bone spread update

[Guest guest]

A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan they did

that my cancer had spread " some " into the bone. Yesterday I had another Urology

appointment and found out it is more that just some. it is in my hip, spine and

under my right eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.

Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information and most

likely more medication to take. I will keep eveyone posted on that next week.

Also, I have had a catheter since last October and have been suceptable to

infections. The urologist mentioned a possible proceedure so won't need

catheter. Its a surgical proceedure where they go in and roto-rooter my

prostate. Has anyone had that done?

I will have to wait a while longer to have that done, as I am having surgery

next Friday for my hernia.

By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February, 6.4 in May,

30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They took more blood yesterday for

another PSA. Am expecting it will go up again.

Dave Halvorsen

[Guest guest]

Isn’t that roto-rooter service also

known as a TURP? Scan back on that and you should be able to find some

information. I have seen this topic come up several times and is a common

procedure (it seems). I am sorry to see that your PSA is jumping up. Good

luck.

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Dave

Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010

1:51 PM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject:

bone spread update

A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from

the bone scan they did that my cancer had spread " some " into the

bone. Yesterday I had another Urology appointment and found out it is more that

just some. it is in my hip, spine and under my right eye. They have me on

Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.

Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information and most

likely more medication to take. I will keep eveyone posted on that next week.

Also, I have had a catheter since last October and have been suceptable to

infections. The urologist mentioned a possible proceedure so won't need

catheter. Its a surgical proceedure where they go in and roto-rooter my

prostate. Has anyone had that done?

I will have to wait a while longer to have that done, as I am having surgery

next Friday for my hernia.

By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February, 6.4 in May,

30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They took more blood yesterday for

another PSA. Am expecting it will go up again.

Dave Halvorsen

[Guest guest]

I just had a TURP, so it's still all too fresh in my mind. Larry?Dave: happy to answer any questions. Also had a TUMT, unfortunately.

Tom/65/dx 4/09/3+3/PSA 5.7 -> 0.1 after 44 IGRT treatments

RE: bone spread update

Isn’t that roto-rooter service also known as a TURP? Scan back on that and you should be able to find some information. I have seen this topic come up several times and is a common procedure (it seems). I am sorry to see that your PSA is jumping up. Good luck.

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of DaveSent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:51 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: bone spread update

A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan they did that my cancer had spread "some" into the bone. Yesterday I had another Urology appointment and found out it is more that just some. it is in my hip, spine and under my right eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information and most likely more medication to take. I will keep eveyone posted on that next week.Also, I have had a catheter since last October and have been suceptable to infections. The urologist mentioned a possible proceedure so won't need catheter. Its a surgical proceedure where they go in and roto-rooter my prostate. Has anyone had that done?I will have to wait a while longer to have that done, as I am having surgery next Friday for my hernia.By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February, 6.4 in May, 30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They took more blood yesterday for another PSA. Am expecting it will go up again.Dave Halvorsen

[Guest guest]

I just had a TURP, so it's still all too fresh in my mind. Larry?Dave: happy to answer any questions. Also had a TUMT, unfortunately.

Tom/65/dx 4/09/3+3/PSA 5.7 -> 0.1 after 44 IGRT treatments

RE: bone spread update

Isn’t that roto-rooter service also known as a TURP? Scan back on that and you should be able to find some information. I have seen this topic come up several times and is a common procedure (it seems). I am sorry to see that your PSA is jumping up. Good luck.

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of DaveSent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 1:51 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: bone spread update

A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan they did that my cancer had spread "some" into the bone. Yesterday I had another Urology appointment and found out it is more that just some. it is in my hip, spine and under my right eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information and most likely more medication to take. I will keep eveyone posted on that next week.Also, I have had a catheter since last October and have been suceptable to infections. The urologist mentioned a possible proceedure so won't need catheter. Its a surgical proceedure where they go in and roto-rooter my prostate. Has anyone had that done?I will have to wait a while longer to have that done, as I am having surgery next Friday for my hernia.By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February, 6.4 in May, 30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They took more blood yesterday for another PSA. Am expecting it will go up again.Dave Halvorsen

[Guest guest]

I had a cystoscopy during my early diagnosis

days. I am not interested in having anything like that happen again if I can

keep from it =:-o

I am fresh out of IMRT if anyone needs

help with that.

