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In a message dated 1/7/00 11:10:35 PM Central Standard Time,

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<< Debbie >>

Debbie, I don't know you, But I can try to help you!

1st, you say you have been on the Prednisone a couple years right? Why are

your Doc's not trying to get you off with some type of DMARD's? like Metho,

Arava, Immuran or ect.......

2nd. The ENT will NOT see anything in the ears, You need a NEW rheumy soon, I

understand the low income thing but the Pred is only masking you real

problems although you need the Pred till they get you off of it the " correct "

(when pain is all gone) way and put your RP to bay for a while.

I am just turned 33 on new years eve and it was a sad birthday, just thinking

of the severe inner ear pain in this last year and what the long term Pred

usage is doing to me and how it could kill me, my main goal is to get off the

pred, I am on a great drug called Enbrel and I am on Dapasone and I am down

to 40mg on my Pred (i have been on Pred 60-20mg) since Feb of 99 and its time

for me to get off no matter what it takes because the pred can very much so

after long term usage hurt you in many ways. My question to you is in the

last couple years of you being on the Pred have any of your Doc's tried any

Immuno's on you? (methotrexate ect....???)

If not ask them why. Also why would they cut back the Pred when you hurt so

much??? Without any other Med's in place. Also do you happen to know what

you C-Reactive is or your SED Rate? If they are high and you are in bad pain

and your Doc's want to cut back your Pred but have you on nothing else,

Debbie its time no matter what to seek out better health care if you want to

live, sorry for being so blunt that is the fact. I have lots of damage due

to old doctors that sound just like yours do, for instance I now have

Tricuspid insufficiency (my heart), ear damage, esophagus problems, etc., ...

all in due to doctors NOT DOING ME RIGHT for so many years, I was told by

Trentham and my Dr. none of this would have been as bad if the right med's

were started sooner. I do care about you and I am being honest, and I

believe we all need the best care out there if we are to get better. I

completely understand the low income issue, but there must be other doctors

who take that Ins, please seek them out and find one you feel safe with, 2-3

years of Pred with no Steroid spearing drug just is not right. I am a

Phlebotomist and if you want to go over your labs with me I could help you

with them, my # is Feel free to call any time. Please let us

know how it goes and good luck to you, :)

P.

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How long have you been on Enbrel and is it helping?

Jo

DEBBIE

>In a message dated 1/7/00 11:10:35 PM Central Standard Time,

>sunnydaledeb@... writes:

>

><< Debbie >>

>

>

>Debbie, I don't know you, But I can try to help you!

>

>1st, you say you have been on the Prednisone a couple years right? Why are

>your Doc's not trying to get you off with some type of DMARD's? like Metho,

>Arava, Immuran or ect.......

>

>2nd. The ENT will NOT see anything in the ears, You need a NEW rheumy soon,

I

>understand the low income thing but the Pred is only masking you real

>problems although you need the Pred till they get you off of it the

" correct "

>(when pain is all gone) way and put your RP to bay for a while.

>

>I am just turned 33 on new years eve and it was a sad birthday, just

thinking

>of the severe inner ear pain in this last year and what the long term Pred

>usage is doing to me and how it could kill me, my main goal is to get off

the

>pred, I am on a great drug called Enbrel and I am on Dapasone and I am down

>to 40mg on my Pred (i have been on Pred 60-20mg) since Feb of 99 and its

time

>for me to get off no matter what it takes because the pred can very much so

>after long term usage hurt you in many ways. My question to you is in the

>last couple years of you being on the Pred have any of your Doc's tried any

>Immuno's on you? (methotrexate ect....???)

>If not ask them why. Also why would they cut back the Pred when you hurt

so

>much??? Without any other Med's in place. Also do you happen to know what

>you C-Reactive is or your SED Rate? If they are high and you are in bad

pain

>and your Doc's want to cut back your Pred but have you on nothing else,

>Debbie its time no matter what to seek out better health care if you want

to

>live, sorry for being so blunt that is the fact. I have lots of damage due

>to old doctors that sound just like yours do, for instance I now have

>Tricuspid insufficiency (my heart), ear damage, esophagus problems, etc.,

....

