Trimix Injections

[Guest guest]

Can anyone please give their experience with trimix recently. The good, the

bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects, dangers, etc. Any info

on the initial visit would be helpful too.

Thanks for any thoughts

[Guest guest]

If you go to my site at http://www.yananow.org/Links.html and

enter tri mix into the Site Search Engine and hit Search and you’ll see a

number of references to men who have used this medication – and you’ll

be able to mail them for more information. Try doing the same thing for bi mix

– you make get different men with different views.

All the best

Terry Herbert

I have no medical

qualifications but I was diagnosed in ‘96: and have learned a bit since

then.

My sites are at www.yananow.org and www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za

Dr

“Snuffy” Myers : " As a physician, I am painfully aware that most of

the decisions we make with regard to prostate cancer are made with inadequate

data "

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of risavalentine

Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011

4:20 PM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject:

Trimix Injections

Can anyone please give their experience with trimix

recently. The good, the bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects,

dangers, etc. Any info on the initial visit would be helpful too.

Thanks for any thoughts

[Guest guest]

The injections are not that bad once you

get past the thought of what you are doing. First the doctor orders the mix and

needles. I received mine in the mail a week later. Keep the mix in the

refrigerator. Then it is off to the doctor and bring everything. Depending

on how much other work you have had that brought you to this point you may be a

little more comfortable having other people handle your equipment. The PA

that helped me talked about the whole process using the needle and

pictures. Once that was done he went through the steps and injected

me. He then waited while I stood there for 20 minutes with my pants down

to see if what happens. They start you off with a small dose because they

don’t want you to last for more than the magic 4 hours. If you don’t

go down go to the emergency room and they will give you a shot to cause it to

go down. You then dial in the dose that you are going to need by

injecting yourself 2-3 times a week until you get an erection that you

are happy with. That first time, home alone trying to push the needle in

is tough. After a few times it is not too bad.

In order to prevent peronies or scaring

you need to change the injection site. You inject along the shaft on the

right or left side. It was very awkward for me doing it left handed into

the left side. I had to keep upping the dosage and never found one that

worked. My prostatectomy had very wide margins (I was a GS 9) and the

radiation didn’t help either. They can make the mix stronger but in

the end I am electing to go with an implant that will be installed latter this

month. Like Viagra the insurance companies can regulate your experience

by only paying for so much. There are no per usage fees on the

implant. For some people the Tri Mix will cause pain or

soreness. You can then try Bi Mix that doesn’t cause the soreness

for those.

If you have other questions you are

welcome to ask.

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of risavalentine

Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011

12:20 AM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject:

Trimix Injections

Can anyone please give their experience with trimix

recently. The good, the bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects,

dangers, etc. Any info on the initial visit would be helpful too.

Thanks for any thoughts

[Guest guest]

This is like turning " The Twins " into gangstas.

And thanks for any info that helps us restore some sense of our full life w our

spouses.

>

> The injections are not that bad once you get past the thought of what you

> are doing. First the doctor orders the mix and needles. I received mine in

> the mail a week later. Keep the mix in the refrigerator. Then it is off to

> the doctor and bring everything. Depending on how much other work you have

> had that brought you to this point you may be a little more comfortable

> having other people handle your equipment. The PA that helped me talked

> about the whole process using the needle and pictures. Once that was done

> he went through the steps and injected me. He then waited while I stood

> there for 20 minutes with my pants down to see if what happens. They start

> you off with a small dose because they don't want you to last for more than

> the magic 4 hours. If you don't go down go to the emergency room and they

> will give you a shot to cause it to go down. You then dial in the dose that

> you are going to need by injecting yourself 2-3 times a week until you get

> an erection that you are happy with. That first time, home alone trying to

> push the needle in is tough. After a few times it is not too bad.

>

>

>

> In order to prevent peronies or scaring you need to change the injection

> site. You inject along the shaft on the right or left side. It was very

> awkward for me doing it left handed into the left side. I had to keep

> upping the dosage and never found one that worked. My prostatectomy had

> very wide margins (I was a GS 9) and the radiation didn't help either. They

> can make the mix stronger but in the end I am electing to go with an implant

> that will be installed latter this month. Like Viagra the insurance

> companies can regulate your experience by only paying for so much. There are

> no per usage fees on the implant. For some people the Tri Mix will cause

> pain or soreness. You can then try Bi Mix that doesn't cause the soreness

> for those.

>

>

>

> If you have other questions you are welcome to ask.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: ProstateCancerSupport

> [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of risavalentine

> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:20 AM

> To: ProstateCancerSupport

> Subject: Trimix Injections

>

>

>

>

>

> Can anyone please give their experience with trimix recently. The good, the

> bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects, dangers, etc. Any info

> on the initial visit would be helpful too.