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Tom Lauterback

Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010

2:28 PM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: Re:

bone spread update

I just had a TURP, so it's still all too

fresh in my mind. Larry?Dave: happy to answer any questions. Also had a TUMT,

unfortunately.

Tom/65/dx 4/09/3+3/PSA 5.7 -> 0.1 after

44 IGRT treatments

bone spread update

A few

weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan they did that my

cancer had spread " some " into the bone. Yesterday I had another

Urology appointment and found out it is more that just some. it is in my hip,

spine and under my right eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every

day.

Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information and most

likely more medication to take. I will keep eveyone posted on that next week.

Also, I have had a catheter since last October and have been suceptable to

infections. The urologist mentioned a possible proceedure so won't need

catheter. Its a surgical proceedure where they go in and roto-rooter my

prostate. Has anyone had that done?

I will have to wait a while longer to have that done, as I am having surgery

next Friday for my hernia.

By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February, 6.4 in May,

30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They took more blood yesterday for

another PSA. Am expecting it will go up again.

Dave Halvorsen

[Guest guest]

> A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan

> they did that my cancer had spread " some " into the bone.

> Yesterday I had another Urology appointment and found out it is

> more that just some. it is in my hip, spine and under my right

> eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.

> Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information

> and most likely more medication to take.

I do hope that the oncologist is a cancer expert who is

well-trained in treatment of PCa.

Bicalutimide is a testosterone (T) antagonist. It blocks the

androgen (T) receptors of the PCa cells. Normally, it is employed

as part of a " Total Androgen Blockade " regimen that includes an

LHRH agonist such as Trelstar, Zoladex or Lupron in its various

manifestations plus Avodart or Proscar to prevent the enzyme

5-alpha reductase from transforming T to the much more powerful

and dangerous DHT (dihydrotestosterone).

Look it up on www.rxist.com

So far as PCa treatment is concerned, I have to wonder why Dave

consults a uro, a medic who is at best a surgeon, unqualified to

treat cancer except by surgery. Once the uro has completed

surgery, his job is finished.

> By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February,

> 6.4 in May, 30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They

> took more blood yesterday for another PSA. Am expecting it will

> go up again.

Your PSA is rising at some 7.0 ng/mL per month. I must say that

your situation is at best high-risk. No surgeon can (is able to)

correct that, IMO.

Regards,

Steve J

" I believe it is a mistake for many urologists to be

involved in the endocrine therapy of prostate cancer. Let me

state why.

Urologists are surgeons and many times surgeons rush to a

treatment without

really understanding what they are doing. The old joke in

medical school

was that surgeons do everything and know nothing.... "

-- B. Strum, MD

Medical Oncologist

PCa Specialist

>

> Dave Halvorsen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the comments Steve. I apreciate it. First of all I will be seeing an oncologist on Tuesday, and yes I do hope he is a good one. You may have missed my previous post where I pointed out that the urologist had told me that they usually handle prostate cancer until it has metasized, and then they refer to an oncologist. That is what I was told anyway.

Yes, the rise in PSA has me worried too. I am more worried about the metasis. From what I have read survival rate beyond 5 yrs is not too good.

I hope the oncologist can help. At this point all I can do pray that he can.

