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I'm curious re: your friend's problems after the TUMT, because

that's when my problems (other than the PCa) began. After the TURP, was he no

longer incontinent? Impotent? Any other problems solved?

Thanks.

Tom Lauterback

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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:35 AM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: Re: urinary problems

I have a friend who had symptoms much like

yours (but no PCa). He had a really enlarged bladder that had developed over

the years and then began giving him problems so he went to find out the cause.

He had a large prostate and so a Transurethral Microwave Thermotherapy of the

Prostate (TUMT) was performed. That did not seem to solve the problem and in

fact he started having even greater problems. Began having significant bladder

spasms (overfilled) and had to go the self catheter route. A couple of months

ago he had a TURP. That finally fixed his problem.

All cases are different but perhaps this one at least gives you some ideas for

your situation.

>

> As I have stated here before, I have had a Foley catheter since Oct 1st of

last year.

> Last week when I went back for an appointment to do another voiding trial,

the urologist said something very interesting. He said that is likely that I

may never be able to urinate on my own,

> What I am wondering is if anyone else with T3b and enlarged bladder has

had to have a catheter long term (indefinitely).

> They have me on Zoladex treatments every three months and are not opting

for RP or radiation.

> I can't imagine having to deal with a catheter the rest of my life. After

more than 4 months I still find it uncomfortable and bothersome. I would really

like to hear from anyone else in this situation and how they deal with it.

> Next month I go back for another shot and a PSA

>

> Dave Halvorsen

>

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Dave

I agree with Alan here. A weight loss from 148 down to 136 is unusual. There are

a number of reasons for you to loose weight. I would call my doc and see what he

has to say.

I had a cath in for 4 days I absolutely hated the stupid thing. But it felt so

good to have it out. This was to have a tURP done to open the ureathre some

more. .

Re: Re: urinary problems

Dave wrote:

> ...

> Also, does anyone know if weight loss is an effect from the

> hormone treatment. In the last 3 months I have lost 12 pounds

> (from 148 down to 136). I am very concerned about this.

Dave,

I cannot recall reading any complaints about weight loss from

ADT. I do recall some patients complaining about weight gain.

136 pounds is very light. If you are upset or depressed enough

about your condition to have lost your appetite, that could

result in weight loss.

I once had a weight loss like yours, from 152 to 134, caused by a

hyperthyroid condition that sped up my metabolism. The condition

resolved itself and I gained the weight back. The most obvious

other symptom I had was a rapid heart beat.

But there are any number of possible causes of weight loss. I

think you should talk to your doctor about it.

Alan

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Thanks for your response. I may have to do the TURP also. I was

planning to avoid both the TUMT and TURP by having brachytherapy done, then

decided on radiation instead of brachy. Now I may have to have the whole combo

platter. At least the pain and spasms have subsided; perhaps there's hope for

the incontinence and impotence.

Tom Lauterback

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Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:01 AM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: Re: urinary problems

After the TUMT, thinking all was well he went

home to recover. Within 3 or so days he started having big-time pain and

nausea. After a couple of days of this back to the Uro. Problem - bladder

spasms because he was not voiding and his bladder was apparently hugely

overextended (problem that had occurred over the course of his life).

Put on catheter and after a week or so went to self cath. Intent was to retrain

bladder to do its thing. Didn't fully work out so back to URO for a TURP. Now

all is well uro-wise. Have no idea re: potency. I think he was to hold off on

any sex for several weeks; that time is probably only close to ending.

> >

> > As I have stated here before, I have had a Foley catheter since Oct

1st of

> last year.

> > Last week when I went back for an appointment to do another voiding

trial,

> the urologist said something very interesting. He said that is likely that

I

> may never be able to urinate on my own,

> > What I am wondering is if anyone else with T3b and enlarged bladder

has

> had to have a catheter long term (indefinitely).

> > They have me on Zoladex treatments every three months and are not

opting

> for RP or radiation.

> > I can't imagine having to deal with a catheter the rest of my life.

After

> more than 4 months I still find it uncomfortable and bothersome. I would

> really like to hear from anyone else in this situation and how they deal

> with it.

> > Next month I go back for another shot and a PSA

> >

> > Dave Halvorsen

> >

>

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