2 cup of NT lacto fermented salsa, the lime juice, cayenne, some salt, and about 1/4 cup frozen chunks of pasture fed beef liver. Blend really well. This is very easy for me to drink. As long as everything is pretty cold the liver flavor is overpowered, especially by the salsa flavors. I would have never guessed I could make beef liver edible..... > Becky -- great news! > > I gather the liver tonic is described in NT? > > J. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 Thanks so much for your recipe. Can't wait to try it! beckymauldin2001 schrieb: > > Yup. In the tonic section, it's the one Pottenger used. I've > modified it a bit. I use whole canned tomatoes rather than juice or > I use fresh ones, maybe 3/4 cup or more, and add 1/4 to 1/2 cup of > NT lacto fermented salsa, the lime juice, cayenne, some salt, and > about 1/4 cup frozen chunks of pasture fed beef liver. Blend really > well. This is very easy for me to drink. As long as everything is > pretty cold the liver flavor is overpowered, especially by the salsa > flavors. I would have never guessed I could make beef liver > edible..... > > > > Becky -- great news! > > > > I gather the liver tonic is described in NT? > > > > J. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 Patty: I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better. Good news. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Patty--getting on the right thyroid hormone or right dosage can be a trial and error thing for a lot of people. . .had you been on any thyroid hormone up to this point? Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 Patty, Just to let you know, as I have been treated with thyroid meds for over 6 months now, and unlike other medications that work the day you use them, it takes 2-3 weeks for any change to even show up in your blood work, when being put on thyroid med, or simply adding more dosage. So realy, if it doesn't affect your blood for that amount of time, you won't feel or see any changes, until the body has had time to absorb it, and use it. Give it some time at least three weeks, and you will see differences. (My docs have told me this, and I know through experience now ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Unfortunately, getting thyroid adjusted can seem like a merry-go-round and it doesn't mean the doctor isn't good. It is more difficult, I think, when the thyroid problem is autoimmune as it can get to a point of being both hyper and hypo. Thyroid problems are not the "done deal" we thought they were--and the past few year's revelations to endocrinolgists have them scrambling to try to work the Cytomel into the prescription--that's a fairly new thing to do. I'm sure they are happy when it works for someone right off the bat. Then to top everything off, there is much controversey re the test results and replacement hormone manufacturers--it's truly an area that requires a lot of patience right now. I asked about prior hormone because it takes from 2-6 weeks for thryoid hormone'to start working (mine is 3 weeks to the day) and after it starts, what you are putting in your body daily is not generally what you are using that day--it circulates around in a pool until you need it, then it converts--the converson stuff you need is what the antibodies are attacking--peroxidase. This is true for your regular thyroid hormone but not true for Cytomel--that is used daily--it's direct. If you don't take that one day, you will notice the difference. Are you by any chance taking MSM? Or any of the sulfated things like chondroitin or glucosamine? If not, you might discuss trying the MSM with just the Biothroid and see if that works for you--thryoid hormones work by sulfation and I found that mine really zipped up when I took MSM--it was quite a surprise. Another thing that helps thyroid hormone work effectively is Selenium. You could be low on it and it's real necessary--is an antioxidant. MSM often provides unexpected benefits. As I said, Cytomel didn't work for me--I too had 5 mcgs 2 per day--and I don't even have a thyroid gland anymore. I have a friend who takes 5mcgs a day and it worked perfect for her the first time. It's a crapshoot. There are a number of excellent books on this subject and I think I remember that you mentioned Shoman's thyroid site. If you spend a lot of time at that site, you will probably pick up the fact that everything seems up in the air right now. . .lots of opinions. I personally think it's great that your doc put you on a natural hormone. Is he aware that there is a long-acting Cytomel available also? Found that out from my new alternative doc. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Okay, today I got the Cytomel and took a 5 mcg pill along with a 1 grain Biothroid as my DO suggested, and wouldn't you know I feel like total crap! I mean, this sucks, and I am supposed to take 2 a day. I don't EVEN want to take those second doses. My head is all funny and I feel so sleepy, and a little hot, and just not good. I don't like this. Anyone else have bad feelings from the thyroid hormones? Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Hi Bonnie, Just the Armour thyroid, 1 grain tablets. I actually got those from the Gerson clinic in Mexico, as I pretty much knew that I had some type of thyroid condition going on. I had so many of the hypothyroid symptoms. I believe I was taking two 1 grain tabs a day, then had some testing done and when I called for my results the receptionist told me over the phone that my results indicated I should up my dosage, so I went to 4 tabs a day. Then my first set of tests came in the mail and it actually showed hyperthyroidism from taking the Armour, but also low thyroid! I was confused! So I just quit taking them altogether. I decided to quit screwing around with it and wait for more results. After this second set of tests, the doctor changed my Armour to Biothroid and added the Cytomel. I thought, ahh, finally, I am going to get the correct treatment for this! And what do you know....I feel like total crap. I am not too happy about this, but I still have an appointment to go to an endocrinologist. "THE" guy to see in my town. However, after your letter posted about your experiences with a top dog endocrinologist, I am not too happy and don't know what to think. I don't want on any medical merry go rounds! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Bos@... Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: feeling better Patty--getting on the right thyroid hormone or right dosage can be a trial and error thing for a lot of people. . .had you been on any thyroid hormone up to this point? Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Thanks , I'll try to be patient. However, I read that the T3 has to be taken several times a day because it peaks in the bloodstream after about 2 hours. I have no idea about it at all... I am so new to all of this, so I'll just have to count on you guys to help steer me until I can completely trust these new docs I am seeing! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: JULIEJJPALANCA@... Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: Re: feeling better Patty, Just to let you know, as I have been treated with thyroid meds for over 6 months now, and unlike other medications that work the day you use them, it takes 2-3 weeks for any change to even show up in your blood work, when being put on thyroid med, or simply adding more dosage. So realy, if it doesn't affect your blood for that amount of time, you won't feel or see any changes, until the body has had time to absorb it, and use it. Give it some time at least three weeks, and you will see differences. (My docs have told me this, and I know through experience now ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 thanks Bonnie, my doc is a homeopathic (alternative medicine) doc, so he is into all the new advanced medicine ideas. I'll give this thyroid some more time I guess, and try to add in some more garlic for the sulphur compounds. I've run across thyroid information often in the 4-5years that I have been involved in this issue, but I never really addressed it on a personal level, other than to try to get hold of some Armour thyroid and see what happens. I have stayed away from traditional doctors for the most part, and have seen only naturoathic docs--I've been pretty dedicated to avoiding prescription drugs entirely. I am wondering what this specialist in endocrinology is going to tell me....I tend to go to these docs with a skeptical attitude that they know what the heck they are doing. At this point, I just hope someone can make some sense of this for me, or I am going to just chuck everything again and go back to doing nothing. I felt better then! Thanks again--you're a wealth of information. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Bos@... Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: feeling better Unfortunately, getting thyroid adjusted can seem like a merry-go-round and it doesn't mean the doctor isn't good. It is more difficult, I think, when the thyroid problem is autoimmune as it can get to a point of being both hyper and hypo. Thyroid problems are not the "done deal" we thought they were--and the past few year's revelations to endocrinolgists have them scrambling to try to work the Cytomel into the prescription--that's a fairly new thing to do. I'm sure they are happy when it works for someone right off the bat. Then to top everything off, there is much controversey re the test results and replacement hormone manufacturers--it's truly an area that requires a lot of patience right now. I asked about prior hormone because it takes from 2-6 weeks for thryoid hormone'to start working (mine is 3 weeks to the day) and after it starts, what you are putting in your body daily is not generally what you are using that day--it circulates around in a pool until you need it, then it converts--the converson stuff you need is what the antibodies are attacking--peroxidase. This is true for your regular thyroid hormone but not true for Cytomel--that is used daily--it's direct. If you don't take that one day, you will notice the difference. Are you by any chance taking MSM? Or any of the sulfated things like chondroitin or glucosamine? If not, you might discuss trying the MSM with just the Biothroid and see if that works for you--thryoid hormones work by sulfation and I found that mine really zipped up when I took MSM--it was quite a surprise. Another thing that helps thyroid hormone work effectively is Selenium. You could be low on it and it's real necessary--is an antioxidant. MSM often provides unexpected benefits. As I said, Cytomel didn't work for me--I too had 5 mcgs 2 per day--and I don't even have a thyroid gland anymore. I have a friend who takes 5mcgs a day and it worked perfect for her the first time. It's a crapshoot. There are a number of excellent books on this subject and I think I remember that you mentioned Shoman's thyroid site. If you spend a lot of time at that site, you will probably pick up the fact that everything seems up in the air right now. . .lots of opinions. I personally think it's great that your doc put you on a natural hormone. Is he aware that there is a long-acting Cytomel available also? Found that out from my new alternative doc. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 i went to the doctor yesterday to see what my rash was it was a yeas t infetion got that under control my depressionis getting under control so i guess im doing ok for now just need to get the pain under control then i will be good thanks for listening to me sherrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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