Dave Halvorsen

To: ProstateCancerSupport Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 4:38:13 PMSubject: Re: bone spread update> A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan> they did that my cancer had spread "some" into the bone.> Yesterday I had another Urology appointment and found out it is> more that just some. it is in my hip, spine and under my right> eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.> Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information> and most likely more medication to take.I do hope that the oncologist is a cancer expert who is

well-trained in treatment of PCa.Bicalutimide is a testosterone (T) antagonist. It blocks the androgen (T) receptors of the PCa cells. Normally, it is employed as part of a "Total Androgen Blockade" regimen that includes an LHRH agonist such as Trelstar, Zoladex or Lupron in its various manifestations plus Avodart or Proscar to prevent the enzyme 5-alpha reductase from transforming T to the much more powerful and dangerous DHT (dihydrotestosterone).Look it up on www.rxist.comSo far as PCa treatment is concerned, I have to wonder why Dave consults a uro, a medic who is at best a surgeon, unqualified to treat cancer except by surgery. Once the uro has completed surgery, his job is finished.> By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February,> 6.4 in May, 30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They>

took more blood yesterday for another PSA. Am expecting it will> go up again.Your PSA is rising at some 7.0 ng/mL per month. I must say that your situation is at best high-risk. No surgeon can (is able to) correct that, IMO.Regards,Steve J"I believe it is a mistake for many urologists to beinvolved in the endocrine therapy of prostate cancer. Let me state why.Urologists are surgeons and many times surgeons rush to a treatment withoutreally understanding what they are doing. The old joke in medical schoolwas that surgeons do everything and know nothing...."-- B. Strum, MDMedical OncologistPCa Specialist>> Dave Halvorsen>> ------------------------------------There are just two rules for this group 1 No Spam 2 Be kind to othersPlease recognise that Prostate Cancerhas

different guises and needs different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at other options. Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking replyTry to change the title if the content requires it

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the comments Steve. I apreciate it. First of all I will be seeing an oncologist on Tuesday, and yes I do hope he is a good one. You may have missed my previous post where I pointed out that the urologist had told me that they usually handle prostate cancer until it has metasized, and then they refer to an oncologist. That is what I was told anyway.

Yes, the rise in PSA has me worried too. I am more worried about the metasis. From what I have read survival rate beyond 5 yrs is not too good.

I hope the oncologist can help. At this point all I can do pray that he can.

Dave Halvorsen

To: ProstateCancerSupport Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 4:38:13 PMSubject: Re: bone spread update> A few weeks ago I reported that they had found from the bone scan> they did that my cancer had spread "some" into the bone.> Yesterday I had another Urology appointment and found out it is> more that just some. it is in my hip, spine and under my right> eye. They have me on Bicalutamide 50mg which I take every day.> Tuesday I meet with the oncologist and will get more information> and most likely more medication to take.I do hope that the oncologist is a cancer expert who is

well-trained in treatment of PCa.Bicalutimide is a testosterone (T) antagonist. It blocks the androgen (T) receptors of the PCa cells. Normally, it is employed as part of a "Total Androgen Blockade" regimen that includes an LHRH agonist such as Trelstar, Zoladex or Lupron in its various manifestations plus Avodart or Proscar to prevent the enzyme 5-alpha reductase from transforming T to the much more powerful and dangerous DHT (dihydrotestosterone).Look it up on www.rxist.comSo far as PCa treatment is concerned, I have to wonder why Dave consults a uro, a medic who is at best a surgeon, unqualified to treat cancer except by surgery. Once the uro has completed surgery, his job is finished.> By the way my PSA's have been rising again. Was 4.8 in February,> 6.4 in May, 30.9 on August 17th and 33.2 on August 23rd. They>

took more blood yesterday for another PSA. Am expecting it will> go up again.Your PSA is rising at some 7.0 ng/mL per month. I must say that your situation is at best high-risk. No surgeon can (is able to) correct that, IMO.Regards,Steve J"I believe it is a mistake for many urologists to beinvolved in the endocrine therapy of prostate cancer. Let me state why.Urologists are surgeons and many times surgeons rush to a treatment withoutreally understanding what they are doing. The old joke in medical schoolwas that surgeons do everything and know nothing...."-- B. Strum, MDMedical OncologistPCa Specialist>> Dave Halvorsen>> ------------------------------------There are just two rules for this group 1 No Spam 2 Be kind to othersPlease recognise that Prostate Cancerhas

different guises and needs different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at other options. Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking replyTry to change the title if the content requires it