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Hi Theresa,

The best thing I have found when my hands get to hurting so much that

nothing seems to releive it is a parafin dip. I finally found an electric

parafin warmer for the specific purpose of dipping hands or feet. The warmth

seems to penetrate right to the pain and gives me a lot of relief.

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In a message dated 11/26/00 7:46:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, clonan@...

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<< The best thing I have found when my hands get to hurting so much that

nothing seems to releive it is a parafin dip. >>

For anyone who is interested - I just saw a parafin dip advertised on Home

Shopping Network for $59.95

Most people who have one say they've paid up to $200 for them.

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I found your post Cat and want to say thank you . Now if I could only find the

post Peggy was talking about.

Message: 17

Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:49:09 -0500

From: " Cat " <saturner@...>

Subject: Re: COLOGNE ????

Hi :

I hope I can be of some help to you. First, what kind of alcohol are you

using for your cologne base? If the alcohol is strong enough, you won't

have a problem with the fragrance oils beading up, separating or clouding

your mixture. I recommend grain alcohol (Everclear, Golden Grain), or if

you plan on selling your product, use 39C denatured alcohol.

Vodka is risky...I found that in most instances (especially when water is

added), it is too weak to completely emulsify the fragrance oils, and you

have the problems mentioned previously.

Dissolve the fragrance oils in the alcohol, then add a small amount of

distilled water (no more than 50%, to avoid the risk of clouding; for

instance, if you have 8 oz. alcohol, then add up to 4 oz. distilled water)

to the alcohol/oil mixture, not the other way around, or the oils will

separate. Stop if the mixture starts to cloud, and let it settle. Add a

small amount of alcohol if the cloudiness doesn't dissipate.

For a more lasting fragrance, add a small amount (about 1 tsp. per 4 oz.

alcohol) of glycerine (found in drug stores).

For " designer " fragrance oils, look in the Toiletries library (the address

is at the bottom of this email), under " Supplies " , then " Fragrances " .

I recommend the following:

For Perfumes:

Use 1 part fragrance oil to 4 parts alcohol or other perfume base

For Eau de Toilette

Use 1 part f.o. to 6 parts alcohol or other base

For Cologne:

Use 1 part f.o. to 8 parts alcohol or other base

For splashes or Eau Fraiche:

Use 1 part f.o. to 10-20 parts alcohol or other base

> I want to try my hand at making some Cologne but have some things that I

need to ask. I understand the Cologne is made of alcohol and frequents .

> I want to know where I can find designer fragrant to make my cologne .

What I also want to know is wouldn't FOs bead up in alcohol ? Thank you in

advance for your help .

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Glad to help...is there a particular scent you want to make?

Cat

> I found your post Cat and want to say thank you . Now if I could only find

the post Peggy was talking about.

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This is not something I want Ellie doing either. The school I drive for gets

the students out delivering flyers. I have mixed feelings about that. If I

was the parent of one of the kids in that school, I might feel it's good.

But since I'm not, I am really glad I don't have to make that decision. I

will decide for Ellie, not the other children. All the children that attend

that school have special needs.

I am glad I got her into the local school fully included. All her work is

modified, but it is along the " academic " line, learning numbers, letters,

printing, listening to stories, working on the computer etc. I was visiting

one day last week, and while Ellie was painting at the easel, her aide was

draining the juice boxes before putting them into the recycling. She

mentioned that Ellie likes to help her do that, but today she wants to show

off her painting for mom. So I have been wondering if I should complain

about that. But I know from working with cw special needs on the school bus

that some of them have a real NEED to be useful, whether they are or not,

and it is very beneficial for them to be given a job to do. Some don't have

that need, so the parents and teachers have to be sensitive to the

individual need of each child. Let's hope we don't become too prejudiced to

say " that job is below my child's dignity, " and give them the wrong

attitude.

