Guest guest Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Terry, I so agree. When the conventional doesn't work...patients and doctors are perplexed, and often go to "blaming" something or someone in how it must not have been done "right" or it would have worked.LISTENING without bias, or personal passion....is a lost art. Why? Because it involves TIME and PATIENCE and OPENESS to ANOTHER'S VIEW! In trying to find a "healing" (I have had to let go of the word "cure") andI have discovered I need to let go of so much of my pre-conceived thoughts about my expectations of medicine and doctors. They are not the "end-all". But instead, just part of the "team" that can work towards finding a "healing" for whatever ailment their patients come to them for. Once I have come to realize this, I can treat my doctors with the compassion and respect that is due to them, and quit expecting them to be the "end-all", to any of the medical problems I am seeking help for.I am learning to FORGIVE those doctors, who also think and have projected to me, they are the "end-all"...and do not consider my input as part of solving the problem or helping "heal".In the future, I hope to be able to listen more intuitively to my doctors and see if they are open to listening to me in becoming a team player. In this way, new medical "cures", may be discovered...and improved upon...because we all are listening to each other, and willing to be a team, and realizing God truly is the ONLY "End ALL"...and will provide the cures through other's LIFE SITUATIONS, and EXPERIENCES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Your views about doctors are very common. Growing up we learned that doctors are close to miracle works and can do wonders for keeping us well. As you grow older and more observant I observed that many doctors are really computers that follow decision trees. They take a bunch of input and then follow a set of rules (yes partially governed by the insurance companies) and eventually arriving at a treatment. (I am a computer scientist so pardon the analogy) Armed with this view when it came time to go for second opinions I made the consult more of an interview of who I felt I can work with. Someone who would listened to me and had the experience to give me the confidence to do what is best for me and not to just keep his numbers up for the insurance company. This also included the doctor’s support staff, the front office and the PAs. I did meet one of those “end-all” doctors and never went back. How could he have my best care in mind when they don’t want to work with me or take into consideration of the work or opinions of other doctors. I don’t think those ‘end-all” doctors need to be forgiven, I think they need to loose their clients to better doctors who are able to listen to them and give much better care. It is not hard they just need to step down out of their privileged life. I have been friends and clients of many esteemed medical professionals so a “holier than thou” attitude is not a requirement to being a great doctor. From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:48 AM To: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Listening is the key! Terry, I so agree. When the conventional doesn't work...patients and doctors are perplexed, and often go to " blaming " something or someone in how it must not have been done " right " or it would have worked. LISTENING without bias, or personal passion....is a lost art. Why? Because it involves TIME and PATIENCE and OPENESS to ANOTHER'S VIEW! In trying to find a " healing " (I have had to let go of the word " cure " ) and I have discovered I need to let go of so much of my pre-conceived thoughts about my expectations of medicine and doctors. They are not the " end-all " . But instead, just part of the " team " that can work towards finding a " healing " for whatever ailment their patients come to them for. Once I have come to realize this, I can treat my doctors with the compassion and respect that is due to them, and quit expecting them to be the " end-all " , to any of the medical problems I am seeking help for. I am learning to FORGIVE those doctors, who also think and have projected to me, they are the " end-all " ...and do not consider my input as part of solving the problem or helping " heal " . In the future, I hope to be able to listen more intuitively to my doctors and see if they are open to listening to me in becoming a team player. In this way, new medical " cures " , may be discovered...and improved upon...because we all are listening to each other, and willing to be a team, and realizing God truly is the ONLY " End ALL " ...and will provide the cures through other's LIFE SITUATIONS, and EXPERIENCES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Hello Larry, As renowned Medical Oncologist Strum often comments, too many doctors appear to believe that M.D. means Medical Deity. Chuck Always as close as the other end of your computer to help address any prostate cancer concerns. " What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others. " (Chuck) Maack/Prostate Cancer Advocate/Mentor Wichita, Kansas Chapter, Us TOO Biography: http://www.ustoowichita.org/leaders.cfm?content=bio & id=1 Email: maack1@... Chapter Website " Observations " : http://www.ustoowichita.org/observations.cfm From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Larry Helber Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:48 AM To: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Listening is the key! Your views about doctors are very common. Growing up we learned that doctors are close to miracle works and can do wonders for keeping us well. As you grow older and more observant I observed that many doctors are really computers that follow decision trees. They take a bunch of input and then follow a set of rules (yes partially governed by the insurance companies) and eventually arriving at a treatment. (I am a computer scientist so pardon the analogy) Armed with this view when it came time to go for second opinions I made the consult more of an interview of who I felt I can work with. Someone who would listened to me and had the experience to give me the confidence to do what is best for me and not to just keep his numbers up for the insurance company. This also included the doctor’s support staff, the front office and the PAs. I did meet one of those “end-all” doctors and never went back. How could he have my best care in mind when they don’t want to work with me or take into consideration of the work or opinions of other doctors. I don’t think those ‘end-all” doctors need to be forgiven, I think they need to loose their clients to better doctors who are able to listen to them and give much better care. It is not hard they just need to step down out of their privileged life. I have been friends and clients of many esteemed medical professionals so a “holier than thou” attitude is not a requirement to being a great doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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