>all in due to doctors NOT DOING ME RIGHT for so many years, I was told by

>Trentham and my Dr. none of this would have been as bad if the right med's

>were started sooner. I do care about you and I am being honest, and I

>believe we all need the best care out there if we are to get better. I

>completely understand the low income issue, but there must be other doctors

>who take that Ins, please seek them out and find one you feel safe with,

2-3

>years of Pred with no Steroid spearing drug just is not right. I am a

>Phlebotomist and if you want to go over your labs with me I could help you

>with them, my # is Feel free to call any time. Please let us

>know how it goes and good luck to you, :)

>

>

> P.

>

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Thank you for the help. I have been trying to put what you said into words

to the doc's and I haven't been able to get across my point. I don't have

another doc appointment for a few weeks, but, I will work on getting a few

more answers, especially with the lab tests. Debbie

DEBBIE

> In a message dated 1/7/00 11:10:35 PM Central Standard Time,

> sunnydaledeb@... writes:

>

> << Debbie >>

>

>

> Debbie, I don't know you, But I can try to help you!

>

> 1st, you say you have been on the Prednisone a couple years right? Why

are

> your Doc's not trying to get you off with some type of DMARD's? like

Metho,

> Arava, Immuran or ect.......

>

> 2nd. The ENT will NOT see anything in the ears, You need a NEW rheumy

soon, I

> understand the low income thing but the Pred is only masking you real

> problems although you need the Pred till they get you off of it the

" correct "

> (when pain is all gone) way and put your RP to bay for a while.

>

> I am just turned 33 on new years eve and it was a sad birthday, just

thinking

> of the severe inner ear pain in this last year and what the long term Pred

> usage is doing to me and how it could kill me, my main goal is to get off

the

> pred, I am on a great drug called Enbrel and I am on Dapasone and I am

down

> to 40mg on my Pred (i have been on Pred 60-20mg) since Feb of 99 and its

time

> for me to get off no matter what it takes because the pred can very much

so

> after long term usage hurt you in many ways. My question to you is in

the

> last couple years of you being on the Pred have any of your Doc's tried

any

> Immuno's on you? (methotrexate ect....???)

> If not ask them why. Also why would they cut back the Pred when you hurt

so

> much??? Without any other Med's in place. Also do you happen to know what

> you C-Reactive is or your SED Rate? If they are high and you are in bad

pain

> and your Doc's want to cut back your Pred but have you on nothing else,

> Debbie its time no matter what to seek out better health care if you want

to

> live, sorry for being so blunt that is the fact. I have lots of damage

due

> to old doctors that sound just like yours do, for instance I now have

> Tricuspid insufficiency (my heart), ear damage, esophagus problems, etc.,

....

> all in due to doctors NOT DOING ME RIGHT for so many years, I was told by

> Trentham and my Dr. none of this would have been as bad if the right med's

> were started sooner. I do care about you and I am being honest, and I

> believe we all need the best care out there if we are to get better. I

> completely understand the low income issue, but there must be other

doctors

> who take that Ins, please seek them out and find one you feel safe with,

2-3

> years of Pred with no Steroid spearing drug just is not right. I am a

> Phlebotomist and if you want to go over your labs with me I could help you

> with them, my # is Feel free to call any time. Please let us

> know how it goes and good luck to you, :)

>

>

> P.

>

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I agree with Debbie. I am considered HR for the surgery and prior

gestational diabetes. I have opted for no testing other than

ultrasound and I check my blood 4 times a day. I will not have the

triple screen or an amnio. You have the choice in those matters as

to what tests you allow. Hang in there!!

Trina

> Donna,

>

> Then tell them that. They will NOT do anything you don't want done

unless

> it would cause harm to either you or the baby NOT to do it and even

then you

> have to consent.

>

> If I do manage to conceive again, I already have a prenatal

appointment set

> up for the 2nd week in May with the best high risk group in

Cincinnati.

>

> Debbie :-)

>

> Debbie

>

> I know HR OB watch things more closely. I just do not want any

invasive

> proceedures. I will take as many U/S as they want to give me though.

> And in labor/ delivery, unless necessary, I do not want to be

hooked up!

>

> I have set up a consultation appointment with teh HR OB, tomeet and

talk to

> her before I decide what to do.

>

> Thanks, Donna

>

>

>

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