There are some good programs available here in Calgary for young adults with

special needs that can teach them the life skills and job skills and

independance skills they need. If I have problems with a school wanting to

take Ellie away from her real studies to learn life skills, then I'll remind

them that I plan on looking into those programs after she is out of high

school. Meanwhile, I work on everday life things with her as best I can.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:35:01 -0600

> From: " " <koster@...>

> Subject: A question for the group

>

> Hello

> I have a question for any of you who would care to comment. I have a jr.

high age daughter (NDA) and was at the campus today working with a PTO

project. This jr. high is non-inclusion. There was a class there cleaning

the cafeteria and front doors and windows of the office. They referred to

themselves as a resource class, but most are in the special education

> classroom exclusively. There was one boy in the group that I know is not

in special education, but all the others present were. We asked them what

they were doing and they said they get paid to clean the " lunchroom and

stuff " . One boy said he had collected his check today and it was $18.25 -

don't know

> how long he worked for that. There were two DS kids in the group and this

was about 2 p.m. I asked an aide from a different campus if she knew about

it and she said yes that they think it helps to give them something to do.

My question to you is - Is this what you want your kids doing in school?

Another question - is reading, writing and arithmetic not enough to give

> them something to do?

>

> Mom to 2 year old Nina, DS with still a few more years to go to jr. high,

but already getting worried.

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This is not something I want Ellie doing either. The school I drive for gets

the students out delivering flyers. I have mixed feelings about that. If I

was the parent of one of the kids in that school, I might feel it's good.

But since I'm not, I am really glad I don't have to make that decision. I

will decide for Ellie, not the other children. All the children that attend

that school have special needs.

I am glad I got her into the local school fully included. All her work is

modified, but it is along the " academic " line, learning numbers, letters,

printing, listening to stories, working on the computer etc. I was visiting

one day last week, and while Ellie was painting at the easel, her aide was

draining the juice boxes before putting them into the recycling. She

mentioned that Ellie likes to help her do that, but today she wants to show

off her painting for mom. So I have been wondering if I should complain

about that. But I know from working with cw special needs on the school bus

that some of them have a real NEED to be useful, whether they are or not,

and it is very beneficial for them to be given a job to do. Some don't have

that need, so the parents and teachers have to be sensitive to the

individual need of each child. Let's hope we don't become too prejudiced to

say " that job is below my child's dignity, " and give them the wrong

attitude.

There are some good programs available here in Calgary for young adults with

special needs that can teach them the life skills and job skills and

independance skills they need. If I have problems with a school wanting to

take Ellie away from her real studies to learn life skills, then I'll remind

them that I plan on looking into those programs after she is out of high

school. Meanwhile, I work on everday life things with her as best I can.

Gwen, mom to Ellie 5

> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:35:01 -0600

> From: " " <koster@...>

> Subject: A question for the group

>

> Hello

> I have a question for any of you who would care to comment. I have a jr.

high age daughter (NDA) and was at the campus today working with a PTO

project. This jr. high is non-inclusion. There was a class there cleaning

the cafeteria and front doors and windows of the office. They referred to

themselves as a resource class, but most are in the special education

> classroom exclusively. There was one boy in the group that I know is not

in special education, but all the others present were. We asked them what

they were doing and they said they get paid to clean the " lunchroom and

stuff " . One boy said he had collected his check today and it was $18.25 -

don't know

> how long he worked for that. There were two DS kids in the group and this

was about 2 p.m. I asked an aide from a different campus if she knew about

it and she said yes that they think it helps to give them something to do.

My question to you is - Is this what you want your kids doing in school?

Another question - is reading, writing and arithmetic not enough to give

> them something to do?

>

> Mom to 2 year old Nina, DS with still a few more years to go to jr. high,

but already getting worried.

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> one day last week, and while Ellie was painting at the easel, her aide was

> draining the juice boxes before putting them into the recycling. She

> mentioned that Ellie likes to help her do that, but today she wants to

show

> off her painting for mom. So I have been wondering if I should complain

Isn't helping a part of every classroom? I know kids think it is a big

priviledge to erase the boards, or take the attendance up to the office,

etc. I'll bet other kids in the class help out too.

R.

Mom to (7, ds) and Grace (4)

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> one day last week, and while Ellie was painting at the easel, her aide was

> draining the juice boxes before putting them into the recycling. She

> mentioned that Ellie likes to help her do that, but today she wants to

show

> off her painting for mom. So I have been wondering if I should complain

Isn't helping a part of every classroom? I know kids think it is a big

priviledge to erase the boards, or take the attendance up to the office,

etc. I'll bet other kids in the class help out too.

R.

Mom to (7, ds) and Grace (4)

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Hi all....