> Thanks for any thoughts

>

[Guest guest]

There are quite a few men using injectable erection drugs on the " Prostate

Cancer and Intimacy " (PCAI) list. To join, go to

www.prostatepointers.org

and go to " All mailing lists on Prostate Pointers " .

Unfortunately, that list doesn't have an archive, but you'll get lots of answers

to your question if you post it. There's a Wiki with extensive notes on

injection drugs and techniques.

I'm using bimix, not trimix, but the drugs are similar. They work independently

of the erectile nerves, so someone who had a non-nerve-sparing prostatectomy can

probably benefit.

I've been using bi-mix for three years. No bad effects, and good erections " on

demand " . I'm using a Palco auto-injector with standard diabetic syringes.

There's a good " white paper " on injections on the USTOO website:

http://www.ustoo.org/PDFs/Injection.pdf

I don't agree with all of it, but it's a good place to start.

If you have specific questions (which you probably do), don't be afraid to ask.

Embarrassed medicine is always bad medicine.

>

> Can anyone please give their experience with trimix recently. The good, the

bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects, dangers, etc. Any info

on the initial visit would be helpful too.

> Thanks for any thoughts

>

[Guest guest]

After trying Viagra (didn't work) and the vacuum pump (worked but no orgasm with

a rubber ring constricting my penis) I saw my urologist to try injections. In

his office, he injected me with bimix (likes it better) and had me wait for 15

minutes to see what developed- a usable erection that lasted for 30 plus

minutes. So he ordered the drug and several dozen syringes.

The mix whether bi or tri has to be filled by a compounding pharmacy. This is

one that takes the raw material and mixes it in the right proportions and fills

an ampule with it. Most corner pharmacies don't have this capability.

After I picked it up at the pharmacy, I gave it a try. I have never been

squeemish about this kind of thing, so I filled the syringe to the designated

level and injected myself. You inject from the left or right side half way up

and through the thickest part. You insert the needle 1/3 to 1/2 way through.

Within 5-10 minutes I was in business.

My wife didn't want any part of the injection process, but I understand some

couples make a sex game of it. Good for them.

The good news is that after using bimix from 6 mo after prostatectomy to about

three years afterwards, I gradually regained the ability to get a usable

erection naturally. The bigger problem is now orgasms. They aren't easy to come

by ;-)

[Guest guest]

I have been using trimix for about 9 months now and always get a usable erection with a little foreplay after about 20 minutes and it lasts 2 hours or more, so there's time for romance. I use 0.13 ccs. Less than that gives a weak erection, and much more gives one that is too strong and can be painful. I find that where you inject is important because if I get it to close to the base of the penis it hurts whereas if I get it half way up it's just like a flu injection in the arm, no big deal. Getting the right place isn't as easy as it might seem with a flacid penis, especially as the directions say to stretch it out before injecting. I have had no problems achieving orgasm. I tried the pump before and that wasn't satisfactory, and Viagra has not yet produced a satisfactory erection, though it does produce a weak one and they seem to be improving. I'm

hopeful that eventually I won't need tri-mix or Viagra. I had my surgery Jan.28, 2009. Until then I'll continue using both -- 50mg Viagra four days a week, and trimix two other days, with one day off -- in the hope they'll stimulate nerve recovery

Mike

Subject: Trimix InjectionsTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Saturday, December 3, 2011, 12:19 AM

Can anyone please give their experience with trimix recently. The good, the bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects, dangers, etc. Any info on the initial visit would be helpful too.Thanks for any thoughts------------------------------------There are just two rules for this group 1 No Spam 2 Be kind to othersPlease recognise that Prostate Cancerhas different guises and needs different levels of treatment and in some cases no treatment at all. Some men even with all options offered chose radical options that you would not choose. We only ask that people be informed before choice is made, we cannot and should not tell other members what to do, other than look at other options. Try to delete old material that is no longer applying when clicking replyTry to change the title if the content requires it

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Hi Risa,I have been injecting Tri-Mix for almost 12 months. Shortly after I began using Tri-Mix I posted the following message to a prostate cancer forum;******************************************************************************************December 2010Greetings, I had a robotic assisted RP in September 2007. Thanks to an experienced surgeon and early intervention, the nerve sparing procedure was, in my estimation, very successful. I have

previously reported on my recovery process and the fact that I was relatively pleased with restoration of sexual health in the 12 months following my procedure. During the past 24 months I have continued to be fairly well satisfied with my status but realized it could possibly be improved through the periodic use of one of the injectable drugs available for treatment of ED. This week I met with a well known