My name is a, I have a daughter with a dual dx

of autism/MR along with that goes...adjustment

disorder w/disorder in conduct, sensory dysfunction,

mild tourettes and probably several other things I

cant seem to remember at the moment.

http://members.tripod.com/wish4wings/

I wanted to touch on both the violent behaviors as

well as periods as I have experience with both.

My daughter Cyndi is a beautiful 13 year old that is

very high functioning has been basically verbal all

her life.

While I agree that children on the whole should have

the opportunity to be involved within the NT

classroom, I also understand the ever present need for

protection..and sometimes even from themselves.

After several requests for help, several meetings to

discuss stratagies this being up to and including

making changes on IEP's and behavior plans I still

felt as tho my child was not only a danger to herself

but to others as well. I could see she was frustrated,

I could hear the desperation in what she wouldnt say

and just as I was about to make more changes in her

schooling my daughter lost control.

Cyndi had put her fist through a plate glass window

after attacking another student and a teacher's aide.

This ended in my placing her on a psych unit for a 14

day eval.

I begged all professionals to agree with me that she

should not return to school however was met with

strong opposition and yet the only thing that was

being said was " She needs the socialization " .

Cyndi was later, approx.2 months, put on a crisis

stabilization unit. She was doing okay however on the

night of her 6th day she suffered a laceration and

broken bone and was denied medical treatment for 13

1/2 hours. They finally notified me and I went

immediately to remove her. I was supposed to take her

back however told them to get bent(although not as

politely)and after our trip to hosp. she came home.

Cyndi began school again with different teachers

(seems the previous teacher had been denounced by her

peers and resigned) Cyndi was doing okay yelling some

but not being overtly aggressive. After a day of

frustration on all sides I believe, an aide lost her

control and grabbed Cyndi by the hair yanked her head

back and screamed in her face. Needless to say, after

the police came and the aide removed, Cyndi was

withdrawn from school.

After 2 years of intense homeschooling (my kids hate

mommy school lol) She is now on honor roll,

mainstreamed in 2 classes and overall doing very well.

I would hate to think of the outcome had I not made

the decision to stop everything else and focus on her

in a home schooling situation. She was worth my losing

a job and putting my life on hold.. I look at her now

and I know shes going to be okay!

As for periods...girls with autism or asd's can be

and are teachable with regard to periods, pads etc...

sometimes the explanation we give is not enough for

them as they need a more black and white version.

Cyndi didnt get the whole idea until we began

discussing how the body works what some of its jobs

are and yes how yukko some of these can be. She

learned uterine bleeding and was informed as to the

why's and how's of it all prior to her actually

starting. All this made it easier for her to accept. I

thank my friends with girls, some with autism some not

but all agreed to one important thing.. You have to

let them know more you cant just say 'period yada yada

pad yada yada' you have to be specific.

Read...read...read!

I wish you all luck in all you do! Thanks for letting

me put in my two cents <:o)

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>>How will the diagnosis of apraxia change how your son is treated?

I know for me, there are many reasons I have persued the diagnosis. The

only thing that i believe will change in his therapy is that we will

probably try to rely less on teaching sign and more on just the speech. Ian

gets 3 sessions a week, 60 min. of therapy right now. That frequency is just

right.

>>How is his receptive language?

A little too good sometimes! Actually, his last eval. placed his receptive

skills with only a 5% delay. He does remarkably well with cognitive skills,

and is a bright little boy. It is so frustrating to him that he can't tell

us what he's thinking. He gets soooo upset sometimes.

>>Does he have ways of communicating what he wants - ASL, gestures,

etc.?

For the most part, he communicates w/ gestures though he does have a vocab.

of about 20-30 signs. he will verbalize wants and needs, but not with words,

just sounds (some form very beginnings of words, others are just what appear

to be random sounds).

>>Do you believe he's autistic?

I have never had reason to with Ian.

>>Does he play imaginatively? Make toys interact?

Very well actually. He likes to play with cars and trucks, and will create a

whole village setting and " drive " around. He will also play w/ little

people, and will sometimes have them talk. (the other day in therapy, big

bird and ernie had an entire conversation-don't ask me what he said, but he

sat there and had them both " talk " .

>>What do you know about Sensory Integration Disorder?

My PERSONAL expereince is limited, though as I mentioned, I work for a Dev.

therapist who has work with children w/ SID. I have not seen anything that

would raise a flag for me, he will play in just about any substance, loves

to be touched, and seems to handle things pretty well. the only issue that

has been raised is that Ian shows an aversion to meat of any kind, unless it

is breaded. He will usually not even attempt to pick it up, much less eat

it. I have always attributed this to being a picky eater. The one thing that

caught my attention is that he never even tried it the first time.

>>What does your regular ped think?

This is the interesting part. She did not even have concerns with Ian's

speech delay until after he was 2. SHe realized that there was a problem

(even after 6 mos of therapy). She is very supportive, but admits she has

little knowledge of this. She has encouraged all of the appointments and has

even offered to help if insurance gives us any problem w/ paying for evals.

I know for myself that the decision to persue the diagnosis of apraxia was

not an easy one. On one hand, I felt it would help me know " why " and would

let me know that yes, there is a problem, or no, he's just a slow talker. On

the other hand, I really feel that if this is the problem, and since he has

displayed so many characteristics, I had to explore it. If I didn't, and we

did not see progress in the long run, I would have definite problems with

myself and knowing I should have done more. If the diagnosis is ruled out, I

will not be upset in the least, providing the dr does take the time to

examine him. I guess I just have to know. That, and with the diagnosis, we

can get assistance with paying for therapy after he turns 3 (I have plans to

home school Ian, rather than place him in the public school system. His

socialization needs are more than met w/ playgroups, church, and family-he

has young cousins).

On another note...we have finally gotten the schedule set for Ian's

evaluations. He will see a Speech Pathologist the 22nd to get the 2nd

opinion from the speech perspective. On Aug 6th, he sees a pediatric

neurologist, to pursue the neurological aspects of Apraxia (this is required

for DSCC.)

Boy, I've gone on too long! Thanks for listening.

Sherry, mom to Ian, 28 mos, Poss Verbal Apraxia

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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:30:33 -0000

From: " marina3029 " <philipmary@...>

Subject: To Sherry & Sara...

I have heard all the same things - that apraxia is a catch all, that

it's a stolen term from stroke patients, that it can't be diagnosed

earlier than 3, etc.. I personally am unsure how I feel about it,

all I know is that you have to have SOME sort of diagnosis for the

insurance to pay, and as long as the therapy is working (and apraxia

usually requires frequent 1:1 ST) I don't care what the INITIAL

diagnosis is. I'm wary of anyone who sees my child for 30-45 minutes

and determines that he's " got " this or that.

That said, my son Zach is almost 4 (next wed) and was diagnosed at

about 2.9. He's been going to therapy since he was 2.5. He was

completely non-verbal (da for everything and NO attempt to mimic) up

until 2.5 and then he just started trying. The first words were

definitely approximations - Moo for cow, Bo for bread - but hey, they

were consistent and I understood! He now speaks in complete complex

sentences. He asks questions (something I think is a huge gap in non-

verbal kids - they miss that " But WHY?? " phase), uses pronouns and

tense correctly. Is he intelligible?? Not really - we usually

understand, but a stranger would only get about 65% of what he said.

His receptive language has always been strong. He watched and

understood (still does) an AMAZING amount of what's going on around

him.

So - here are my questions for you:

How will the diagnosis of apraxia change how your son is treated?

How is his receptive language?

Does he have ways of communicating what he wants - ASL, gestures,

etc.?

Do you believe he's autistic?

Does he play imaginatively? Make toys interact?

What do you know about Sensory Integration Disorder?

SID can affect speech, can cause TERRIBLE tantrums (as can the

frustration of being non-verbal), can lead to spinning and jumping

etc.. It can also lead to withdrawing (like curling up under a

chair) in particularly distressing situations. My son also used to

line up rows of fire engines (used to freak me out) until I figured

out he was making a train...

I don't know if any of this helps - I'm all for a second opinion -

even if you've got to drive to make it really unbiased (don't know

how big your town is). What does your regular ped think?

Good luck -

Marina

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Dear

I seem to have disconnected myself from Senate since finally managing to

get to verify my new e-mail address! What do I need to do (or

would it be easier to unsubscribe and then resubscribe)?

Best wishes

Gill Newell

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