ED specialist in the Chicago region for consultation (I had met with him once in the past). My reason for meeting with him this week was to specifically request his assistance in obtaining/using an appropriate inejectable ED treatment drug. As I anticipated based on my previous experience, the consultation was excellent. While in his office we reviewed several options in a very deliberate and detailed way. With his guidance, I made the decision to proceed with a Trimix trial, After appropriate instruction and with his direct supervision I injected 5 units of Trimix in his office. The office injection

resulted in an erection within about 10 to 15 minutes that he rated (and I agreed) was about a 5 on a 10 point scale (50%). That was without any stimulation other than walking around in his examination room for a few minutes. It lasted for about 30 minutes. There was zero

discomfort associated with the erection and the self injection was a non-event. I realize before I say it that it may sound peculiar, but actually I found the injection and the sensation of the needle piercing my skin to be pleasurable. A new form of foreplay? I don't know, but I

was more excited than apprehensive and the steps associated with giving

myself the injection to get the results I wanted were not viewed negatively in any regard. Based on my office experience, it was suggested that for my next injection, to be given at home, I should use 8 to 10 units. I left his office and told him that I would report back my experience using the Trimix at home. This morning I sent him the following e-mail; Hi XXXXXXXX, I met with you in your office on Tuesday of this week. Wednesday evening I had a business dinner so I did not pick up my Trimix Rx until last night. When

I got home I re-read the information sheets you provided. I also read a

very good instructional guide that the pharmacist provided (he offered it after I asked him about storage temperature ranges for Trimix). Finally, I re-read the chapter(s) in Dr. Mulhall's book on injectables. Though I felt very well prepared and confident when I left your office, I found that reading the literature again, in a relaxed home environment, expanded my knowledge and reinforced some important steps that that you covered but I might have overlooked (like

injecting the same volume of air into the Trimix vial as one intends to

remove in liquid), I injected very close to 8 units shortly before retiring. The hypodermics provided by the pharmacy are 30 gauge, half inch, 100 unit syringes. The syringe barrel is very, very slender. I thought the syringe I used in your office was 5/16 inch but I

am not really sure. Anyway, I say very close to 8 units because the cylinder is graduated in markings ranging from 10 to 100 in 10 unit increments. Between the numbered markings there are hash marks denoting every two units. I have good vision and pretty good fine motor skills and I was careful so I am quite comfortable that I was very, very close to the 8 unit mark, but it could have been closer to 7.5. The injection process was no problem. I held pressure on the insertion site

for a full five minutes following the shot, at the end of which I could

already detect "growth". I joined my wife in bed about 10 minutes after administering the shot and was almost immediately rewarded

with an 80 - 90% erection that lasted, very adequately, for 45 minutes. With stimulation the quality of the erection continued to increase. It was by far the best erection experienced since before my surgery in September of 2007. The erection began to diminish at around the 45 minute mark and subsided quite naturally and comfortably over a time span of an additional 20 to 30 minutes. I would

characterize the entire experience as terrific. So would my wife. Santa can keep the Lionel train set. I have my holiday gift. Thanks and best regards, PS...I

did create a very simple spreadsheet which I will use to log my experiences for future reference if needed (and because I tend to be more detailed than necessary (smile)).*******************************************************************************************************It is now November of 2011. I "shoot" about four times per month. I can obtain and maintain an erection suitable for intercourse with oral meds, usually 20mg Cialis, but the intense and long lasting erection provided by the injection of Tr-mix is so pleasurable (for both of us) that I can not imagine cutting it out of our rotation.I have never had any problems. Injecting is a cinch. For overnight travel I have pre-filled a syringe and placed it in a hard case made for eyeglasses. I keep it cool while in transit but I am not extraordinarily careful in doing so. On every occasion, upon reaching our destination, it has performed as expected.Over the past year I have found that .10 CC is good. .20 CC is my upper limit that I have not

exceeded. .20 CC results in a very rigid erection for about 90 minutes with no discomfort. I have also found that the compounded Tri-mix I have used is as effective at the end of 5 months as it was the day it was compounded, though by the label it is suggested that it be discarded after 90 days. According to my MD and my pharmacist the drug does not become unsafe if it gets warmed or outdated it just loses potency.Please let me know if I can answer any specific question for you.Peace,Subject: Trimix InjectionsTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Saturday, December 3, 2011, 12:19 AM

Can anyone please give their experience with trimix recently. The good, the bad, whatever. Anything to be aware of, side effects, dangers, etc. Any info on the initial visit would be helpful too.

Thanks for any thoughts